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But there is no joy in Mudville…

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 5:27 am on Oct 17, 2024
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Where was Biden’s Easter Buddy when Kamala needed him?

I’m still not voting for Trump… but I’m kinda relieved not to have to listen to that Hillary wannabe for four years


Link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13968765/kamala-harris-bret-baie-fox-news-interview.html

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Thread Level: 2

Dems edited clips to falsely make it look better & simply lie that she did well. They lie about

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:44 am on Oct 17, 2024
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everything…this is no different.

They blame Trump for their border disaster, they blame Trump for their Afghanistan debacle, they blame Trump for their crime, they blame Trump for their bungling that allowed the Ukraine invasion.
They even blame Trump for their inflation which is they have pivoted away from calling “transitory” after they could no longer make that sell.

Who wants a leader that won’t be accountable accountable? Who wants a leader who needs handlers to interrupt an interview to protect her from herself?


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You trust the word of a man who works for a media company that still refuses to admit

Author: TyroneIrish (20597 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:10 am on Oct 17, 2024
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that it knowingly lied to its viewers?...

You think that BB was being controlled by the Harris campaign and not his program director/producers?...after doing his best to talk over her throughout the interview?

As for KH...she answered all his questions without ever calling him names, or accusing him of being "Nasty" for asking them....and...perhaps surprising to you, letting the American public know the truth about the man you won't vote for. You should be pleased with her performance, which showed she has the courage to face a difficult challenge...whereas, her opponent will only answer questions in an environment stacked with his supporters...i.e. Weakness Personified.

Trump represents the worst in America...


Thread Level: 3

She did not answer questions, was more words salad.

Author: PaND (2726 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 8:27 am on Oct 17, 2024
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She was terrible as expected.

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The goal was to reverse the momentum. I feel she failed miserably.

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:18 am on Oct 17, 2024
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She should have just kept pumping out anti-Trump ads.

AND... This whole Kamala/Rogan dance has got to be pure spin> If she can’t do 15 mins on Bret Baier she ain’t doing 2 hours plus w Rogan, an open ended discussion where she is forced to provide long form answers to everything from the border crisis to her workout to her age limit for trans surgery on children.


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She showed up late on purpose & her people needed it the second she couldn't filibuster the question

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:25 pm on Oct 17, 2024
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In spite of Baier's attempt from the get-go to keep Harris from being able to respond, she kept her

Author: TyroneIrish (20597 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:35 am on Oct 17, 2024
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cool and clearly pointed out the fact that on DAY 1, the Biden/Harris admin had prepared legislation to fix BB's #1 question...our Border and Immigration problems.. She also correctly pointed out that once their admin managed to hammer out a bipartisan deal...Trump killed it...even though he himself had called for Congressional action to FINALLY solve the problem in 2019.

Kamala Harris also pointed out that Trump also allowed the law to stand which provides gender health services for incarcerated criminals...including treatment of gender issues...and as for your constant and misinformed claim regarding surgery on children, I've shown you multiple times...with data...that the standard policy is to only perform surgeries on adults...and even then the occurrences are rare..

IMO, Kamala Harris is getting stronger every day...and Trump is getting weaker...

This is the easiest call there has ever been for selecting a President...HARRIS by miles in every category...and I invite you to challenge me on any of them.


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Compare how she came across in a hostile environment with how Dr. Demento does.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:48 am on Oct 17, 2024
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It won’t move the needle much but she went toe to toe, made her points and didn’t make an ass out of herself like Orange does in a hostile atmosphere.

Thread Level: 5

Not true. On Day 1, it was an amnesty bill for the 11M or so already here. It was not a border bill.

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:48 am on Oct 17, 2024
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The Dems controlled the majority then with house and senate and never it brought it up. Baier had to interject because he had limited time and a bunch of questions and she was pulling a John Kerry with her rambling on about everything other than answering the question. His specific point was in the in between, millions of illegals had poured in. People have been killed due to such. Drugs have poured in. Crime related to such. His specific question was "do you regret undoing the Trump border policies at that time?" It's a fair question and she didn't answer, she deflected, and blamed Trump for everything. She wouldn't even answer the question about giving an estimate as to how many illegals have been released into the US. She's a fraud and you all are pissed that she finally sat down with a journalist that asked tough questions and pressed her on issues compared to her getting her ass kissed on the liberal news networks that are trying to get her elected.

