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PBS has a really good new doc about the 1919 Black Sox Scandal.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 3:26 pm on Oct 9, 2024
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Some highlights:

--Arnold Rothstein promised to pay the 8 players $100,000 in all, to throw the World Series; however, they only received an estimated $30,000-$40,000.

--Rothstein made $350,000 on the Series, which is over $6M in today's money.

--The 8 players were eventually acquitted, since the case turned on proving their "intent", which was too hard to prove.

--However, the next day, the new MLB Commissioner, Kenesaw Mountain Landis, banned them all for life from playing baseball.

--The doc ends with a look at the mythical "Shoeless Joe" Jackson and ends by saying plaintively, "Say, it ain't so, Joe!"


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Thread Level: 2

Eight Men Out was a very good movie about the Black Sox.

Author: Hibakusha (4668 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:09 pm on Oct 9, 2024
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It was and the book is specifically mentioned in the documentary.

Author: Frank L (64749 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 6:37 pm on Oct 9, 2024
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The documentary claims that the book painted Comiskey as the villain and is less judgmental of his role. I think he deserves some of the blame for being such a cheap bastard that the players hated him enough to do this, but it doesn’t excuse or vindicate them. They decided to throw the Series and betray their team, teammates, city, and the game. He didn’t. A fascinating, sordid tale.

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Did PBS manage to get through a documentary that doesn't mention climate change or Jan 6?

Author: ELP (9603 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 5:06 pm on Oct 9, 2024
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Did Shoeless Joe take the money but played lights out anyway? He committed no errors. Hit .375 for the series with 12 hits. How deeply was he even involved? I believe he did receive some money but said he was never involved in any meetings or discussions about the plan. MLB needs to revisit the whole ordeal and really take another indepth look at Shoeless Joe's involvement if they can take their focus away for two seconds from diversity, equity and trans Nuns. .

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The doc said that although Shoeless Joe hit .375, he didn't come through in the clutch situations.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 7:38 pm on Oct 9, 2024
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Isn't that kind of second guessing? We can do the same with Ruth, Aaron, or Judge.

Author: ELP (9603 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 8:21 pm on Oct 9, 2024
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Or Bryce Harper this NLDS.

Author: Frank L (64749 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:09 pm on Oct 9, 2024
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If you have seen the movie it is pretty sad for those who were trying their hardest. Could you

Author: THEISMANCARR (17217 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 4:56 pm on Oct 9, 2024
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imagine being banned?!

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Gambling was a sad chapter in Pete Rose's life, too.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 5:02 pm on Oct 9, 2024
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