For those Catholics who plan to vote for Trump, pay heed --
Replies to: For those Catholics who plan to vote for Trump, pay heed --
As a Catholic, I will vote against Harris.
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Absolutely.
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As a Catholic you think a rapist with 34 felonies (so far) is the better choice
That's rich
Anyone knows that the cut off is 35…
….35 fake charges.
Who cares about 34 different payment checks to his lawyer for drawing up and executing an NDA (which is a legal document)……each charged as a separate charge. Who cares that despite it not being a crime that the statute of limitations had run out. Who cares that Bragg et al never revealed the charge that converted this into a federal crime? Who cares that the judge told the jury that their vote doesn’t have to be unanimous on the separate charges? Who cares this will all get overturned?
It’s just 34.
When challenged, Baron always hides under the covers...DJT was convicted of violating
campaign finance laws...just as his henchman, Michael Cohen was. MC was sentenced to 3 yrs in prison, basically for doing what his Boss, Donald Trump, ordered him to do...and the reason that Trump wasn't charged at that time is because he had his AG remove all reference to "Individual-1" in the charging document against Michael Cohen...i.e. a perfect example of "Lawfare"...not my 'opinion'...it's fact...per the lead attorney in the SDNY, Geoffrey Berman in his book "Holding the Line"...a non-fiction recount of what happened with the Stormy Daniels episode.
Trump is going to be sentenced in November and finally come face-to-face with reality...too bad there's no way to pull the covers off Baron.
Link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/05/30/trump-convicted-here-are-the-election-and-tax-laws-he-was-charged-with-breaking/
Jesus didn't say anything about those felonies.
But, yeah, she is the worst choice.
The difference: no one claimed He did
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Interestingly, we condemn evil actions like killing life and rape, & understand God is the judge of
people, while liberals condemn the people themselves thinking that it is their purview to judge people. But they do not condemn the action if it is something that they want to do for their own convenience.
Not just abortion....look at how they choose not to condemn the "Second Gentleman" for documented violence and abuse of women while doing so against Brett Kavanaugh without even evidence.
It is a character flaw seen over and over again with them. Hmmm.... I feel Rule #20 coming into focus.
It's more than "Interesting" that Baron has no hesitation judging who the "Practicing" Catholics are
on this board...or his total disregard for innocent women who are forced or coerced into pregnancies they never wanted, and then have no choice but to carry them to term, with all the threats to their physical, mental and emotional well being for the rest of their lives...or the women who have life-threatening complications from a miscarriage being denied care until there is virtual certainty that their health has declined to the point of immediate death.
It's interesting how Baron can ignore the one Person is these scenarios...the Woman.
Cool, so you're ok supporting a rapist
How am I not surprised?
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By the way, pretty sure Trump hasn't been convicted of rape. Death is a liar, again.
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The presiding judge says differently
Of course you'll still deny it because you're an idiot
Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
Your link (anti-Trump WaPo) confirms that a jury chose not to convict him of rape. Heh.
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I see the education system has failed you as well
Basic reading comprehension and you can't even manage that.
Read slowly this time:
"That the jurors did not find that Carroll had proven rape, Kaplan explained, “does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’” “Indeed,” he continued, “as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
I accept your apology.
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I didn't apologize, I provided proof that you support a rapist
Good job being a scumbag
You voluntarily provided a link confirming Ned's assertion. You're practically groveling.
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A judge confirming Trump is a rapist and you still live in denial
You support a rapist, loser. All your verbal diarrhea won't change that fact
Baron, Ned and all the MAGAs live by DJT's Code..."It doesn't matter what you say, just keep
repeating it."...should Harris win, that won't fly in the court rooms and juries Trump will become more and more familiar with...it would then be the end of his 'existence', and he knows it. This is a "Human Reptile" thrashing about and doing whatever it takes to avoid that fate...that's all his 'campaign' is about. It's certainly understandable, but it's a mystery why Baron, Ned, et al, don't admit to it...what do they get out of this?
Of course
Low IQ will have that effect
For most MAGAs that's true, but for those two, IMO it's a combo of Anger, Fear and Hate for anything
and anyone that doesn't conform to their rigid view of the world.
Only the timing and state in which the assault occurred saved DJT from such a conviction,
and the Judge denied Trump's request for a new trial because what he did fit the definition of "RAPE" in many other states (including Florida) and on Federal territory...note that NY later changed its statute to fit those other jurisdictions.
Trump is a Rapist...at least in the eyes of any discerning, and moral, Catholic...moreover, he defrauded Trump U. students who trusted in him...as well as donors to his 'Charitable Foundation'...not to mention his upcoming sentencing for Felony convictions.
DJT can't help himself...he's an off-the-charts Sociopathic Malignant Narcissist...what's your excuse?
Link: https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-denies-trumps-request-new-trial-jean-carroll/story?id=101485996
Denial doesn't change facts snowflake
Cry some more
You are the emotional one here, not me. You are quite frantic about all of this. We all see it.
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Sure snowflake
Objective analysis, one more thing you suck at
You should cool down Death. Such anger and hatred! It's not good for you.
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How are you morons so bad at analysis?
With an IQ as low as yours, you aren't qualified to give advice
And you are ok supporting murder & destruction of the Republic. By the way, I don't support Trump.
I chose my words carefully, but I suspect they went over your head. I don't support either candidate. I supported Tim Scott, but he did not win the nomination. So now, I've just decided to vote against the worst one.
