Given the assumed affection of everyone here for Notre Dame...attached is a link to our new
President, Rev. Robert A. Dowd's, Initiatives going forward...and, in the context of recent Open Forum posts...especially the Notre Dame Board of Trustees' Task Force Report on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. It is a rather detailed and comprehensive document that includes the following sections related to DEI at ND... I) Introduction, II) Context, III) Process, IV) Observations, V) Strategic Framework, VI) Conclusion and Next Steps.
One takeaway from this document should be that DEI is firmly entrenched in the fabric of this University...and reading, even a small amount of it, should help you understand why that is.
btw, I'd also recommend clicking on the embedded link to Fr. Dowd's Inaugural Speech.
Link: https://president.nd.edu/presidents-initiatives/
Replies to: Given the assumed affection of everyone here for Notre Dame...attached is a link to our new
Thank God for ND's entrenched DEI policy or we'd have zero black representation
One has to wonder if our entrenched DEI policy extends beyond athletic scholarships?
Link: https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-notre-dame/student-life/diversity/
The Trustees' Task Force Report addresses the challenge of attracting Black students to a
Catholic University...it's easier with Hispanic students since a very high proportion are Catholic, but not so much with African Americans. Take a look at the "Observations" section.
Man you are sure effing with your fellow alumns on this one. I am getting a good laugh.
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It's a bit of a surprise to me that so many on this board just don't "get" what Notre Dame's mission
really is...and that they refuse to exercise the "Critical Thinking" you would expect from ND graduates..."Disappointing" to say the least.
Indeed. Very true. What would Hesburgh say? Can you imagine an entire university of Baron Von Zero
wannabes?
What's missing from that is economic class.
The age diversity piece made me laugh.
The Trustees Report addresses 'Grants in Aid'...
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Why are poor white people not considered a marginalized group?
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Man, even the blind squirrel. They should be actively recruited as well. Both can and should be done
Otherwise the top schools just perpetuate the same legacy elites from generation to generation.
Well, well, well, looks like we all root for a University firmly committed to DEI. Baron and MAS
must be weeping. The humanity of it all.
P.S. The new prez looks about 17 years old in his photo.
Us alumni types will need to push back on DEI as it is wrong-headed and degrades exceptionalism
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Feel free to offer suggestions on how to improve DEI efforts, but that Mission will continue...with
the support of many other ND Alums...like myself.
Whatever shall the University do without the financial support of the MAGA crowd here?
Navy may have to bail them out again!
Given that virtually all Catholic Universities support DEI, it's unlikely that our resident MAGAs
represent a majority opinion on that issue.
Notre Dame should definitely alienate half of its donors to implement racism.
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Half of its donors are the MAGA crowd here? Who knew?
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Sorry, didn't realize you were limiting yourself. I thought you were going for all Trump voters.
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RIF.
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I’m sure you will be listened to attentively. As a lowly fan, I need not worry. My son did attend
the law school. Does a grad program make one an alumn?
How many poor white rural kids are accepted into Notre Dame?
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Uhm, not many poor students of any race according to AI.
The median family income for students at the University of Notre Dame is $191,400, and 75% of students come from the top 20% of income earners.
Both the urban and rural poor look well represented, eh?
You forgot the new buzzword/initial, B for Belonging
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Do yourself a favor...read the Trustees' Task Force Report.
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Although I think you are genuine in your beliefs, I think you are wrong. The trouble with DEI is
that it inevitably leads to poor results or mediocrity at best. The best that can be achieved with it is B- results to put it in education terms. Although today's education results are far less than they were 10 years ago, the grades given are higher. Explain that.
I did, does not support your opinion.
Only qualified students will be admitted.
Interesting. Perhaps Tyrone is trying to sabotage ND fund raising.
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LOL...are you accusing the CSC's...the ND Admin...ND Board of Trustees of "Sabotaging" ND Fund
Raising?...They are the ones who have gone public in support of DEI.
Do you ever think before posting?
No. I accused you. You laugh too easily.
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So you are confessing to an "Ad Hominem" argument...took you long enough ;-).
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Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
I don't think you understand what ad hominem argument is.
Are all your accusations against Trump ad hominems? Many of them are, to be sure, but I doubt you think any of them are. When you understand why you think that your accusations are not ad hominems, you will understand why my accusation was not an ad hominem
Well, I guess we can add "Deflection" to your Ad Hominem...in case you missed my linked definition
of that term in the post just prior...here it is again...
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Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person'), short for argumentum ad hominem, refers to several types of arguments that are usually fallacious. Often currently this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribute of the opponent's character or background.
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In this case the issue is "DEI" and I've provided substantial evidence of our Alma Mater's firm Commitment to Diversity, Equity and Inclusion...yet you oppose it without a single reference to all the reasoning that the CSC's, Administration and Board of Trustees have expressed in reaching their decision...instead you clearly state that your argument is with ME ("Perhaps Tyrone is trying to sabotage ND fund raising")...that, Ned, is a classic example of an "Ad Hominem", as explained above.
