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Sleepy's administration considering "pre-emptive" pardons for Fauci, Schitt, etc

Author: Iggle (12633 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 6:05 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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Nothing makes you look guilty as hell like a pre-emptive pardon.

Link: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610

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It would be a complete act of cowardice to feed Trump’s narrative to lock up his enemies.

Author: conorlarkin (21061 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:56 am on Dec 5, 2024
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It would give credence that Pelosi, Liz Cheney, Schiff, Jack Smith, etc acted criminally in taking on Trump.

Invite the prosecutions. Rich donors can fund the defense.

Trust the criminal justice system.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Dems know Fauci committed crimes against the country & world.Most harm done by any doctor in history

Author: BaronVonZemo (60121 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:15 am on Dec 5, 2024
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Dr. Fauci's Presidential Medals...from both Rep and Dem Presidents...and the acknowledged

Author: TyroneIrish (20632 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:24 am on Dec 5, 2024
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millions of lives saved by his work on HIV/AIDS are testimony enough of his contributions to the Medical Profession...and certainly dwarf the CV of a message board Doc who can't even acknowledge his Specialty and Medical School when asked by another forum Doc who willingly provided his when asked.

Baron isn't worthy enough to touch the hem of Dr. Fauci's White Coat.


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If only you'd open your eyes about the Great Fauchino.

Author: MarkHarman (7291 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:09 pm on Dec 5, 2024
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Feast your eyes on this...

Author: TyroneIrish (20632 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:50 pm on Dec 6, 2024
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Awards and Honors for Dr. Fauci...

1979: Arthur S. Flemming Award[144]
1993: Honorary Doctor of Science, Bates College[145]
1995: Ernst Jung Prize (shared with Samuel A. Wells Jr.)[146]
1995: Honorary Doctor of Science, Duke University[147]
1996: Honorary Doctor of Science, Colgate University[148]
1999: Honorary Doctor of Public Service, Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania[149]
2002: Albany Medical Center Prize[150]
2003: Golden Plate Award, American Academy of Achievement[151]
2005: National Medal of Science, President of the United States[152]
2005: American Association of Immunologists Lifetime Achievement Award[153]
2007: Mary Woodard Lasker Public Service Award, Lasker Foundation[154]
2007: George M. Kober Medal, Association of American Physicians[14]
2008: Presidential Medal of Freedom[151]
2013: UCSF Medal, University of California, San Francisco[155]
2013: Robert Koch Gold Medal, Robert Koch Foundation, Germany[156]
2013: Prince Mahidol Award, Prince Mahidol Award Foundation, Thailand[157]
2015: Honorary Doctor of Humane Letters, Johns Hopkins University[158][159]
2015: Honorary Doctor of Public Service, The George Washington University[160][161]
2016: John Dirks Canada Gairdner Global Health Award[162]
2018: Honorary Doctor of Science, commencement speaker, American University[163]
2018: Honorary Doctor of Science, Boston University[164]
2019: Bertrand Russell Society Award[165]
2020: Federal Employee of the Year, Partnership for Public Service[166]
2020: Presidential Citation for Exemplary Leadership, National Academy of Medicine[167]
2020: Ripple of Hope Award, Robert F. Kennedy Center for Justice and Human Rights[168]
2020: Time's Guardian of the Year, along with the frontline health workers, Assa Traoré, Porche Bennett-Bey, and racial justice organizers.[169]
2020: Harris Dean's Award, The University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy[170]
2020: Knight Grand Cross of the Order of Merit of the Italian Republic[171]
2020: John Maddox Prize, Sense about Science[172]
2021: Blessed are the Peacemakers Award from Catholic Theological Union[173][174]
2021: Humanist of the Year by the American Humanist Association[175]
2021: Public Welfare Medal of the National Academy of Sciences[176]
2021: Dan David Prize, Dan David Foundation, Israel[177]
2021: President's Medal, The George Washington University[178][179]
2021: Honorary Doctor of Science, McGill University[180]
2022: Honorary Doctor of Science, Sapienza University of Rome[181]
2022: Honorary Doctor of Science, commencement speaker, University of Michigan[182]
2022: Hutch Award winner, Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center[183]
2023: ribbon bar Order of the Rising Sun, 2nd Class, Gold and Silver Star[184]
2023: Honorary Doctor of Science, commencement speaker, Washington University in St. Louis[185][186]
2023: Sheba Global Health Award from Sheba Medical Center[187]
2023: Foreign Member of the Royal Society.[188]
In addition to receiving an honorary degree in 2015, Fauci was invited to deliver guest remarks on May 21, 2020, for the Johns Hopkins University Class of 2020.[189] The College of the Holy Cross renamed its science complex the Anthony S. Fauci Integrated Science Complex on June 11, 2022.[190]
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I'm guessing Baron's CV isn't quite that formidable.


