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So, was she a DEI appointment? What other reason is there to mention her ethnic heritage?

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:38 am on Dec 9, 2024
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As a first generation American of Middle Eastern Heritage, she has become a role model for women in Law and Politics, most recently being named Chaldean Woman of the Year,” Trump concluded before congratulating Habba and her family on her new role.

Link: https://apple.news/ApTzUmHNFQF6XFzEYZ8MiIg

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I don't know. What do you think? Do you think she is just a DEI appointment?

Author: NedoftheHill (44640 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:57 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Sounds like she won accolades on her own merit which is NOT DEI. The Left thinks that hiring

Author: BaronVonZemo (59849 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:58 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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NEEDS to be handicapped in favor of minorities because of lack of ability. The Right believes in the ability of minorities being equal to non minorities.

The hiring of a minority is not in and of itself a DEI hire - particularly when the people hiring are conservatives, but it is not surprising that a liberal would think that it is.


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I wouldn’t know but identifying her ethnic heritage sure smacks of it.

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:00 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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So, then are you happy that Trump is acting like your DEI candidate would have acted?

Author: NedoftheHill (44640 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:09 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Merely pointing out the endless hypocrisy of the man and his followers. I know that makes you

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:14 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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uncomfortable. Seriously, and especially for someone always railing about woke and DEI, why mention it? Of what relevance is it to her appointment?

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Did he say he would pick the best candidate of middle eastern descent?

Author: NedoftheHill (44640 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:21 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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None of this makes me feel uncomfortable. I trust that Trump picks for reasons other than ethnicity, because, for better or worse, I don't think he cares about races. I think he cares about the qualifications of people. He's an MLK equality minded guy, not a DEI-minded racist. Having said that, the Left focuses mostly on race, and is quick to say there are too many whites, so pointing out non-whites is a reasonable way to head off criticism from DEI-racists.

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Oh please he got himself a little DEI attaboy there. Normally not a big deal but the virtue

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:34 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Signaling is worth noting with that hypocrite.

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I support you continuing to point out to the Left that Trump is not a racist. :-)

Author: NedoftheHill (44640 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:37 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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There's nothing clever about being so obviously Dead Wrong, Ned...here's just one article among

Author: TyroneIrish (20392 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:10 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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scores of others documenting what a disgusting human being you've chosen to support...and it isn't just Racism that defines him...check out this excerpt...does it warm your heart?...just imagine what he would say about "Special Needs Kids"...not unlike Baron's...
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BARBARA RES: We met with the architect to go over the elevator-cab interiors at Trump Tower, and there were little dots next to the numbers. Trump asked what the dots were, and the architect said, “It’s braille.” Trump was upset by that. He said, “Get rid of it.” The architect said, “I’m sorry; it’s the law.” This was before the Americans With Disabilities Act, but New York City had a law. Trump’s exact words were: “No blind people are going to live in this building.”
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If this is who you think should be the face of America, then YOU are just as disgusting as he is...no joke.


Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/

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Whatever. I still support Frank pointing out that you are wrong.

Author: NedoftheHill (44640 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:11 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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...just like you were wrong about Trump being the end of democracy (as you posted about planning for the next election), you are also wrong that he is a racist (as he appoints minorities that you guys then attack).

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Uhm no. He’s not wrong. I pointed out the hypocrisy of your guy using the same DEI narrative that

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:33 am on Dec 10, 2024
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you and he excoriate when it suits his purpose which he clearly did here.

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"Whatever?"...Seriously?...you blow off DJT's “No blind people are going to live in this building"??

Author: TyroneIrish (20392 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:06 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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...that kind of person is certain to utter "No Special Needs Kids are going to live in this building."...and you pledge your loyalty to him...probably right along with Baron. Just to amplify that statement, recall DJT telling his nephew to let his disabled son die and then move to Florida (see 'Guardian' article)...and you have the gall to say he's not a Racist, given all the first person accounts shown to you.

Here's hoping that your friends and family don't get wind of your posts on this Forum...is there no bottom to your own depravity?


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Your fairy tales & unreliable, nonsense accusations don't concern me. You have no credibility here.

Author: NedoftheHill (44640 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:34 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Typical Ned...never own up to your failings...just like your Avatar who, as I've shown you is THE

Author: TyroneIrish (20392 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:06 am on Dec 10, 2024
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Rock Bottom of Humanity...how you digest this and pledge your loyalty to him is extremely hard to comprehend...and obviously extremely hard for you to stand up and justify.

Don't ask me or anyone else to treat you with more than polite respect.


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No idea what you are talking about.

Author: NedoftheHill (44640 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:17 pm on Dec 10, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The footnotes were cut off.

