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Kamala is on vid saying she'd do forced gun buy back like in Aust if no congress act in 1rst 100d

Author: BaronVonZemo (59942 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:32 am on Sep 11, 2024
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So then last night she claims it is a lie that Trump said that she would do so. She changed the words to "lets stop this lie that anyone is going to take your guns away"......is she lying or is she parsing words because nobody is going to "take them" because you will be paid for them - forcibly and at the govt set price. Is she trying to claim that this is not "taking"?!
And the media moderators said nothing.
And then she says, "I'm a gun owner....well of course she is....she is a liberal and the rules are for thee and not me (Liberalism Rule #2). She, of course, has the Secret Service around her with guns after she turns her gun in.

The lies are astounding. The complicity of the main stream media is more so. Truly as bad or worse than Pravda.


Link: https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1818375227258421563

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Thread Level: 2

good, hope she gets them all; not sure I agree about gov't paying for them though

Author: ChicagoIrish (7747 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:00 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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just take them, don't buy them back

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I wasn't posting about buyback itself, but her blatant lie and the moderators complicity.- but you

Author: BaronVonZemo (59942 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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just confirmed exactly what I posted......that you liberals believe that you know better than others and thus the ends justify the means. Liberalism Rule #2.
I'll mark you down as "Yes she lied to the voters, but it's ok because I want it to happen".


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You're the first person I think guns should be taken from

Author: ChicagoIrish (7747 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:26 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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lots of red flags.

and I don't mean "you conservatives," I mean you, BaronVonZemo specifically.


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I've never even bought a gun & could never use it anyways. I see you're still avoiding KH's lies.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59942 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:34 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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Sorry to not bite on your silly ad hominem. You couldn't have confirmed my assertion about you and liberals (Dem Party and MSM propaganda arm) any more if you tried.

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yes I am avoiding her lies

Author: ChicagoIrish (7747 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:53 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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this came up at our last meeting as an agenda item. all the main stream media decision makers were there.

I wasn't in executive session but from what I hear, the upcoming propaganda rollout is going to be really great. should be fun.

and I never called you a hominem. I respect all orientations


Thread Level: 7

You live and breathe the Rules of Liberalism, and you've given me insight into another - thanks!

Author: BaronVonZemo (59942 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:38 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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When failure or bad behavior is completely undeniable, Liberals make themselves feel better by distancing themselves from their complicity. Salve for a guilty conscience.

By the way,
Liberalism Rule #1: Accuse others of that which you yourself are/do.
The gun violence risk accusation you threw out is quite telling.


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your arguments are impeccable. I've decided to become a conservative now.

Author: ChicagoIrish (7747 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:41 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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where do I sign up for the brain worms?

Thread Level: 9

The Buffet at the Golden Corral.

Author: iairishcheeks (27172 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:41 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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Thread Level: 9

So mean! Keep away from the guns! (And thanks again for the insight). You get the last word...

Author: BaronVonZemo (59942 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:53 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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...I know how important is for you to distance yourself from this. Snark is an old go to.

Thread Level: 3

Stupid idea.

Author: PaND (2720 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 2:22 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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Guess you never heard of the Second Amendment.

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Especially since the Australian buyback program did NOT lead to decrease in firearm related deaths

Author: BaronVonZemo (59942 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:22 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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....and yeah, I have listened to some extensive lectures on the topic from strong anti gun advocates who wanted badly to find this result, but were honest enough to present the data.

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The Australian NFA (Buy Back Program) was instituted primarily as a response to Mass Shootings...

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:31 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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...and since 1996 it has worked...here is the attached RAND Report conclusion...
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The strongest evidence is consistent with the claim that the NFA caused reductions in mass shootings, because no mass shootings occurred in Australia for 23 years after it was adopted (until the 2019 Darwin shooting). There is also consistent evidence that rates of firearm suicides decreased after the NFA and that suicide reductions were greater in regions where more guns were turned in.
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Why does Baron insist on Making Stuff Up?...has he paid for a lifetime exemption from Confession at his local parish?


Link: https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/1996-national-firearms-agreement.html

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nah

Author: ChicagoIrish (7747 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:38 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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You misunderstand.

I'm not suggesting she take them from any well-regulated militias. Just idiots.


Thread Level: 5

Define "idiots" for the upcoming unconstitutional executive order.

Author: NedoftheHill (44678 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:59 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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So you are saying that you own guns?

Author: PaND (2720 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 5:18 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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Makes sense.

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If you pick and choose from decades of videos, you can really whip the stupids into a frenzy

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:56 am on Sep 11, 2024
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There will be no “forced gun buy-back.”

But you know this. Reality is not the point.


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No silly. Her video is from last month saying it and then last night.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59942 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:18 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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I agree, anyone who believes a word she says is a "stupid".

Author: iairishcheeks (27172 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:19 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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Apparently 94 thinks I shouldn't "pick & choose" from videos spanning the vastness of a month's time

Author: BaronVonZemo (59942 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:19 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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He wants to make sure Dems can flip-flop. He wouldn't make same argument for Reps.

Author: NedoftheHill (44678 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:01 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

Did she say it or not? Cut out the bullshit

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:58 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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Angrier person: Trump, Coley, or Hensou?

Author: conorlarkin (21016 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:06 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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U are more than welcome to jump in and answer

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:14 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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Whata ya got?

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I’m sure that will get fact checked during next debate.

Author: LanceManion (7940 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:26 am on Sep 11, 2024
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Apparently if you put quotes around a word, it has an opposite meaning.

Author: NedoftheHill (44678 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:12 am on Sep 11, 2024
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So, maybe her entire debate was in air quotes that she made off screen.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Looks as though you're "Peeking" too, Ned...Australia's Gun "Buy Back" Program is not a "Seizure"...

