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Overall, Democrats haven’t tacked to the center. Learned nothing. It’s still 100 percent TDS

Author: Cole (16134 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 11:48 am on Jan 28, 2025
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with open borders, trans athletes and DEI programs being their main policies. They’re waiting for Trump to slip up or for a disaster to happen like Covid. They have no coherent messaging or policy solution to offer.

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They are still deliberately lying. Look at Chicago.

Author: Hensou (7954 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:08 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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Hideous, bold faced lies.

Link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/homan-demands-apology-from-illinois-governor-over-lie-that-ice-targeted-chicago-school-sowing-fear/ar-AA1xXvZU?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=b5794008bcbf4289c1377dc4d36a96d5&ei=27

Thread Level: 2

Oh really? The country will get the shits of mass deportations, DEI gaslighting, and trans crappy as

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:20 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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soon as prices don’t come down significantly, the deficit keeps rising, interest rates stay high, Medicare drug prices go up and the clown show is is in full gear.

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Yes, really. The Democratic Party has not recalibrated to the center on any issue.

Author: Cole (16134 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 1:29 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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As usual, you are incorrect. They recalibrated significantly on immigration during the campaign

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:54 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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including the bipartisan bill. It was though too little, too late. The other 2 are sideshow issues as indicated.

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The fundamental problem is that they have to oppose the strawman version of Trump that they created.

Author: iairishcheeks (26729 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:02 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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The fundamental problem is that the college educated segment of the country is ~36%, and Harris won

Author: TyroneIrish (19703 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:01 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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that demographic, but not the remainder...so when, a 'conceptual' issue like our "Democracy" is on the table, the majority of college educated voters "Get It", but many of the others don't. In truth, it's on the Dems to communicate better, but the non-college educated, as a group, will find it hard to do the necessary Critical Thinking to see through a skilled Populist campaign built on misinformation and lies.

Looking to the future, given that the GOP has shifted toward a Plutocracy that serves only corporate ownership and the wealthiest among us (we've been here before...(e.g. 1920's)...it won't be hard to find real life stories that can, and should, be presented to ALL Americans...including, and especially, those w/o a college degree.

Our immediate problem is dealing with DJT who is the Antithesis of a Public Servant. He actually goes out of his way to harm those who don't show loyalty to him or criticize him...(as if such behavior never happened in this country before)...rather than go out of his way to find common ground and 'give something, to get something'...you know...like "Make a Deal" which would build trust for the next Deal...and the one after that...and when combined, help to....get this...."Make America Even Greater"....sound like a good idea?...sure it is...but we know that is impossible for an off-the-charts Malignant Narcissist...his brain doesn't work that way...so, we have to work hard on our Representatives and Senators to pick up the slack...contain DJT...and hopefully get positive bipartisan legislation passed.


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Or, college educated voters tend to be Democrats because they fell for the indoctrination they got

Author: MarkHarman (7241 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:39 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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In which case they showed their lack of practical intelligence.

Thread Level: 4

You had 4 years to present an alternative path, you failed, miserably.

Author: iairishcheeks (26729 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:00 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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You've lost the youth, the working class and large segments of the black and Hispanic votes.

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The popular vote margin was only 2%, compared with JB's 4% margin in 2020, and in many people's mind

Author: TyroneIrish (19703 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:24 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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the loss was due to a combination of Misogyny, Racism and Inflation. On the latter point, JB had actually produced better results than any other developed country, and the DNC didn't communicate those facts very well, nor expose DJT for his ineptitude...it will be very different next time in 2026...when Trump's record will be there for all to see, along with the voting records of GOP House and Senate candidates.

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So, a 6 point swing? Good work, Dems!

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:22 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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This is a lie and you keep exposing how out of touch with reality you’re.

Author: Frankx (5089 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 3:43 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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The margin of victory is already documented...and the opinion on causation is shared by many others,

Author: TyroneIrish (19703 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:07 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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for which I researched before posting. Then, there's your opinion.

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You're a comedy show.

Author: jakers (13700 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:52 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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He’s a narcissist and he doesn’t even realize it.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 8:22 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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I don't think they's a narcissist, I think they are algorithmically enslaved.

Author: iairishcheeks (26729 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:27 pm on Jan 29, 2025
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You're proving the OP's point.

Author: iairishcheeks (26729 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:26 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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You'll lose to Vance for 8 years and continue to lose Congress is the path you are on. Trump should have been super easy to beat.

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DJT isn't off to a great start...e.g. releasing violent insurrectionists, and nominating incompetent

Author: TyroneIrish (19703 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:02 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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cabinet members that "Centrist Republicans" wince over, who are very likely to screw up their agencies to the detriment of even MAGA Republicans...so don't go spiking any footballs just yet ;-)...

WRT, J.D. Vance...remember that he's a front man for Plutocrat, Peter Thiel...a very proud Gay man, btw. Should be interesting to see that all plays out.


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"Violent Insurrectionists." Do you need a fainting couch?

Author: jakers (13700 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:52 pm on Jan 29, 2025
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Excellent. Only stupid people voted for Trump. Clearly you are not doing enough to save the USA.

Author: irish93 (1740 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2009)

Posted at 2:36 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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Fair, but why did the Orange Creature himself say he loved the less educated voter?

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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+6 Trumpie points. “Orange Creature”….yikes!

Author: BaronVonZemo (58844 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:14 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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The non-college educated are not stupid...they just haven't been trained and challenged to use

Author: TyroneIrish (19703 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:04 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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"Critical Thinking" on conceptual topics like 'Democracies...Autocracies...Plutocracies, etc.' like many of our well educated Founding Fathers were.

BTW, Jefferson, Madison, et al, knew the value of education and hence the creation of an "Electoral College" was based in part on seeing such people being 'Electors' who would protect the country from "Populist" candidates who could sway the less-educated in the wrong direction...as has happened with Donald Trump...sadly, many of our Electors were corrupted themselves.


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You are quite the narcissist. If only they were as smart and as inquisitive as you think you are.

Author: irish93 (1740 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2009)

Posted at 3:56 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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Malignant Narcissists have no empathy for others...and Dems are not like that...in fact, they get

Author: TyroneIrish (19703 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:17 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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criticized for caring too much...for people in the lower and middle classes who get short changed by GOP Plutocrats who side with the most wealthy in their quest to get even wealthier at everyone else's expense.

Just betting the odds, I'm guessing you aren't one among the Plutocrats, so be sure to keep an eye on how much tangible benefit DJT delivers for you and your family, as opposed to his circle of friends.


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People don't learn that stuff in college any more.

Author: iairishcheeks (26729 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:19 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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They learn it on the Joe Rogan podcast.

Thread Level: 7

Enough of them did in the 2024 election.

Author: TyroneIrish (19703 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:25 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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Link: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/politics-elections/2024/11/08/men-and-white-people-vote-differently-based-education

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Thread Level: 4

Isn't looking so good for you people's attempt to carve into 1A, is it?

Author: jakers (13700 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:34 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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They ARE the problem.

Author: BaronVonZemo (58844 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:32 pm on Jan 28, 2025
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