Author: JarHead4ND (4262 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:20 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.
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Aren’t the Chaldeans largely Christian? She’s pretty hot.

Author: LanceManion (7937 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 12:36 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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She is described as an “American of Middle Eastern Heritage”. Sounds DEI to me.

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:28 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Why are you so obsessed with diversity? Racist much?

Author: LanceManion (7937 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 1:33 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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That would be your guy. Why would he include that if it isn’t a DEI pitch?

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:40 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Why should her ethnic heritage matter?

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Well there you go Donald Trump is more liberal than you think. Oh she does happen to be smart,

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 4:10 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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capable and not depressed.

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No she is not smart. I know people who went to law school with her. She did not even know the basics

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:21 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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of how to submit evidence in a civil trial. Another factor weighing in on the DEI issue.

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OK you probably know more than me. I hope she has at least learned a lot since law school.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 4:49 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Indeed. She will be submitting a lot of evidence in civil trials while advising the president.

Author: NedoftheHill (44640 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:09 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Now, she's been in the courtroom, I gather, so I assume she learned those basics. Not sure what basics Frank thinks she didn't know back in law school, but that is why you go to law school, and then why you become a junior associate...to learn those things. Not too surprising she might not know everything in law school, especially if she hadn't taken trial advocacy, or evidence, or civil procedure yet.

I don't know the percentages, but I bet that most lawyers don't ever argue a case in court. A lot of law is practiced outside the courtroom, with the goal of keeping the client out of the courtroom. So, many lawyers never learn courtroom practice fully, and if they need a courtroom lawyer, they hire a specialist. I once saw a litigator from a top national firm show up and botch a private negotiation (outside the courtroom), so I suppose I could say he didn't know the basics of how to negotiate a legal deal outside the structure of motion practice in the courtroom, and I'd be right. I never thought knowing motion practice was a hallmark of intelligence; it is a tool you learn if you need it. Not all doctors are surgeons. Not all surgeons have good bedside manners to be a pediatrician. Most of them are reasonably smart, though.

I can't speak to Ms. Habba, though...except to say that she is probably a lot smarter than the person Frank voted for to be president.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Oh please. You learn that in evidence. She was not well thought of in law school and was an

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:50 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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embarrassment in court and I would wager you that Kams who WAS a litigator would wipe the court room floor with her. She is a an Orange flunky, pleasing to his eyes who has gotten her place orbiting his sun. But she sucks as an attorney and is not very smart. She was also engaged to LITIGATE that case not to negotiate it and she was abysmal.

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KH was not good litigator. I previously posted her track record including her "bush push," by Willie

Author: JarHead4ND (4262 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:12 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Brown into jobs/positions following failing the bar exam. I know from socializing with some in that crowd.

No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.
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I’ll take your word for it. She was much better than this bozo though. I know enough about her

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:47 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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from both interviewing and socializing with people who went to school with her. Let’s just say her rep was somewhat similar to Kams. And her trial performance was an abomination. Bet that Kams could at least introduce evidence correctly at trial.

Link: https://www.businessinsider.com/e-jean-carroll-judge-bench-slaps-trump-attorney-alina-habba-2024-1

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Have Mr. Trump call me before she talks to committee members. But it looks like a bozo tie.

Author: JarHead4ND (4262 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:53 pm on Dec 10, 2024
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No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.
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Her performance in the Orange civil trial was cringe worthy.

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:52 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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You must be an attorney, I am not but I am a CPA and I can never remember anyone being charged with

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 5:38 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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a crime or being sued when the parties were completely happy and everyone made money and were happy to be doing business with each other. No one was injured.

I truly loved Business Law when I took it as one of my requirements my Accounting degree. I sometimes regret not having gone to law school but I was a little immature in the sense that I was a mama's boy and wanted to be near her to protect her from my father's ways.


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Not quite true. The bank was as the interest rate was more favorable to the lendee. There was

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:46 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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testimony on that at trial.

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The bank was represented, accepted the valuation, and was paid in full, never sued. A victim?

Author: NedoftheHill (44640 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:20 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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I know that they argued the bank was harmed, but they would not have made those arguments if they weren't looking for a reason to prosecute Trump. That is the perception outside of the TDS bubble, which is one reason by Trump won. If you have evidence that the bank was pursuing this before the government started pursuing this, I'm willing to listen.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Yup they were a victim and the company committed fraud. The amount of penalty though will be greatly

Author: Frank L (64662 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:31 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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reduced. Would say the same thing if this were the Bidens as would you.

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Doesn't every try to negotiate for the best rate? And they were anxious to do business with him.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 5:59 pm on Dec 9, 2024
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Also I don't know if this is true but was anyone ever brought to trial for this before?

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