The United States is a Representative Democracy
Don't you ever forget it
My vote will be my best attempt to keep it that way.
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Do you ever tell the truth?
Stop pretending
Which part do you think is a lie???
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Everything you post, even after being proven wrong
Time and time again
You will vote for cruelty, pettiness, dishonesty, corruption, and fear.
Praise Jesus!
Sounds like the Harris Platform.
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Re: For those Catholics who plan to vote for Trump, pay heed --
if you callyouself catholic and vote democrat, you are actually not catholic.
Thank you Your Holiness for that clarification.
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Luckily you don’t get to determine who is, and who is not, a Catholic
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Right, you're a Catholic based on a faithful effort to try to follow all of the Church tenants.
You aren't Catholic or not Catholic because of what someone else says anymore than you are Catholic because what you choose to call yourself.
It's something you fully embrace....or you don't. That doesn't mean that you can't ever fail, but it means that when you do, you repent, seek forgiveness, and sincerely vow to go forth and sin no more.
If you pick and choose, purposely defying what you don't like, then calling yourself Catholic is meaningless.
You may choose to call yourself a petunia also, but if you don't have the petals, it isn't so.
Neither do you.
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Where did he say he did?
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Where did he say he didn’t?
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Reading Comprehension got you down?
You'll be ok cupcake
Nobody is buying your repetitive shtick
I’m putting you on Ignore.
Like Ty you can huff and puff and call me names.
You bore me.
Never again.
Haha, stay mad
I don't care about your feelings, snowflake
Your opinion is in the minority of Catholics when it comes to the leading issue for Conservatives...
...Abortion...80% or more believe that "Under Certain Circumstances" that choice should be legal....here are a couple of relevant excerpts and quotations from Catholic Leaders in the attached overview...
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Surveys conducted by a number of polling organizations indicate that between 16% and 22% of American Catholic voters agree with Church policy that abortion should be illegal in all cases; the rest of the respondents held positions ranging from support for legal abortions in certain restricted circumstances to an unqualified acceptance of abortion in all cases.
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Some reasons for dissenting from the church's position on the legality of abortion, other than finding abortion morally acceptable, include "I am personally opposed to abortion, but I think the Church is concentrating its energies too much on abortion rather than on social action"[90] or "I do not wish to impose my views on others".[91][92][93][94]
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According to 2011 report from Public Religion Research Institute, 68% of American Catholics believe that one can still be a "good Catholic" while disagreeing with the church's position on abortion, approximately as many as members of other religious groups.[12] On this long-standing phenomenon of a number of Catholics disagreeing with the Church's official position on abortion, Pope John Paul II commented: "It is sometimes claimed that dissent from the Magisterium is totally compatible with being a "good Catholic" and poses no obstacle to the reception of the sacraments. This is a grave error". In what the Los Angeles Times called a key admonition, he added: "It has never been easy to accept the Gospel teaching in its entirety, and it never will be".[95][96] Many, however, suggest that this is the problem, that some of the strongest anti-abortion advocates seem unconcerned about critical social issues in the complete spectrum of the Church's moral teaching.[97] US Cardinal Bernardin and Pope Francis have been prominent proponents of this "seamless garment" approach.[98] The US Bishops have called on Catholics to weigh all the threats to life and human dignity before placing their vote:[99] the tag "intrinsic evil" can lead to an over-simplification of issues.[100] In his column in the Jesuit magazine America, Professor John F. Kavanaugh, S.J., observed:[101]
Most people open to the facts recognize that a human life has begun by the end of the first trimester of a pregnancy. It is at this point that some common ground may be reached to protect unborn human life. There is political will at hand to ensure such protection; but as long as the extreme positions hold sway, no action will be taken.
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Forgiveness of women who abort
Apart from indicating in its canon law that automatic excommunication does not apply to women who abort because of grave fear or due to grave inconvenience, the Catholic Church, without making any such distinctions, assures the possibility of forgiveness for women who have had an abortion. Pope John Paul II wrote:
I would now like to say a special word to women who have had an abortion. The Church is aware of the many factors which may have influenced your decision, and she does not doubt that in many cases it was a painful and even shattering decision. The wound in your heart may not yet have healed. Certainly what happened was and remains terribly wrong. But do not give in to discouragement and do not lose hope. Try rather to understand what happened and face it honestly. If you have not already done so, give yourselves over with humility and trust to repentance. The Father of mercies is ready to give you his forgiveness and his peace in the Sacrament of Reconciliation.[69]
On the occasion of the Extraordinary Jubilee of Mercy in 2015, Pope Francis announced that all priests (during the Jubilee year – ending November 20, 2016) will be allowed in the Sacrament of Penance to refrain from enforcing the penalty of excommunication for abortion, which had been reserved to bishops and certain priests who were given such mandate by their bishop.[70] This policy was made permanent by an apostolic letter titled Misericordia et misera (Mercy and Misery), which was issued on November 21, 2016.[71][72]
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IMO, and that of a majority of Catholics, the Church is understanding of extreme pressures placed upon women in Certain Circumstances...and does not want to "cast out" women who have chosen to have an abortion. I suggest you spend time absorbing the comments made and discern, through "Prudential Judgement" how Catholics can vote Democrat, in the face of a Godless alternative...Donald Trump.
Let's not forget that America is not a "Catholic" nation...and the Gallup Poll, dating back to 1975, has found that only 21% or less, of the population believe Abortion should be illegal in ALL circumstances...even more reason to not ban abortion...anywhere in the country.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_abortion#