We are now a nation run by women, or, more precisely, run by the feelings or neuroses of women.
Adam Kinziger's fake crying today may have overtaken that Trump impersonator's Easter video as the funniest thing I've seen since Borat. But why did Kinziger fake-weep like a blubbering old maid? Because he knew he would receive accolades from many corners. We now reward weakness and victimhood. He was a victim too, you see. We must always feel safe.
Adam Schiff attempted to fake-cry, but he couldn't even work up any tears.
Then there was the Capitol policeman who, quite laughably, claimed that he felt more threatened on January 6 than he did searching for IEDs in Iraq.
Why are we back to mask mandates and talk of more lockdowns? Because the female ethic of zero tolerance for any risks or any threats now governs our political system, all lathered in therapeutic language, and and topped off with the obligatory assignment of blame. Assignment of blame rises in importance in direct proportion to the inevitability of the problem of crisis, in this case, a global pandemic over which we had no control. This is what drives the insistence on scapegoating political enemies as the responsible party for this pandemic's continuation. Ditto an issue like global warming. You will find women falling out of houses assigning blame for the state of the climate to their political enemies, as well.
Observe how these ethics tear apart other institutions, like the military, the education system, the criminal justice system. Do patriarchal systems produce restorative justice practices in education and in our justice system, or do matriarchies? Do patriarchal systems reward political theater like we saw today, with blubbering men, regardless if that blubbering was authentic? You know the answer to these things. What happens when you have a party that has become the party of women and an opposing party that has become the party of men, yet the party of men is scared to speak in opposition to these things because it fears it will lose too many female votes?
Replies to: We are now a nation run by women, or, more precisely, run by the feelings or neuroses of women.
Where are Maggie Thatcher and Golda Meir when we need them?
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Probably not coming back...except as flesh-eating zombies...
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If there are less dads, physically or emotionally, mommies dominate our personalities.
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As a Conservative, I have to say Rs aren't much better................
They have to run a 10 minute disclaimer on the evils of 1/6 before they even start talking about the evils of this "partisan" commission as a default setting prevention against getting cancelled. All the Conservative commentators are doing it too, ad nauseum .Rs talk and windbag their way through all the right leaning shows, but then go out and do nothing. Somebody wake up McConnel out of his coma. McCarthy is awake but he isn't much better. Both sides are only interested in keeping their position and getting a little something.
LOL. Thought I am the only one who dare to make this male chauvinism statement on the board
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The pussification of America. Not sure it can be reversed unless a big war comes along.
I'm not saying a war would be worth it. I'm saying a war is likely the only thing that can reverse it. We might be like the English...holding our manhood in reserve for important occasions...it's there, hidden, and we will always be a little embarrassed by it.
Long gone are the days of rugged individualism.
Now, we gladly trade freedom for security. Sad to see the death of a great nation.
I hate to say this but are a trumps left in the usa
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Putin and the Chinese love this spectacle.
They see U.S. self-flagellation displayed to the world and wimpy men trying to one-up the next guy in wimpiness. Could we look any weaker? I doubt it.
Putin and the Chinese are scared to dearth that DJT will the next president.
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and the democrats are scared to hell. that's hear in 01-06-20 hearing.
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Not as long as marines wear pink vagina hats
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Solid point. All hope is lost.
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Amateur psychology night on the Open. We need more manly types like Jim Jordan.
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Do you prefer the self serving buffoonery of Jordan or the outright corruption of Pelosi?
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Fair point. Although Nancy is more of a dude than some of the supposed guys in that crowd.
Tough lady.
All psychology is amateur. We know more about tectonic dynamics than about the mind..
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Actually, a great example is how Trump handled it when he contracted COVID.
He had a stoic response and told people that even if they get it, they can recover, too. No therapeutic language. No blubbering. No emoting. That's how every leader should respond to crises or challenges.
We've been on this road of feminizing society for decades, now. It isn't working. Rather than fewer mental illnesses among the population, we have more, particularly among women. Screwing up major institutions with emotive theater, McCarthy-like witch hunts, attacks on objectivity and merit, censorship of language, etc., cannot be fixed quickly once put into motion. Radicals tear things down. They don't build things, and it takes a long time to build these institutions. Talk about a "threat to democracy." When the institutions that constitute a democracy are used to target political enemies and particular factions unsuitable to the aims of the people in power, you no longer have a democracy, you have some sort of authoritarian, banana republic. Did I hear one witness today in a position of power actually say that all federal officials should be investigated to determine if they have any problematic beliefs? You don't have to be a right-winger to find that profoundly disturbing.
Those of you who think that the extreme polarization of our time is merely coincidental to the rise of women to positions of power, think about the so-called "extremes" among our politicians. You'll see a disproportionate number of women. Think about your own lives. My wife, like many women I've known, hates working for female bosses and in majority-female workplaces. They are dens of reputation-destruction, passive aggression, and emotive theater. Exactly what we see now in our society. Twitter lynch mobs for problematic speech. Mask hounds. Race hoaxes. And on and on. With regards to censorship of speech, look at the internet itself. In 25+ years, I've been on a lot of forums. Of the few that have female participants, the "moderated" forums come from these few. The moderators are overwhelmingly women and they devise ever-more restrictive rules about disallowed speech. The posters who complain about problematic speech are overwhelmingly women. They have less, not more, tolerance for differing viewpoints, in large part because women are much more likely to take criticism of their idea or belief as a personal attack. Every guy here has experienced that many times in his own life.