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I've linked the Bill (H.R. 1177) announced on 1/21/21...and formally introduced on 2/18/21...

Author: TyroneIrish (20597 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:08 pm on Oct 17, 2024
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then, after much debate a bipartisan Senate Bill was approved in late 2023...then immediately torpedoed by Trump...the man responsible for "Keeping the Border Open".

Link: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1177/text

Thread Level: 7

So why didn't the Dems pass it? They controlled the house and senate? You and the Dems refuse to

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:26 pm on Oct 17, 2024
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admit that reversing the Trump policies caused a huge problem in the country. Once it was apparent the southern border was being flooded with illegals, the Biden/Harris admin could have easily reinstated the Trump policies, but they didn't because it would be admitting the Dems were wrong and the Trump policies were working. Then, after lying to the American public with the help of their complicit media marketing arm not really covering and reporting on the problem at the southern border, they continued to say the border was secure for years. It was only during an election year since the Dems know this is a problem for them, they act like they care. Total bs. You have to learn to stop blaming Trump for everything. He's not in office and hasn't been for close to 4 years. The Biden/Harris administration is responsible as they are in office. Harris is just like Obama with same Dem playbook. Obama was in office for 8 years and took no accountability for anything. He blamed Bush 2 for everything for 8 years. 80% of the American public feel the country is heading in the WRONG direction. Who has been in charge for the last near 4 years?? Yes, the Biden/Harris administration. Own it!!! It's also ok to admit your party messed up if you want to call it that because in my own opinion, they didn't care what was happening and wanted it, otherwise if they truly cared, they would have reversed course and stopped the problem. No party is perfect, not even yours!!

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All you had to do was Google "History of H.R. 1177"...you didn't, so I did...

Author: TyroneIrish (20597 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:30 pm on Oct 17, 2024
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...here's the excerpt that Frank is referring to...
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Background
The bill was introduced in the House and Senate on February 18, 2021, by Rep. Linda Sanchez, and Senator Bob Menendez respectively.[6] Several Republican lawmakers expressed their opposition to the bill.[7][8][9] On the Democratic side in the United States Senate, lobbying for the bill was led by New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez,[10][11] which he called a "Herculean" task among Republican opposition.[10]

In addition to sending the bill to Congress, on his first day in office, Joe Biden signed three orders related to immigration. The first, in a Presidential Memorandum to the Attorney General of the United States and the Secretary of Homeland Security, aims to reinstate the DACA program.[12] The second, in the form of a Presidential Proclamation, overturned the travel ban imposed by Donald Trump through Executive Order 13780.[13] The third was an Executive Order reversing Executive Order 13768.[14] Another Presidential Proclamation halted the construction of the Mexico-United States barrier by ending the emergency declaration that allowed Trump to divert U.S. Department of Defense funds for its construction.[15]

Under Senate rules, the bill needed 60 votes for cloture to overcome a filibuster. Facing Republican opposition, the White House indicated the possibility of breaking the reform bill into pieces so that portions more likely to be approved (like the DACA, and employment visa provisions), could pass sooner.[16]

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You wasted a lot of time and server space just to show your lack of effort and understanding.


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Citizenship_Act_of_2021

Thread Level: 9

And you forgot to mention there were Dems against this bill too which probably is why it didn't get

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:33 pm on Oct 17, 2024
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to far.

Critiques of the Bill

Those against the passage of H.R. 1177 or some of its many changes to the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act have several reasons for their opposition. Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR) argues that the legislation invites more illegal migrants at a time when public health concerns are at their highest. Senator Cotton states that the bill has “no regard for the health and security of Americans”. Several democratic politicians have also taken this view of H.R. 1177, with Representative Vicente Gonzalez (D-TX) stating “The way we’re doing it right now is catastrophic and is a recipe for disaster in the middle of a pandemic.”


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Not uncommon to have disagreements, yet sufficient bipartisan support was achieved…

Author: TyroneIrish (20597 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:25 pm on Oct 17, 2024
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…and Trump killed it so as to maintain the problem as a major talking point…which you are all too happy to perpetuate.

Thread Level: 11

Trump did not kill HR 1177. Another lie.

