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Biden to pardon his son Hunter.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:31 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Family of scumbags. Sayonara.

Link: https://x.com/NBCNews/status/1863378154187842043?t=N42kPn_oeOVYuO7Lvq-ATg&s=19

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Thread Level: 2

Pardon the J6ers.

Author: Cole (16188 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 9:37 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Another one who thinks cop beaters should be pardoned. Why am I not surprised. Old Joe will help

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:52 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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make your dream come true.

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Next press briefing for KJP should be fun.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:14 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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She should just quit and let Sleepy shuffle out there to take questions.

Link: https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1863384018332348443

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Fine Trump 1st day pardon all Jan 6th hostages, Rudy and anybody else falsely accused….

Author: jamie (1485 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:21 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Rudy and “the hostages” weren’t falsely accused. Guess attacking cops is good in your book.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:11 am on Dec 2, 2024
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For what? Gun violation? Drug felonies? Sex trafficking? Tax evasion? Lobbying/bribery for Big Guy?

Author: NedoftheHill (44675 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:19 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Everything likely. Effin’ BS.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:32 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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So, once again, the Dems do what they claimed their opponent would. Liberalism Rule #1.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59933 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:03 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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No one is above the law. Except the whore loving, crack head whose father happens to be POTUS.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:52 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Talk about a threat to. democracy, these. new Dems are a riot

Author: cubsfanin16 (5500 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 8:42 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Talk about a threat to. democracy, these. new Dems are a riot

Author: cubsfanin16 (5500 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 8:42 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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I don’t like the idea of a President pardoning a family member, but I get it.

Author: conorlarkin (21015 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:36 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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No one has ever been prosecuted by DOJ on those facts and circumstances.

This was a “political” prosecution by a Trump appointed US Attorney looking to score points for his career.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Which is exactly what Orange is saying about the J6 and his own prosecutions. Horrible decision.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:26 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Just enables the lawlessness to come. And why shouldn’t he have been prosecuted for evading taxes? You are either for the rule of law or not. Joe isn’t for it either. Mafia Don decision. Nation is going down the tubes.

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Horrible comparison Frank. And you know better.

Author: conorlarkin (21015 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:38 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Link: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/12/01/statement-from-president-joe-biden-11/

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Bullshit. Being his son doesn’t mean he can commit federal crimes with impunity.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:39 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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And why did he lie to the nation about it?

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My take is that 'Being JB's son shouldn't single him out for penalties no one else would suffer'...

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:59 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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for years, Trump and the GOP have tried to use Hunter's exploits to pin corruption charges on Joe...to no avail...this has been 100% political.

In the case(s) of Trump's transgressions, the evidence of extreme criminality...up to the point of an attempt at overthrowing our Constitutional Democracy...is overwhelming and deserving of trials/convictions...Good Grief...anyone who obstructed the FBI from retrieving Top Secret documents would already be in prison for many, many years...Trump has already been given "Pardons" from the Federal Judge, and from our Conservative wing of the SCOTUS.

Hunter's "Venial Sins" are not in the same universe as Trump's myriad "Mortal Sins"...and I personally don't believe Abraham (JB) needs to sacrifice Issac (HB) on this political altar.


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Alan Derschowitz and Jonathan Turley disagree with you

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:36 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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And since they're constitutional law professors (and Democrats, at that) well-versed in the law - and you're not - I'll take their word over yours.

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Both apologists and legal whores for Orange. They have zero credibility.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:38 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Or maybe they're intellectually honest?

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:25 am on Dec 2, 2024
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People going against the party line have more credibility than those sheepfully toeing it.

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They are both trumpy supporters. Dershowitz over Israel and Epstein Island.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:44 am on Dec 2, 2024
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Repeated apologists for him.

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Just like Dr. Harvey Risch, Mark can sure pick 'em...

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:03 am on Dec 2, 2024
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You're inability to use logic is showing again

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:23 am on Dec 2, 2024
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And since you butt-headedly refuse to read Dr. Risch's paper, you have zero standing to comment on HCQ+.

