Bid/Harris DOJ sues to block illegals removal from voting lists. Naw, D's don't cheat w/ voter fraud
I mean....it is just pure coincidence that they violate our laws to flood the country and then try to prevent these noncitizens from being purged from voter lists.
AND HOW DID THESE NONCITIZENS GET ON TO THE VOTER ROLLS TO BEGIN WITH? Well, that is also just another amazing "convenient incompetence" that accidentally happened when Dem sponsored volunteers "accidentally" enrolled them which just happened to work in the D's favor yet again (every time these mistakes work in the Dems favor, isn't it amazing?).
But, NOOOOOO! There is no evidence of voter fraud in the last election or this election (that the Biden/Harris DOJ will accept anyways). How could anyone get the idea that Dems are cheating with voter fraud? Can't imagine.
Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-sues-virginia-allegedly-purging-noncitizens-voting-rolls-close-election
Replies to: Bid/Harris DOJ sues to block illegals removal from voting lists. Naw, D's don't cheat w/ voter fraud
How did 6,000 non-citizens register to vote in the first place?
There are undoubtedly hundreds of thousands of non-citizens and illegal aliens registered to vote nationwide.
Paid Dem border workers“accidentally”registered them. And libs act offended when election questioned
Heh.
They didn't, Mark...had you done some simple research, in a few minutes you'd understand what's
actually going on and not have to expose your lack of knowledge on this subject...here's an excerpt from the linked article...
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Mitchell's memo about the risk of noncitizen voting touches on two of those things. Migrant encounters at the southern border hit an all-time high in December, and the document focuses mostly on the implementation of a 1993 law, the National Voter Registration Act, that made registering to vote easier.
The NVRA does not require proof of U.S. citizenship for people to register to vote, only that potential voters fill out a form and attest under penalty of perjury that they are citizens. A federal voting law passed in 2002 also required applicants to provide a unique identification number to register, like a driver's license or Social Security number, which election officials say effectively serves as a citizenship check since both of those forms of ID involve the government checking whether someone is a citizen or not.
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Relax...there is no problem...except for Republicans trying to disenfranchise U.S. citizens' voting rights.
Link: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/13/1238102501/noncitizen-voting-immigration-conspiracy-theory
It is a righteous and peaceful attempt to steal the election
Not like when Trump and The Russians attempted a violent insurrection that could have killed millions of shivering
Democrats.
Be fair.
They also sued to prevent TX from closing the border.
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Threat to democracy to let non-citizens vote.
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Threat to Democracy to keep citizens from voting....
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Thankfully, the GOP is there to protect the full power of the citizen's vote.
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Not true...so long as the voter rolls are not purged any illegal votes can be found in a recount...
if the rolls are purged before the election...previously illegal voters who are now U.S. citizens would be denied their voting rights, and that's what Anti-Democracy Republican Governor Youngkin is trying to accomplish.
You're one despicable hombre...
That's ridiculous. The GOP is not trying to purge US citizens from the voter rolls.
The GOP wants correct voter rolls. You want incorrect voter rolls. I think we all know why. You have the same respect for voting integrity that you have for border integrity.
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You're intelligent enough to understand the logic...and the facts I presented...real U.S. citizens
who were undocumented when the voter rolls were last created would have their voting rights taken away once they get purged. the article cites solid evidence that many would be affected. Also...the likelihood of an undocumented immigrant trying to vote is extremely rare...YET, even if they did, with those un-purged rolls, a recount in a close election would detect them with a hand count...which is how - from prior experience - we know the chances are so rare.
Act like a thinking American and admit the malicious attempts by MAGAs...don't promote anti-democratic schemes.
You want incorrect voting rolls, open borders, & oppose voter ID checks. That leads to voter fraud.
I think the voter rolls should be as correct as possible, and i support voter ID checks, because i think the integrity of the vote is important.
Each of us respects vote integrity the same as we respect border integrity. I just value both much more highly than you do. I value them both highly because they create trusted, stable government and society regardless of who wins.
You put minimal value on both because both make it harder for Democrats to gain and hold power.
Stick to the facts presented...purging rolls that have not been updated to reflect the citizenship
of formerly undocumented immigrants denies them their Constitutional rights...and any illegal attempts at voting are easily detected and remedied through a search of those rolls.
The only proper decision is to NOT purge the rolls before they have been updated...note that the courts have already upheld such a decision. You have to know this, and therefore it casts a very poor light on your ethics...along with the perpetrators of such anti-democracy efforts to gain political power.
Says "stick to the facts," then makes shit up. We know where you stand.
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I'm not making these real world facts up, Ned...read what's actually going on outside of your
hypothesized existence.
...here's one excerpt...
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Texas
Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican, announced last month that an ongoing, yearslong review of voter rolls in Texas, which has nearly 18 million voters, had identified more than 6,500 “potential” noncitizens on the voter rolls. Of those, less than 2,000 have a voter history. He referred the latter to the state attorney general’s office “for investigation and potential legal action,” but no one has been accused of voting illegally.
