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It’s the victims fault.

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:02 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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In the public relations video that re-emerged from 2019, Deputy Chief Kristine Larson - who heads the Equity and Human Rights Bureau - defended the fire department's use of DEI hiring practices.

She then addressed concerns that female firefighters may not be strong enough to carry a man out of a burning building, to which she simply responded: “He got himself in the wrong place if I have to carry him out.”

Gavin knew.


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University of Notre Dame..."Our Commitment to Diversity, Equity and Inclusion"...

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:03 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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...are you fighting with us, or against us?

Link: https://diversity.nd.edu/our-commitment/

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MLK and Hesburgh turning over in their graves. Never thought they'd see racism at ND like DEI.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:56 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Marcus Freeman just said it best at the NC press conference yesterday….

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:12 am on Jan 13, 2025
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…..I hope that we can all be judged by our actions and not our skin color or nationality.

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The Proud Boys, Oath Keepers and scores of other Racist groups who are welcomed in the GOP are

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:05 pm on Jan 14, 2025
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doing their best to see that doesn't happen. As former GOP Strategist, Stuart Stevens, entitled the first chapter of his book "It Was All A Lie"......"Race, The Original Republican Sin"

By NO MEANS are we "There" yet...which is why DEI is so needed right now...and likely why the GOP opposes it.


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LOL Hesburg tried his Chinese on my Japanese friend… they all look alike. He was one of those.

Author: Protagonist (1096 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 1:54 am on Jan 13, 2025
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Well I guess your rendition of that anecdote is all anyone needs to know on this subject...thanks

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:17 am on Jan 13, 2025
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for sharing.

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Not true...

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:26 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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...from the attached UND Board of Trustees Task Force Report on Diversity, Equity and Inclusion...
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The University’s mission statement speaks to these commitments:

The University seeks to cultivate in its students not only an appreciation for the great achievements of human beings, but also a disciplined sensibility to the poverty, injustice, and oppression that burden the lives of so many. The aim is to create a sense of human solidarity and concern for the common good that will bear fruit as learning becomes service to justice…

In all dimensions of the University, Notre Dame pursues its objectives through the formation of an authentic human community graced by the Spirit of Christ.

The Constitutions of the Congregation of Holy Cross—the document that guides the life and ministry of the Holy Cross order that founded Notre Dame—states: “There are networks of privilege, prejudice, and power so commonplace that often neither oppressors nor victims are aware of them. We must be aware and also understanding by reason of fellowship with the impoverished and by reason of patient learning. For the kingdom to come in this world, disciples must have the competence to see and the courage to act.”

These are the ideals that must guide our aspirations for the University and our decision-making. We must fight against racism and all forms of injustice and inequity in our nation and the world. On our campus, we must examine the ways in which we can better live the ideals we profess. We pride ourselves on being a place of community, where all are welcomed and supported. We must acknowledge the ways in which we have fallen short in this regard and strive to become a better version of ourselves.

In the aftermath of the killing of George Floyd last spring, University President Rev. John Jenkins, C.S.C., and his leadership team identified the need—even as they continued to work with a sense of urgency on an array of diversity and inclusion initiatives—to take a step back and evaluate in a more comprehensive way the University’s larger efforts. When our Board chair, Jack Brennan, and Fr. Jenkins constituted this group in August 2020, they gave us the following charge:

[This Task Force] is to assist the University in its efforts to become a more diverse, equitable, and inclusive community. Its specific tasks include reviewing initiatives currently underway and the data available on the campus climate, with a special focus on racial matters and issues affecting underrepresented minority groups and on the particular challenges faced by low socio-economic status (“LSES”) and FirstGeneration students.

In announcing the Task Force, Fr. Jenkins stated:

We have heard from students, alumni, faculty, and staff, and it is clear that there is much to be done. We must improve the experience of our students from underrepresented groups, enhance the diversity of our faculty and staff, and deepen conversations and understanding about race and justice. We must foster greater cultural, racial, and ethnic awareness among all of us, and particularly among the majority— whether defined by race, religion, socio-economic group, or another characteristic—of the experience and voice of those in the minority. We must do this because only in this way can we live up to our Catholic mission, a mission that demands that we respect the dignity of every person, strive to build a community in which everyone can flourish, and show regard for the most vulnerable.

