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This Syria war is interesting.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25812 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:45 am on Dec 8, 2024
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The rebels are backed by Turkey (proxy ground) and the US (air/intelligence/special operations). Assad is backed by Russia and Iran.

When Russia attacked Ukraine, they had to pull out of Syria. Iran took control of influencing Assad. Then Hamas attacked Israel, so Iran had to take an eye off of Syria. At the same time, without Syria Iran can't buffer Israel via Hezbollah.

Assad's backers are weak, and the rebel's are on the move.


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability

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Thread Level: 2

Interesting to see 1 of last 2 remaining ME secular countries become Islamic state w/ help from US?

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:50 pm on Dec 8, 2024
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That's tragedy, especially for Syria that has been secular country for over half century and Christians, Muslims and non religious groups have got along very well in this country.

History doesn't repeat itself, but It often rhymes.
US used radical Muslim (ben laden) to the fight against Soviets-backed secular Afghanistan. Afghanistan turned out to become a backward religious country and terrorists heaven.

Then US stupidly turned another secular ME country Iraq into a Islamic state by throwing out Saddam, which US suffered 47k casualties and Iraqi people over 1 million

Then again, US turned the largest secular Arabic country Egypt into Muslim Brotherhood country by betraying secular Mubarak regime. Fortunately Muslim Brotherhood regime is short lived.

As we all know Islam, unlike Christianity, doesn't
have reform in its history and therefore no separation between state and religion. So, for a country of Islam religion, secular government which means you can have any religious belief but your religion is not in national politics, is always a better choice. Actually this is the way how Europe experienced, i.e. from dark age to Christianity reform, to secular states and finally to become modern states. But warmongering neocon never understand this point. They're very shortsighted and shallow.


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We figured you would be attending the “Welcome to Moscow, Assad” bash.

Author: conorlarkin (21009 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:22 pm on Dec 8, 2024
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Better than your “Welcome to Damascus, Al Qaeda, forget 9/11” bash.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:36 pm on Dec 8, 2024
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The dominos are falling toward Moscow. Putin better make a deal with Trump sooner rather than later.

Author: Curly1918 (16446 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:26 am on Dec 8, 2024
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If he doesn't he will end up Gadaffied. by his own people.

Link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/donald-trump-sends-message-to-putin-as-assad-flees-damascus/ar-AA1vtDqs?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=0ac39804f10d41fd948b5c14b89de1b5&ei=13

Thread Level: 3

Assad and his minions left Syria this morning.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25812 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:50 pm on Dec 8, 2024
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Game over.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
Thread Level: 4

Seems like the game has just begun.

Author: NedoftheHill (44666 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:59 pm on Dec 8, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Putin is in the process of telling Trump what to do...that's hardly "Deal Making"...

Author: TyroneIrish (20426 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:13 pm on Dec 8, 2024
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don't know why after all this time you can't comprehend their relationship.

Thread Level: 4

No link? Surely there must be some objective source for your bald assertation.

Author: Curly1918 (16446 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:09 pm on Dec 8, 2024
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And who did nothing when Putin took Crimea and crossed the redline in Syria?

On the other hand, who warned the Germans not to do the Nord Stream 2 deal?

Russia, Russia, Russia is just antiquated and discredited Dem talking point.


Thread Level: 5

Ignoring facts in evidence isn't going to win you many debates, Curly...to wit...

Author: TyroneIrish (20426 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:35 pm on Dec 8, 2024
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>Trump's many connections with Russia over a long time period...i.e. Politico's '7 Charts' or Trump connections with Russia...

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/

>186 References to Trump/Russia dealings...including a GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee Report

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

>And then there's Helsinki...with Trump demonstrating his fealty to Vladimir Putin (knowing that Manafort had already given internal polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik)...

You're an odd duck...one day opining on the struggles of your Ukrainian relatives due to Putin's attacks...and the next supporting the all too clear linkage between Trump and Putin. Guess the take away is that you are indeed "Unserious"...and should be treated accordingly.




Thread Level: 6

I see you googled Dem party talking points.

Author: Curly1918 (16446 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 6:31 pm on Dec 8, 2024
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These were the same folks you were linking for your precious “facts in evidence” that Joe Biden was still vibrantly in touch with reality.

Thread Level: 7

Have you looked at the links?...or do you only look at yours? ;-)...every last one of them is

Author: TyroneIrish (20426 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:03 pm on Dec 8, 2024
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documented...especially the Senate Intelligence Committee's Report that nailed Trump's Campaign Mgr., Paul Manafort, handing over internal polling data to his Russian counterpart, Konstantin Kilimnik.

When you've got the cards, why not "Talk" about them?

How did you come to be so 'Kompromised'?


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