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:28 pm on Oct 17, 2024
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H.R. 1177 was the precursor to the bipartisan Senate "Border Act of 2024"...it served as the

Author: TyroneIrish (20597 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:27 am on Oct 18, 2024
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Democratic framework for negotiations with Republicans that led to the agreed upon bill, focusing on increased human resources (Border Agents, Judges, Processing Staff, Facilities, Policy Changes, Asylum Seekers, Deportations, and Fentanyl Scanners, to name just a few...but NO additions to our current Border Walls...which was agreed to by the Senate Republicans, but not DJT, who then made it clear that he did not want any bill to pass that was bipartisan...and involving credit to the Biden administration.

Just do some research on how incensed those hard working Senators and their staffs were when DJT demanded the best Immigration/Border Protection Bill since Ronald Reagan be stopped. Trump is the one keeping the Border 'Open'...and Fentanyl Flowing IN.


Thread Level: 13

Biden/Harris caused the problem reversing Trump’s policies. They could have reinstated those

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:05 am on Oct 18, 2024
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policies. But they didn’t. You continue to refuse to admit your party caused the problem. To stop the flow at the border, Biden didn’t need a bill. He could have used executive order. Biden/Harris allowed millions upon millions into this country, secretly flying them in and dropping them off in various cities in the middle of the night, allowing drugs and crime to pour in. That’s on the Dems. The border was in very good shape when Biden and Harris took office. But being that you like to deflect, the most recent bill in my opinion wasn’t a good bill. Only a few republicans supported it but if it was a good border bill, it wouldn’t allow 1.8M illegals into the country before declaring an emergency. So much harm done to this country by the Dems and people like you that support such nonsense.

Thread Level: 8

You need 60 senate votes and they didn’t have them.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:06 pm on Oct 17, 2024
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Sorry pal. This was not Kamala at the debate. She was very disturbed and anxious.

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:43 am on Oct 17, 2024
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Ironically, I feel she's terrified... of winning!

The bimbo who slept with a married Willie Brown to launch her "career" as a California politicians understands deep inside that she is not up to the task of leading the nation, domestically and especially internationally.


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Imposter Syndrome

Author: Iggle (12628 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 10:51 am on Oct 17, 2024
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Sounded pretty measured to me, especially in comparison to her opponent.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:45 am on Oct 17, 2024
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Trump idles at 80. He's always all over the place.

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:51 am on Oct 17, 2024
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She looked very different...and I thought she looked great at the debate.

He's been attacked his entire life... and almost thrives on it.

She's never had to face serious opposition.


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So? The point is she handled herself decently, much better than her

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:32 am on Oct 17, 2024
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opponent would under similar circumstances.

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Really? You are about as objective as the squad,

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:06 am on Oct 17, 2024
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The interview was a hostile hit piece. She kept her cool and weathered it decently. Much better than Orange would have done on PMSNBC.

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Thread Level: 5

Wow! Baier is about as inoffensive a journalist as there is. MAGA types consider him a RINO at best.

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:35 am on Oct 17, 2024
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He politely asked exactly the questions she should have been prepared for and she did not answer a single one.

Instead she did what Obama ALWAYS warned black politicians not to do... she lost her temper.

Forget the content... the optics were terrible for her... which is exactly the opposite of her performance at the debate, which was masterful.

Whoever told her this would regain her momentum either was giddy or failed to prepare her.

Let's watch the polls. If she regains momentum then I am wrong.


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Huh? Did you listen to that? He was ready for “Baier.”

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:40 am on Oct 17, 2024
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She did a good job keeping her cool. Orange would have stormed off the set and then threatened to pull their license.

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Thread Level: 7

I suppose you would have preferred he ask her about her favorite color?

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:48 am on Oct 17, 2024
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Watch her going forward... she's gonna get more and more anxious. This moment on stage is too big for her.

Let's just watch the polls and then the results and we'll see who's more correct.


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Nope, expected it to be hostile. Just don’t say it wasn’t and he

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:35 am on Oct 17, 2024
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was Mr. Milquetoast as your post suggested.

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It was a bad performance. She didn’t answer what she was asked. She took no accountability. She

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:18 am on Oct 17, 2024
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blamed Trump for everything. It was supposed to be a half hour interview. She was late and her people whittled it down to about 20 minutes. The best is when she was presented with 80% feel the country is heading in the wrong direction but she acts like her near 4 years in office have nothing to do with that. The bottom line is this administration’s policy decisions have been failures both domestically and foreign. She has been in charge for nearly 4 years. She has to own it.

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Indeed. Deceiving as always...and this was an avowed Democrat doing the interview.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:26 pm on Oct 17, 2024
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