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:21 am on Sep 11, 2024
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it's "Voluntary"...

Meanwhile, DJT can't boast enough about how he won't do anything to get guns out of the hands of all those crazy people who shoot up kids in schools.


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Gun purchase programs are great for private gun buyers.

Author: NedoftheHill (44678 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:55 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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If the government offers to pay $250 per gun, private buyers stand outside the gun purchase location and pay $300 for the good ones.

Then, the government gets a pile of non-operational, rusted out, antique "guns" for $250 each.

That works well as a government program because Tyrone tax dollars end up effectively subsidizing private gun sales...kind of like you wanting plumber tax dollars to subsidize racial studies majors.

And, in blue cities, Tyrone tax dollars subsidize straw purchasers (they get to buy $800+ guns for $300 each), which means more guns on the streets, so more urbanites are killed, which means Tyrone can tell those urbanites they need to vote for his party to get guns off the streets...and the leftist-blood-politics cycle continues, and you kill people to maintain political control.

All this falls in the "what could possibly go wrong" category. But, you like to lie to your own party, so this works for you.

[I don't usually read your posts. Just happened to see you lying in your post header before I logged in. So, why did you put "voluntary" in quotes. Did you mean "involuntary?"]


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 5

Glad you responded...my 'bite' is no worse than anyone else's on this Forum...let's keep it up...

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:34 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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now, as to the issue of reducing gun violence...the attached article, as well as the one I posted earlier, show that in Australia there is a focus on certain firearms that should be voluntarily turned in...and subsequently destroyed...not re-sold.

Again...all "Voluntary"...Note: the quotation marks are for emphasis and attention so as to counter the misinformation by Baron implying that Australia (and hence KH) "Forcibly" takes firearms away from citizens...not happening...any more than "Aborting" newborns.


Link: https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/1996-national-firearms-agreement.html

Thread Level: 6

You don't have a bad bite. You just don't debate honestly.

Author: NedoftheHill (44678 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:56 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Australia's "Voluntary" Gun Buy Back Program has been a success, and the results in gun related

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:52 am on Sep 11, 2024
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homicides and suicides justifies it.

Leave it to Baron to 'Misstate' the facts again...and again...while promoting Trump who boasts about doing NOTHING to reduce gun violence here in our own country...talk about "Weirdness".


Link: https://www.wa.gov.au/government/media-statements/Cook-Labor-Government/Cook-Government-voluntary-gun-buyback-success-20240911#:~:text=Since%20the%20buyback%20commenced%2C%20the,of%20in%20the%20coming%20weeks.

Thread Level: 2

Only Trump was fact checked. The moderators were an embarrassment as so called "journalists".

Author: irishsmashmouth (3294 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2010)

Posted at 10:52 am on Sep 11, 2024
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The silence of the libs is deafening.

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 10:37 am on Sep 11, 2024
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Some of us still work for a living.

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:57 am on Sep 11, 2024
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Hard to remember what that’s like, I guess.

Thread Level: 4

Then Tulane is getting hosed, because you

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:02 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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waste alot of time on this site

Thread Level: 4

What kind of miserable existence must you have if you wear Rockports?

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:14 pm on Sep 11, 2024
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I don't have to work for a living anymore. But I do because I enjoy it.

Thread Level: 3

It's hard to hear when you have your hands over your ears...;-)

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:14 am on Sep 11, 2024
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This is what she said last night. But lies are ok to them because of Liberalism Rule #3

Author: BaronVonZemo (59942 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:38 am on Sep 11, 2024
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The ends justify the means.

BaronVonZemo's Rules of Liberalism:

Liberalism Rule #1 - accuse others of that which you are/do.
Liberalism Rule #2 - the rules apply to thee and not me
Liberalism Rule #3 - We know what is best, thus the ends justify the means.
Liberalism Rule #4 - We believe ourselves to be smarter thus, we cannot admit that we are wrong.
i. Admitting mistakes undermines the premise of being smarter, ergo self correction is not possible.
Liberalism Rule #5 - What didn’t work last time, will work next time (see 4 i.)
Liberalism Rule #6 - When we lose, change the rules.
i Whenever convenient, change the definition to suit our goal.
Liberalism Rule #7 - Appeasement is the best deterrent to foreign conflict.
Liberalism Rule #8 - TotallyDifferentism - when we do something that we don’t like others doing, it is always “totally different”.
Liberalism Rule #9 - Equity through inequity (any difference must be equalized by pulling down the
unaffected party. Vengeance is preferable).
Liberalism Rule #10 - We support our representative speaking regardless of the truth (in contrast to
conservatives who support the truth regardless of the representative speaking it).
Liberalism Rule #11 - We vote on personality over policy.
Liberalism Rule #12 - Genetics are selective. We believe that sexuality and guilt are genetic, but gender is not. Scientific proof is not required.
Liberalism Rule #13 - Do SOMETHING! When a crisis happens, do SOMETHING! It doesn't have to have to work, but it must: a) make us feel better which is more important than actually solving the crisis, and b) advance the liberal agenda.
Liberalism Rule #14 -"You’ll have to show us a lot more than rock solid, irrefutable evidence”.
Liberalism Rule #15 - There are no universal truths. The truth changes to fit our needs.
Liberalism Rule #16 - The Expert Threshold. If a false narrative has enough “experts” backing it, it becomes truth regardless of evidence to the contrary. “Experts” are defined as those who support the narrative, and they can be conjured if necessary (because of Liberalism Rule #3).
Rule #17 - Charity ends at home. It is accomplished through the government with other people’s money


Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/harris-surprises-social-media-saying-shes-gun-owner

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