In 2019, a review of voter rolls in the state seemed to suggest 95,000 noncitizens were on the rolls. But a closer look told a different story, according to a Texas Tribune report at the time. Texas used an old list of people who at one time had told the state they were noncitizens, but it turned out that many of those people had become citizens. Texas agreed to a court settlement to end the review.
More recently, there have been claims that the number of people registering to vote in several states has increased. Texas Secretary of State Jane Nelson, a Republican, issued a statement in April refuting that claim and pointing out that Texans must provide either a driver’s license number or Social Security number to register to vote.
“We know that this system that we have in place is effective,” Becker told me. “States have routinely done checks for noncitizens in just the last couple of years. They found literally zero noncitizens to cast a vote. Even Texas had found only 0.03% possible noncitizens. And based on previous activity in the last few years, it’s likely that every single one of those had been recently naturalized.”
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You need to stop "Making Stuff Up"...our elections are conducted fairly, and the review of the 2020 election proves it.
Link: https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/12/politics/undocumented-immigrants-voting-what-matters/index.html
Bottom line, you want incorrect voter rolls. Greg Abbott disagrees with you.
People are not barred from registering to vote. If they become naturalized citizens, then they can check the rolls. It is an easy process. The fact that they were on the rolls as non-citizens should be a concern to you, but apparently it is not.
"Texas settles lawsuit, agrees to $450K payment after Latino group accuses state of intimidating
voters"...that's the Bottom Line, Ned...Texas Republicans had to admit to their politically biased actions.
...you're intelligent enough to see it, but ethically intransigent in your pursuit of ill-gotten power.
Link: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/29/politics/texas-citizen-voter-citizenship-settlement/index.html
That doesn't apply to this discussion. We are talking about the new effort.
Query: Do you support removal of non-citizens from the voting rolls....and stopping practices that allowed them to get on the rolls in the first place?
Just examples from multiple states...the fact of the matter, as shown with evidence from Texas, is
that non-citizen voting is exceedingly rare (I note that "Rarity" is an important measure for you in other issues) and purging rolls with significant numbers of actual citizens denies them their hard fought rights (i.e. going through the lengthy process to become citizens)...and given the easy remedy of a recount in the case of a close elections obviates the need for purging such rolls so close to an election.
That's why such schemes fail when challenged in court...just as these "New Efforts" will ;-).
Why do you support such anti-democratic behavior?...what's in it for you?
Confidence in our elections. Rolls should be constantly audited. No legit reason not to.
My view is pro-democracy. Protect the vote.
Voter Rolls are regularly scrutinized...but not within 90 days of an election...this is a clear
attempt to deny voting rights, as described to you more than once, including an exemplary court case...but then that appears to be of no concern to you...nonetheless, the documented truth is now out in the open and easy enough to toss back at you ;-)
Wrong! This has already begun in Georgia, hence the ruling for Kemp to keep
election officials in place with the sudden authority to assess votes they deem suspicious. The fact that has been ordered by the courts through the wishes of the GOP it has a deterrent aspect on would be voters in Georgia even before November 5.
Correct voter rolls would not deter me from voting. Would they deter you?
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It's clear you don't understand the implications of the ruling in Georgia.
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I just asked a question. You could answer it. It is an easy question.
If you want to make a further point, feel free.
Surprise - You don't understand the implications of the ruling in Georgia, is the answer to your Q.
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That's your added point, not an answer to my question. I understand why you don't want to answer.
Of course it wouldn't deter you. The next question is, why do you think it would deter others? Why do you think so little of them?
[[Apparently my phone doesn't think the word "deter" exists...keeps changing it to "determine." WTH?]]
It's really very sad you always post as a buffoon.
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More "Made Up" Misinformation from Baron...here's what the suit is all about...
...from the attached article...
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According to the Justice Department, some of the people identified as noncitizens have U.S. citizenship, leading to some voter registrations being canceled unnecessarily.
"The Commonwealth’s unlawful actions here have likely confused, deterred, and removed U.S. citizens who are fully eligible to vote —the very scenario that Congress tried to prevent when it enacted the Quiet Period Provision," the DOJ said in its suit, referring to the purging of voter rolls within 90 days of Election Day.
During a previous effort to purge voter rolls of noncitizens in Virginia's Prince William County, which took place before July, 43 of the 162 people identified as noncitizens were U.S. citizens, according to the Justice Department's lawsuit.
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Governor Youngkin knows there are legal U.S. citizens on that voter roll, and non-citizens would be ID'd on any recount...he doesn't care...just wants to make sure no potential Democrat gets to vote.
The odds are Baron has no clue, but if it even sounds anti-Dem, he's all in.
Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/justice-department-sues-virginia-voter-rolls-election-day-rcna175117