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More details on how the D.C. tragedy unfolded...

Author: TyroneIrish (20893 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:01 am on Jan 31, 2025
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...two podcasts with actual ATC data...this one from 'Blancolirio' and the linked video from 'Captain Steeeve'...




Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgllf1L9_4

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Thread Level: 2

A perfect storm.

Author: Curly1918 (16548 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:30 am on Jan 31, 2025
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I've taken that regional jet into Reagan countless times.

It will be impossible to make that approach without trepidation going forward.

On the other hand... they say that lightening never strikes twice... right?


Thread Level: 3

A perfect storm? Okay, a busy commercial airport along with a busy military flight path

Author: jimbasil (52803 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:03 am on Jan 31, 2025
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along with a dipshit in office who is dismantling Air Safety measures (on day one) put in place to avoid such tragedies
and the use of only 1 air-traffic controller at busy airport where the seat of the most powerful gov't on
the planet has its home - Yeah, I'd say it was a perfect storm.

You'd think being the home of the most powerful gov't on the planet, there'd be more regulation and a tighter
control of air-traffic, not less.
But then, you like most republicans, the completely banal understanding is chalked up to - "a perfect storm".

It doesn't get dumber than that.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 4

The air traffic controller was not the issue.

Author: PaND (2751 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 10:20 am on Jan 31, 2025
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Your rage post as usual makes no sense.

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Ah, so it was the DEI hire who caused the collision or anything the djt said?

Author: jimbasil (52803 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:10 pm on Jan 31, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 6

That is what you are saying now?

Author: PaND (2751 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 1:13 pm on Jan 31, 2025
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I thought is was because only 1 air traffic controller was on which no one else has said that I have seen.

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I haven't said any different

Author: jimbasil (52803 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:19 pm on Jan 31, 2025
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Link: It must be a DEI hire and Biden. It couldn't be the day 1 actions of DJT

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Actually, the ATC controller may be involved here, according to the video I posted of an interview

Author: TyroneIrish (20893 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:36 am on Jan 31, 2025
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with a former Blackhawk pilot and instructor...he commented that the controller was assured by the Army Helo (PAT25) that they had the "CRJ" in sight, but it'a likely that the plane they were looking at was one a couple of miles further behind the CRJ. The former Blackhawk pilot said that had the controller informed the PAT25 crew that the CRJ was actually at their altitude and just 1/2 mile away, then that crew could have been able to realize a collision was imminent and taken action to avoid the CRJ.

Perhaps we'll see recommendations in the future that ensure more specificity by controllers during such difficult circumstances, and restrictions on Army Helos wearing night vision googles around such busy airports.


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I can't believe I'm relying on Tyrone's posts... but they seem to provide the best perspective.

Author: Curly1918 (16548 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:42 am on Jan 31, 2025
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Ah, I'm not talking about that. I'm posting about What DJT said and did in

Author: jimbasil (52803 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:14 pm on Jan 31, 2025
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conjunction with the tragedy.

I'm not assigning blame -

So you're going with it was a DEI hire issue along with Pete Buttigieg and Biden - you know, what DJT said.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 6

Kind of like using a school shooting to call for national gun control laws in the press conference.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60415 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:37 pm on Jan 31, 2025
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Not good.

Thread Level: 7

You’re an idiot

Author: jimbasil (52803 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:50 am on Feb 1, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 2

And from the perspective of a Blackhawk Helicopter Pilot...

Author: TyroneIrish (20893 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:36 am on Jan 31, 2025
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There are no details yet. Only speculation. NTSB is still in recovery mode.

Author: ELP (9689 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 9:53 am on Jan 31, 2025
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Every licensed pilot in the country has be an expert guest on all these shows, including Fox. I have a drivers license but that doesn''t mean I know anything about driving an Indy car in the Indy 500. It's going to take time. I even know that and I've never flown.

Thread Level: 4

The NTSB's eventual finding will be the final word...and all who are reviewing the current data,

Author: TyroneIrish (20893 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:26 pm on Jan 31, 2025
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like the pilots in the videos, know that. btw, their emphasis is on DATA...not idle speculation or politicization, like Trump.

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