Our Task Force has discussed at length what Notre Dame’s aspirations should be with regard to diversity, equity, and inclusion. During one of our listening sessions, a faculty member captured it well when he offered a beautiful and powerful reflection on the critical difference between welcoming “others” into “our” home as guests, and truly sharing that home as equals. We have returned to this important observation time and time again in the course of our deliberations. While the framework that follows offers a road map for the University’s critical next steps specifically with regard to race and socioeconomic status within the context of the charge we were given, we believe our over-arching aspiration is to act to ensure that EVERY member of the Notre Dame community feels not merely “welcome” here, but rather that this is truly their home.

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The very example of Fr. Ted standing arm in arm with MLK stands in stark contrast to your fallacious statement. Fr. Ted was a Holy Cross priest first and foremost and truly lived out the Order's 'Mission/Constitutions'.


Link: https://president.nd.edu/presidents-initiatives/notre-dame-board-of-trustees-task-force-report-on-diversity-equity-and-inclusion/

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You say "not true" and then you support my point. Typical Tyrone.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:08 am on Jan 13, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Perhaps this example will help you see the truth....think of the never ending accusations of DEI

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:41 am on Jan 13, 2025
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'Incompetence' by MAGA types on this Forum...even ND grads...whenever a woman (typically Democrat and of color, if not always) is in a position of responsibility. Now, reflect on Fr. Ted's historic drive to make ND a CO-ED University. I feel confident in saying that Fr. Ted would un-questionably stand up...and Fight For DEI at Notre Dame, and everywhere else.

C'mon, Ned...admit it...you made a mistake trying to bring Fr. Ted into this on your side...the side of exclusion. That's not at all who he was.


Link: https://hesburghportal.nd.edu/story-dedication-coeducation-2.html

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Did they eliminate legacy admissions?

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:47 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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Deflection...the University of Notre Dame is 100% Committed to DEI...you have a problem with that?

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:16 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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Legacy admissions are the opposite of DEI.

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:42 am on Jan 13, 2025
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Notre Dame, and many other Universities are 'Walking and Chewing Gum at the Same Time'...it's a

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:00 am on Jan 13, 2025
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challenge, but DEI isn't going away at Notre Dame.

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/27/us-universities-diversity-legacy-admissions

Thread Level: 7

So they're not actually committed to DEI, got it.

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:04 am on Jan 13, 2025
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Actions speak much louder than words.

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The CSC's, ND Admin and Board can't be any clearer in their commitment to DEI...not sure why you

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:49 am on Jan 13, 2025
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can't see that...much less accept it. Legacy admissions is a separate issue...and more complex, especially for Private Universities that don't get state funding...catch my drift?

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You're not a serious person.

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:57 am on Jan 13, 2025
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Your response is devoid of substance...and understandably so...there are numerous articles you can

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:51 pm on Jan 13, 2025
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access that address the needs of Selective/Private Universities for funding, which ties into the long established practice of "Legacy Admissions"...a good example is Charles Kushner's $2.5M donation to Harvard just prior to his son, Jared, being admitted. It happens...the challenge is to take some of that money and make sure that those who don't have such an advantage get a chance at a great education...it's called "Balance"...not an easy thing to achieve.

Thread Level: 11

You can't "balance" moving privileged people to the head of the line, you don't understand DEI.

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:02 pm on Jan 13, 2025
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BTW, DEI could be done more properly if you accounted for class.

Thread Level: 12

Once again...no substance...and a predictably weak response. Here, with only a little effort

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:52 pm on Jan 13, 2025
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required, is documented evidence of why Private Universities feel the need to allow Legacy admissions...from the attached Wiki page (with references)...
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Legacy preference or legacy admission is a preference given by an institution or organization to certain applicants on the basis of their familial relationship to alumni of that institution.[3] It is most controversial in college admissions,[4] where students so admitted are referred to as legacies or legacy students. The practice is particularly widespread in the college admissions in the United States; almost three-quarters of research universities and nearly all liberal arts colleges grant legacy preferences in admissions.[5]

Schools vary in how broadly they extend legacy preferences, with some schools granting this favor only to children of undergraduate alumni, while other schools extend the favor to extended family, including: children, grandchildren, siblings, nephews, and nieces of alumni of undergraduate and graduate programs.[6] A 2005 analysis of 180,000 student records obtained from nineteen selective colleges and universities found that, within a set range of SAT scores, being a legacy raised an applicant's chances of admission by 19.7 percentage points.[7]

Legacy preferences are controversial, as the legacy students tend to be less qualified and less racially diverse than non-legacy students.[8] However, legacy students are economically beneficial to universities, as they are perceived to be more likely to donate to their university after graduation and have parents who are perceived to be more generous donors.[8] Legacy preferences are particularly prevalent at Ivy League universities and other selective private universities in the United States.[9]