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci

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Since there is no criminality for those people, preemptive pardons would save them a great deal of

Author: TyroneIrish (20632 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:16 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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unnecessary legal costs and time burden. This is a real world example of the damage our SCOTUS has done in allowing a President like Trump (Hateful, Vindictive) to use his "Official Acts" to attack political rivals. Makes one think of Trump's BFF (Putin) reputed quote..."For my friends...Everything...for my enemies...The Law".

None of this would happen were the President-Elect not a Sociopathic Malignant Narcissist...

Edit/Clarification for Iggle.


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So, Biden's preemptive pardons mean to save them some $$? LOL. You're a joke, Ty. I mean it.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:35 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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You are the biggest joke here. He’s talking about the cost and harassment of such BS prosecutions.

Author: Frank L (64751 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:08 am on Dec 5, 2024
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"None of this would have happened under a President who wasn't a Sociopathic Malignant Narcissist"

Author: Iggle (12633 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:30 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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We agree!

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Precedent for Trump preemptive pardons, from birth thru end of term, to all of his officials?

Author: NedoftheHill (44728 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:06 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Agree that preemptive pardons are unnecessary, given there is zero criminality afoot.

Author: conorlarkin (21061 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:08 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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And if I were Tony Fauci or Adam Schiff, I wouldn’t want a pardon. I would welcome “Trump 2.0 revenge tour” witch hunts. Please. Please. Please.

In fact, I would consider it the honor of my life to be on Trump’s target list. It would mean I honored my oath of office and duty to my country.

Duty and service to our nation are sacrifices you never signed up for, huh Iggle? Just a taker. A self centered entitled rich kid, born on 3rd base.

Tony Fauci and Adam Schiff are distinguished and highly respected government servants. Great Americans.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Maybe they are just rumors about the pardons. But if they happen, and I think they will,

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:28 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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The question is why? Of course Schitt needs to answer for his continuous lies to the American public. That’s not even counting the amount of money wasted. Of course you don’t want to see the Covid Pope questioned. I would love to see RFK publicly question him.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Obviously preemptive pardons are necessary if the report is true. So, your "zero criminality" point

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:30 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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is invalidate.

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Weird, then, that the administration leaked this to Politico, a left wing organ.

Author: Iggle (12633 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:19 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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I don't think you need to worry about being targeted, Conor. Political movements generally go after competent opponents.

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Pardon constitutes an admission of guilt. Fasci can escape punishment. But he is GUILTY forever.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:38 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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That is often said, but I'm not sure there is any support for such a belief.

Author: NedoftheHill (44728 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:07 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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Why can't a POTUS pardon someone because they are innocent of charges?

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Fair point Neddie. Acceptance of a pardon though is equated with guilt in the public mind.

Author: Frank L (64751 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:10 am on Dec 5, 2024
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My bad. I meant to say preemptive pardon.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:08 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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Only because they have the link back to the Deep State (the real criminals)

Author: jamie (1485 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:32 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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You mean as an opposed to all of the actual ones that Orange gave to real convicted criminals?

Author: Frank L (64751 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:08 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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A travesty. But of course according to Eli, Orange never considered giving preemptive pardons to his family members.

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Whaddabout Trump???

Author: Iggle (12633 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:27 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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List his pre-emptive pardons, TIA .

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You should ignore his TDS. When he has no point, he does TDS.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:43 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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Right on time. Waddabout him? He’s the king of corrupt pardons and you said nothing about it.

Author: Frank L (64751 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:36 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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He also pardoned actual convicted criminals, not just people on a right wing hit list, singled out for selective prosecution cause they are on Orange’s enemies list.

And since we’re at it, waddabout his pardons promised to convicted cop assaulters who he calls hostages? Agree with that? But Biden even considering pardons for those on the MAGA enemies list is your issue. Hypocrite.


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List Trump's pre-emptive pardons. TIA

Author: Iggle (12633 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:02 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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Will be hard for Trump to top Sleepy for pardoning tax-evading, sister-in-law fucking, foreign-agent, drug addict shit birds. Or lying about same, consistently, for months and months.

Can't get rid of Biden soon enough. Garbage family.


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He was considering doing the same thing in 2020 according to the same type media reports were are

Author: Frank L (64751 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:07 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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getting now about what Biden is considering. You think he wasn’t? Never crossed his senile little mind? Sheesh. And Hunter wasn’t a preemptive pardon. It was wrongfully issued IMHO, just like all the ones Orange gave to his convicted pals in 2020 on his way out.

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So... None. Thanks

Author: Iggle (12633 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:12 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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BOOM. Of course, he thinks he can read Trump's mind to know what he WOULD have done. Mental illness

Author: BaronVonZemo (60121 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:16 am on Dec 5, 2024
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Yeah same as Biden, none. News reports that both were “considering them”.

Author: Frank L (64751 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:14 pm on Dec 4, 2024
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