This all is less about women, in the end, and more about men needing to grow some and to step up. We need men to step up and say that emotive theater, witch hunts, feelings over reason, demands for zero tolerance of risks cannot sustain a civilization. We're not going further down this road. Life is hard and no one owes you anything. These are things that men and fathers especially, used to impart. It's crucial in any society.
He has supplied such a stoic example after he lost the election. Are you for real?
Whining, self pity, conspiracy theories. Such a Gary Cooper.
And the way he soldiered on with bone spurs while stoically fighting his own Vietnam against VD is simply beyond belief. The milky badge of courage.
Where in the world did I say that?
I said that the way he handled his contraction of COVID was stoic. I didn't say that he is stoic.
He is about the most anti stoic, whiny person you can find.
The fact that you would compare him to cops who got the shit kicked out of them defending the Capitol is redunkulous.
You also have no idea how stoic he was behind the scenes on his COVID. He may have been begging for those experimental treatments that helped save him that very few others were getting. Of course he was all okay and the gunslinger after they saved his sorry arse.
Just a poor, poor example consistent with your obsession.
Perhaps after being told that you're putting words in my mouth, you might ask a question for...
clarification. I did not state that Trump is generally stoic. I did not state that he reacted with stoicism in private. My post and this entire thread are about how our leaders behave in public and, thus, as leaders. I used an example of a man portraying to others stoicism and a spirit that we can endure things and survive. This is in contrast to the perpetual bedwetters here and in our society who have platforms and employ the language and behavior of women. No society survives on the language and behavior of women. Challenges will be insurmountable, weakness and victimhood will be celebrated more and more, feelings will be placed above reason, things will not be built, personal preferences will supersede merit, opposing opinions will be silenced more and more. You can dance around this, but at some level, you understand it's true.
If it is endurable then endure it. Stop complaining.
Marcus Aurelius
No one is inspired by weak leadership and sorrowful emotion. Strength and perseverance inspire us all!
MAS
One other thing Trump got right: men should not cry in public. They lose respect from everyone when they do that, particularly from women. It makes everyone intensely uncomfortable. This includes the workplace. Every guy here who works closely alongside women has seen them cry multiple times at work. We take them less seriously when that happens. That is magnified many times when a man does the same.
You used him as an example and it’s a poor one.
Because the whiniest bitch to hold the Oval was stoic in public AFTER recovering due to experimental drugs, that’s something to emulate? Like that’s hard to do? An achievement? Please. Egads man you have lost it with your obsession.
I don’t care if a man cries in public or not. Not a marker one way or another for me. I’m sure some of the most evil men in history never did so. Some great ones have. And vice versa. The fact that a Choad like Orange claims not to and criticizes it says all you need to know about it’s value.
I used an example, and it was a good example of the behavior leaders should exhibit.
This in no way argues that Trump is generally stoic. I agree that he is generally not, but that's irrelevant to my point.
I get the feeling that when we do these laps around the park on side issues that aren't central to the point that this is deliberate and is done because I touch on something uncomfortable. Am I wrong? It's a consistent habit of yours.
No it was poor one for the reasons I said . Even if you limit it only to his comments AFTER
he recovered from COVID. Not hard to be stoic at that point. And we don’t know how stoic he was before his experimental drug recovery that almost no one else could get then.
I also strongly disagree on the males crying point you have been trying to make.
He appeared in public in the early stages and he spoke during his stay in the hospital.
Then he spoke afterwards. And, no, in the current culture, it is not easy for a politician to minimize COVID, at all. Do you think it's better for a people to fear a disease and to believe that the only way we can endure and survive it is if we get others to vaccinate or do you believe it's better to tell people that they as individuals are very likely to overcome it if they contract it? We've operated on the former for a year and a half and the neurotic are more neurotic, even after vaccination. This is coupled with public scapegoating from the highest office and assigning blame, and categorizing millions of Americans as unpatriotic lowlifes who don't care about anyone else. Does that sound remotely like effective leadership? You understand quite well. It's weak, it's whiny, it's an elevation of vice over virtue, it's all the things that make any group of people, be it a business or a team or class or whatever, fail. It's childish. Notice that although I characterize this administration's behavior as one that is making this pandemic worse, I will not say something stupid, like, "Biden and his lackeys are killing people! They have blood on their hands because they prompt more Americans to not get the vaccine with their language and behavior!" That's the kind of irrational, emotive theater stuff that saturates our matriarchal age and elevates vices rather than virtues.
He did not appear in the early stages. He appeared after he got his drugs and
knew he would be fine. Yeah we should all emulate and admire a man getting drugs that almost no one else could get and then waxing poetic about how he then beat the thing. You get crazier by the day.
Once again, you're factually incorrect.
Right after it was believed he contracted it, he spoke from the balcony at the WH before 2,000 people. He then had an interview where he acknowledged that he might have it, and in fact, did.
And, also once again, you ignore a question I asked. I answer your questions. Why do you feel entitled to ignore mine?
Which is the better approach from a leader during a pandemic?
Uhm no MAS, you are incorrect. It was announced he had COVID on Friday, 10/2.
Not by him, by the WH. The speech you are referring to took place on 10/10, after he got the experimental drugs and after he was released from the hospital. But don’t let the facts disturb your argument about how stoically he bore up after getting treatment that virtually no one else could have gotten. Such an inspiration. In fact it’s hard to think of a worse example of leadership than downplaying a disease after needing and getting, not one, but two experimental drugs that almost no one else could get to beat it. This is what happens when you go full bore to the nutty side.
I don’t think anyone could have handled the pandemic worse than Orange. About 81 million people agreed with me. Biden is doing a much better job. Ciao.
Link: https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/trump-covid-battle/
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