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Look, Mark, it's been over 4 years now since Dr. Risch's paper was discredited by the journal

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:04 am on Dec 2, 2024
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that published it...and no HC system on earth recommends HCQ+ for the treatment of COVID-19...it's long passed due for you to wake up and accept reality.

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Uhm tax evasion is a federal crime. People are prosecuted for that all the time. And he turned down

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:29 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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a sweetheart deal. It’s lawless and Biden lied about it bald faced.

Again, you either support the rule of law or you don’t.

Disgusting move.


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This is ridiculous...for many years the GOP has been doing all it can to reduce IRS staffing and

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:00 am on Dec 2, 2024
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enforcement of the very wealthy...yet, now they're now hell-bent on making an example of Hunter Biden...here's an excerpt from the attached link...

Any prosecutions are "Judgement Calls"...the IRS doesn't bring charges against every violation, so when someone has a special interest in the database name of "Biden", it's amazing how quickly a potential case comes to the fore...even if there aren't billions of dollars, or money laundering, or drug trafficking charges involved...and the 'target' paid back those taxes, including interest and penalties.
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The U.S. Internal Revenue Service’s sprawling civil divisions referred just 157 tax cases for criminal investigation last fiscal year — out of more than 200 million tax forms filed with the agency annually, according to new federal data. IRS criminal investigators accepted just 104 of such cases for further action in 2023, the fewest in the 10 years of data obtained by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists.

The IRS’s civil divisions, which comprise the vast majority of the agency’s workforce, are supposed to flag egregious tax cases for potential prosecution from the volumes of returns they process and audit. These referrals are often associated with large dollar figures and wealthier taxpayers, who in recent years have seen weak enforcement from the depleted tax agency.

The new data shows a 10-year plummet in the number of possible tax crimes identified by civil investigators. Last year’s referrals represent a 58% drop from a decade prior, when agents referred 377 tax cases.

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Again, Hunter Biden is a GOP tool in an attempt to inflict damage on his father...he paid back what he owed...that should have been the end of it.


Link: https://www.icij.org/inside-icij/2024/03/new-data-shows-irss-10-year-struggle-to-investigate-tax-crimes/

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Oh please Ty you are better than this. The GOP IRS attitude has nothing to do with it. The guy got a

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:00 am on Dec 2, 2024
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sweetheart deal that HE turned down as it didn’t include anything other than the tax evasion charge. The gun charge was going to go ARD. Arrogant prick got just what he deserved. Then Old Joe lies to America and pardons him. Effin’ bullshit. The only one in this whole mess with an ounce of integrity is Garland.

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After querying 'Why Hunter Biden pulled out of the plea deal', I found the linked NYT article

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:55 am on Dec 2, 2024
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...turns out GOP zealots just couldn't let him go...and turned that objectively 'sweet' deal into a very 'bitter one'...from the article...
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When one of Mr. Biden’s lawyers sent over the draft of the statement they intended to share with the news media, a top deputy to David C. Weiss, who had overseen the inquiry since 2018, asked to remove two words describing the status of the investigation, according to interviews and internal correspondence on the deal obtained by The New York Times. “Concluded” and “conclusion” should be replaced with the weaker “resolved,” the deputy said.

Six weeks later, the federal judge presiding over a hearing on the agreement would expose even deeper divisions and the deal imploded, prompting Mr. Weiss to seek appointment as special counsel with the freedom to expand the inquiry and bring new charges.

The deal’s collapse — chronicled in over 200 pages of confidential correspondence between Mr. Weiss’s office and Mr. Biden’s legal team, and interviews with those close to Mr. Biden, lawyers involved in the case and Justice Department officials — came after intense negotiations that started with the prospect that Mr. Biden would not be charged at all and now could end in his possible indictment and trial.

Earlier this year, The Times found, Mr. Weiss appeared willing to forgo any prosecution of Mr. Biden at all, and his office came close to agreeing to end the investigation without requiring a guilty plea on any charges. But the correspondence reveals that his position, relayed through his staff, changed in the spring, around the time a pair of I.R.S. officials on the case accused the Justice Department of hamstringing the investigation. Mr. Weiss suddenly demanded that Mr. Biden plead guilty to committing tax offenses.