Oh, and Trump's Criminal behavior, Malignant Narcissism, Sexual Assaults, etc. are justification enough for singling him out for criticism...wouldn't you agree?...good Lord, you are really stretching for a way out. ;-)
He cannot comprehend the links that he posts.
He just looks at headlines.
He is a fake alumnus. No way did a wimp like him ever grad from ND, he
embarrasses himself regularly on this board by claiming to be an alum
He is not an alum or a Catholic.
Just a wannabe leftist.
He’s never answered a single question I’ve posed to him about alumni status, where he lives, age etc
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I think he may be a previous poster.
He’s only been here a little over 4 years.
Yet he knows who GOAT and others are.
GOAT left in 2009.
His profile says he watched Early Era of Ara games in person.
He’s got to be pushing 70 in that case.
I would think he’s been here before.
Just a hunch.
You just confessed..."Hensou" only joined two years ago, yet he speaks knowingly of "Aragoto"
...wriggle out of that one...Fraud that you are.
As for my alum 'Bona Fides'...there's a "Yes" under 'Alum Status' in my Profile.
Now I'm aware of the real reason for all this nonsense...you and others who disagree with what I have to say, just want to use whatever tactic you can to try and invalidate my comments...it is what it is, so carry on...I'll still be here.
That’s because I know Aragoto and GOAT. You are inane.
I’d be proud to post like either one of them.
I’ve known both for decades.
I admire their style.
GOAT seemed like a decent guy…
A little full of himself at times and not nearly the standout poster that he proclaimed to be. Aragato was forgettable at best. You’re a boring dolt who adds nothing to the board. No offense intended.
Doesn't answer the simple question...have you...the person you are...ever posted on this forum under
the username of "Aragoto"?...Yes, or No. It only takes a couple of seconds...just do it and we're done.
Not GOAT. Not Aragoto. Keep making a fool of yourself.
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Have you, the person who joined the Open Forum, ever posted under the Username of "Aragoto"?
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It took me under 20 seconds to search post history and see that GOAT's last post was in 2009.
If some disgusting child abuser stalker were accusing me of being another poster, I might look them up, too.
Is this beyond your capabilities?
LOL...here's "Hensou's" accusation...
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He’s only been here a little over 4 years.
Yet he knows who GOAT and others are.
GOAT left in 2009.
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Using his own logic...he's only been here for two years, yet he knows GOAT and Aragoto...is this a case of being OK for Me...but not Thee? ;-)
I actually know nothing about GOAT, but others like Conor do...what I do know is the username "Aragoto's" postings very well (who left just a couple of months before "Hensou" showed up)...and Hensou is a perfect match...the intense interest in my Dad's WWII B-17 crewmember, "Joe"...along with being a vocal and die hard Hockey fan...what are the odds? ;-)
Are you really this stupid?
He accused you of that because you stalk him asking if he's a 15-years-ago poster. He has said "no" repeatedly. You pretend that this is some gotcha moment, because he "knows when GOAT left." I showed you how simple it is to learn this, even for you.
You're desperate and flailing.
Nice try...my question has been...'has he, the PERSON who signed onto the Open Forum, ever posted to
it under the Username of "Aragoto"?'...he has never replied to that SPECIFIC question, please do us all a favor and ask him to answer it.
Not GOAT. Not Aragoto. You are deranged. Back on Ignore.
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You can't hide behind the 'persona' of a Username...real people use them...so, again I ask...are You
the Person posting as "Hensou", the same Person who posted under the Username of "Aragoto"...Yes, or No?...can't get any easier than that...and as a good Practicing Catholic, I know I can trust your answer.
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If you accurately describe it, we know enough to withhold all future donations.
The DEI report should be one page, with the words
"[Intentionally left blank.]"
You can always give to Ave Maria or Liberty. All is not lost.
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Or Franciscan, but the local shelter for unwed mothers is getting more this year.
And a bonus: They help people regardless of their race ... equality, not equity. Equity would withhold benefits based on skin color.
And here I thought virtue signaling was a lost art. Well done Neddie.
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Hopefully that will prompt someone to do the same. Definitely more worthy cause than any university.
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Then why did it take a DEI snit on your part to give them more and zero to Du Lac?
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Read the Board of Trustees' Report so that you can make intelligent comments...They've clearly put
a great deal of thought and investigation into it...and the Administration supports its recommendations for theological and ethical reasons. All you've brought so far is knee-jerk threat of withholding donations for unknown reasons.
Act like a learned person and cite statements from that Report you disagree with, and explain why you think they are wrong...can you do that? Given your inability to muster a reasoned reply to me on innocent women being forced or coerced into pregnancies, I have my doubts...but remain hopeful.