Methinks we have some of those “anti vax hicks” hiding out among the Democrat lawmakers.
We know they are liberal, and we know that liberals believe that the rules apply to others, but not themselves.
Tell me Chris, you said that you “believe in science”. But that doesn’t seem to include math. It didn’t include the statistical improbability of 98+% Dem vote count in Wayne County after hours on election after the overseers were sent home and the previous AA Dem vote rate had been much less all night throughout the rest of the state.
Does the math here ring any warning bells up there in your “nonhick” noggin that it looks like your own people …..your leaders themselves…didn’t all get the vaccine?
and concern to the 'Delta variant', which has shown to be much more transmissible than the "Wild Type" original version...then start shouting at all the politicians who are telling people not to get vaccinated.
This is troubling news for the 171 million Americans not yet vaccinated...yet, somewhat comforting to those who have been (i.e. only mild symptoms, if any).
Link: https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07/17/texas-democrats-coronavirus/
would clear this up quickly. You can understand why nobody accepts anything simply reported anymore given the death of journalism and all (you know, like the WH press Corp nonstop attacks of Trump while asking Biden what his favorite ice cream flavor is).
In this time of trying to gain trust in order to increase vaccination rates, it seems a simple gesture…..unless….
vaccinated...I don't have a problem with verifying that assertion...in fact I join you in insisting upon it due to the implications you raise...and I don't mean 'lying'...I'm worried that the "R naught" factor may be very large with the Delta variant, and you as a physician should be as well. Frankly, from a 'macro' perspective, I'm hoping they were lying about being "fully vaccinated"...but I doubt it, and the 171 million unvaccinated Americans have a huge stake in this information.
As regards Press treatment of Trump, I tried to make my opinion clear in that "Confessional" parody...the man is contemptible by virtually any measure...a clear and present danger to our democracy...and one who deserved even more exposure by that same Press. If you want to defend him, I'll be happy to refute each and every claim you make...the most recent being the claim that he "championed" the development of the COVID vaccines, as well as the assertion that Biden hasn't done all he could to get needles in arms of all Americans. (see my recent post(s)).
The story being from the local Tx newspaper doesn’t make it any more reliable. It just gives the appearance of NOT being the WaPo or NYT with their proven agendas.
Why haven’t you voiced any criticism about these morons by the way? And why wouldn’t you support a call for them to reveal there vaccine record (it could only be political pressure/publicity pressure - not even forced as many Dems already advocate)?
certainly believe they were lying...but a bunch of 'snowflake' Dems who are easily frightened into getting vaccinated and wearing masks if they weren't?...I don't think so...which brings me back to the concern regarding the transmissibility of the 'Delta variant'...is there any chance that you are even the least bit concerned that it is 'devilish' enough to infect already vaccinated people?
From all I've heard, the TX legislators followed CDC guidelines, so there's no reason to criticize them for taking a flight together and not wearing masks...I gather with other fully vaccinated folks and don't wear a mask in those situations...and I bet you do, too....am I right?
BTW, the CDC never said a fully vaccinated person couldn't get infected, since the vaccines are "only" 95% effective (with data from the original "Wild Type" virus)...we are in the process of learning what living with the 'Delta variant' is like...don't be shocked if we end up having to wear masks more often in the future...I hope not, but you never know...sure would help if Trump and his acolytes started "Pleading" with the MAGA crowd to get vaccinated...would really help out everyone...themselves included...don't you think?
people to get vaccinated and mutual distrust, the best way to overcome the problem is with honesty and transparency. These numbers are suspicious of more "The rules are for thee, but not me"...ie..the Dem lawmakers are criticizing others for not getting vaccinated when the math would suggest that some of them are actually not getting it either. Offering their records to the public would help greatly with the cause, and remove all doubt. in fact, the only reason that I can think of that the Dem lawmakers WOULDN'T release their COVID vaccine record is if they didn't get it.
3) The delta variant has been studied and it appears that both of the two shot vaccines have excellent and near equivalent efficacy. The J&J vaccine is less efficacious but still moderately protective....this is another reason to release their personal vaccination records.
4) The two shot vaccinated people do NOT need to wear masks in the future unless liberals want to take their freedom away.
To review:
Each of the 3 FDA approved vaccines were tested on about 110,000 people in 3 different countries - Moderna - US, Pfizer - Israel, and J&J - South Africa where several of the variants were very prevalent
The vaccines are 95% efficaious which means that 5% will still end up getting COVID down the road, but the effects are markedly mitigated. In most cases, the infection will be asymptomatic and less will have mild symptoms only, with a few rare cases like PB's friend requiring hospitalization.
But out of the 330,000 people who underwent the trial around the world, there were ZERO deaths.
To promote shutdown after vaccination, we may as well also shut down all car travel, plane travel, boat travel, and all events that might give regular flu exposure since all of those would pose a higher mathematical risk of death.
Our vaccine numbers now along with the herd immunity do NOT merit another shutdown or masks for all. The masks are a political football now - a signal of liberalism....and a placebo to the vaccinated.
If you want to improve vaccinations, start telling the truth, release the vax info on these idiots, and start living by the rules that everyone else has to live by (If you are Michigan's governor, don't sneak yourself and staff off to Florida while shutting everyone else down, and if your Dem lawmaker expecting other people to wear masks on a plane, do it yourself). Start admitting that BLM protests spread COVID the same as Trump Rallies or Cuban Freedom Rallies.
And oh yeah, show enough trust in the vaccine efficacy to take off your mask...otherwise, why would anyone else trust you to get the vaccine?
for the TX Dems...I'm with you...have someone from WaPo or the NYT ask them if they were all fully vaccinated prior to 'leaving on a jet plane' (love that song)...everyone should follow the CDC guidelines.
WRT the Delta Variant, I haven't heard anything about 'How much more' transmissible it is and if the efficacy of the vaccines has changed at all...i.e. breaking through more easily....I'll be seeing our ID/ICU Docs this weekend and ask them what they've seen/heard and get back to you (all). Right now, I agree with you that 5 cases out of 50 or so is unexpected, so you're right to question it, but it's a little early to form conclusions.
All the numbers you're posting about the vaccines are for the "Wild Type" and not the Delta Variant...I suspect, from all the comments being bandied about, that there are differences...again, I'll share what I hear from folks who are truly 'on the front lines'.
49% vaccination doesn't cut it...even when including COVID survivors (~34M), we are only at the 59% level...not 70-80% as needed (pre-Delta variant)...In the health interests of the ~170M unvaccinated Americans, we just might see more restrictions moving forward...just my opinion.
Let's keep our eyes on the goal...get "everyone" vaccinated...write letters to ALL congressmen/women go public in no uncertain terms advocating for shots...and....use Social Media to beg Trump to join in...biggest difference maker IMO. The TX Dems are a 'non-issue' in the larger scheme of things.
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I mean, we have seen them together and maskless on a plane flight. What moron would do that without being vaccinated?
……yes, of those 1 in 20, very few will be anything but mild symptoms.
But the fact they turned positive at the rate they did (so far - it may be more) makes it far more likely that we have some politicians who are liars rather than a markedly different recurrence rate from the intensely studied vaccine rates already known.
If they would just voluntarily show us their vaccine cards, it would defuse the entire story, wouldn’t it?
I cannot understand how a group of decently educated highly politicized Dems would not be vaccinated.
Our bigger problems involve minorities, the homeless, illegals and the paraoid.
Link: https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-07-16/why-many-black-hispanic-americans-distrust-covid-vaccines
Charlotte, Philly, Syracuse, Hawaii, Nashville... every single flight I get the speech.
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