Now, the I.R.S. agents and their Republican allies say they believe the evidence they brought forward, at the precise time they did, played a role in influencing the outcome, a claim senior law enforcement officials dispute. While Mr. Biden’s legal team agrees that the I.R.S. agents affected the deal, his lawyers have contended to the Justice Department that by disclosing details about the investigation to Congress, they broke the law and should be prosecuted.

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Again I keep going back to the statistics referenced earlier regarding IRS choices on prosecutions for tax evasion...something on the order of 104 - 330 indictments...out of 200 million tax returns. What are the odds that Hunter Biden's case is more important than those involving ultra wealthy individuals or racketeers? Is what he did illegal?...YES...but should a federal indictment have been brought?...According to Weiss' initial review...NO. Then the politics of the matter revved up. That's my objective assessment. And let's not forget that Hunter paid back his obligations in full...including interest and penalties. The IRS got its "Pound of Flesh"


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/19/us/politics/inside-hunter-biden-plea-deal.html

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It was still a sweetheart deal. No one gets a pass for conduct other than what is charged for which

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:52 am on Dec 2, 2024
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the plea was made. Stop making excuses. The whole thing is a disreputable disgrace. It only helps Orange do much worse things. The entire Biden family including Joe disgust me.They are grifters, just not as bad as the Orange clan.

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Agreed that Hunter made some serious mistakes, but there are GOP members of Congress that put JB on

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:34 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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an ethical and moral pedestal...by no means IMO is he a grifter...and certainly not to be included in any conversation regarding DJT and grifting. Hopefully, we both agree that Politics is deeply embedded in this issue.

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It’s absolutely embedded in it. But yeah he is a grifter by allowing and enabling his family to use

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:49 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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his name to enrich themselves, and by lying to the nation and bailing out Hunter who should have just taken what he was given in the plea deal. But no, he had Daddy behind him and could be an arrogant prick. We aren’t gonna agree on this, let’s just leave it here.

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It's a sad chapter...we've got a lot more serious concerns in front of us, and all of them have to

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:09 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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do with our Sociopathic Malignant Narcissist President-to-be, who is owned by the nation's worst enemy.

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Pathetic, even yr good buddy and room mate is calling you out? Does it it hurt?

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:59 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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There we agree.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:18 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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Well, Joe & Hunter were business partners and it would have come out in the trial.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59933 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:56 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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The pardon goes back 10 years. A complete joke. January 20th cannot come soon enough.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:52 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Many people have been prosecuted for tax evasion,.you're not a serious person.

Author: iairishcheeks (27172 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:45 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Find us a case on same facts. You won’t find one.

Author: conorlarkin (21015 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:00 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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While you are at it, find a federal case on same facts (and no prior record) where an addict was prosecuted for falsely filling out federal firearms form.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Don’t need one. No way he should have been pardoned on the tax charges. Again, Mafia Don decision.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:30 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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He also lied to the nation. Disgusting.

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You want to argue the gun case and ignore the tax evasion?

Author: iairishcheeks (27172 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:16 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Again, you're an unserious person.

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Find a federal case on same facts.

Author: conorlarkin (21015 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:35 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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And link from the respective DOJ or US Attorney website.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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You are forgetting about Wesley Snipes too. He served about 3 years, I believe.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17203 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 10:50 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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That's Russian disinformation.

Author: iairishcheeks (27172 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:09 am on Dec 2, 2024
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Here you go.

Author: iairishcheeks (27172 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:34 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Link: https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/al-capone#:~:text=On%20June%2016%2C%201931%2C%20Al,not%20bound%20by%20any%20deal.

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Then pardon the gun. It’s a BS charge. But the guy willfully didn’t pay his taxes. Any of us would

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:38 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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have been prosecuted for it. Stop being a hypocrite like Old Joe.

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You'd find another case like what you libs/Bragg brought against Trump?! Lol. Liberalism Rule #1.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59933 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:05 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Amazing he doesn't see how embarrassing his posts are for him.

Author: NedoftheHill (44675 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:13 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Lol. Sure.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:39 pm on Dec 1, 2024
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A scumbag raised a bigger scumbag and then pardoned him. End of story.

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