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Currently, the Ivy League institutions are estimated to admit 10% to 15% of each entering class using legacy admissions.[21] For example, in the 2008 entering undergraduate class, the University of Pennsylvania admitted 41.7% of legacies who applied during the early decision admissions round and 33.9% of legacies who applied during the regular admissions cycle, versus 29.3% of all students who applied during the early decision admissions round and 16.4% of all who applied during the regular cycle.[22] In 2009, Princeton admitted 41.7% of legacy applicants—more than 4.5 times the 9.2% rate of non-legacies. Similarly, in 2006, Brown University admitted 33.5% of alumni children, significantly higher than the 13.8% overall admissions rate. In short, Ivy League and other top schools typically admit legacies at two to five times their overall admission rates.[23] Among top universities, the University of Notre Dame and Georgetown University are known to weigh legacy status heavily in their application processes.[24]
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As for academic qualifications...see the Wiki article chart...

Private Universities, especially...like Notre Dame...need Private donations...which often come from wealthy graduates...not taxpayers of the state they are in. Surely you can grasp the reality of this situation. And...a Religiously Oriented University...like ND...is very likely to use some of those donations to advance programs they believe strongly in...like "Diversity, Equity and Inclusion"...there you have it...all in a simple, easy to understand 'Nutshell'...you're welcome.


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_preferences

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Capture_d’écran_2023-02-11_213711.png

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I'm sure marginalized communities will understand that the virtue signalling is all bullshit.

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:08 pm on Jan 14, 2025
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If you call Commitment and Positive Action "Virtue Signaling"...so be it. WAY BETTER than sitting on

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:44 pm on Jan 14, 2025
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one's hands and voting for legislation that makes the lives of marginalized people that much harder.

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Jesus is all about DEI. We look forward to your next 75 posts clinging to the past.

Author: conorlarkin (21011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:34 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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https://blogs-images.forbes.com/harrybroadman/files/2017/12/bored-meeting.jpg

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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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DEI must include basic competence. Standards apply.

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:33 am on Jan 13, 2025
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Your comments are absurd.

Christ spoke of different gifts given by The Holy Spirit.

He spoke of talents as well.

You do not speak for Jesus.

He’s just a punchline in your sick jokes.


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Blaming the fire damage on DEI (vs climate change) is your absurd starting point.

Author: conorlarkin (21011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:46 am on Jan 13, 2025
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Even Jesus is laughing at you.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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That's a lie. I did no such thing. Merely pointed out that competency matters in crisis situations

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 8:20 am on Jan 13, 2025
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Yes, Jesus was all about skin color, not content of character.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:52 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Your ilk presumes white males are qualified. You presume everyone else isn’t.

Author: conorlarkin (21011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:10 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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On the contrary. You do. Or, you wouldn't support DEI.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:05 am on Jan 13, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Once again, your Alma Mater is 100% Committed to DEI...always has been...always will be..

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:55 pm on Jan 14, 2025
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you might want to spend more time on another message board.

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That is utter nonsense. No one is buying this type of trolling.

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:34 am on Jan 13, 2025
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Have you discussed this with your posse?

Author: Frankx (5313 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 9:28 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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What does he say about killing viable babies?

Author: Cole (16183 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 9:28 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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If Jesus was all about DEI, how come the last supper was filled with whities? If that happened

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:30 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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Today, you would be first in line with your race card.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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There were no whites at the Last Supper. They were all Middle Easterners and Jews.

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4618 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:12 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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All classified as Caucasian.

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:36 am on Jan 13, 2025
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Well, they weren’t brothers and that is what’s most important to Conor.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:57 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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The statement is from 2019. Gavin knew.

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:20 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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She should not be the chief after that comment.

Author: PaND (2720 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 7:09 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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That’s what DEI gets you.

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Insecure and incompetent white males are terrified of DEI. If the shoe fits ….

Author: conorlarkin (21011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:01 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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You are just trolling, right? You don't really support intentionally sacrificing human lives for DEI

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:55 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Of course he is and it’s good to see others that see it.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:48 am on Jan 13, 2025
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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You would know.

Author: PaND (2720 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 8:11 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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Carry on.

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He does know...and he's including you...

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:16 pm on Jan 12, 2025
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someone who has yet to display any compelling train of thought...which checks the box for Incompetence...as well as Insecurity (i.e. fear of engaging in Intelligent debate)

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