After watching J.D. Vance take center stage in Friday's ambush...I'm curious if it's part of a grand
plan for Trump to exit early and have J.D. Pardon him from those lingering Jan. 6th and Mar-a-Lago indictments...also, if the switch happened more than two years from now, J.D. could serve two more terms if elected. We know that DJT would rather play golf than do any serious work in the WH...and J.D. sees him as a "Useful Tool" (as does his owner, Peter Thiel). We'll know for sure when the 2026 Mid-Terms are decided...possibly sooner.
Replies to: After watching J.D. Vance take center stage in Friday's ambush...I'm curious if it's part of a grand
Yeah...Trump hates being president. Do you hear yourself???
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I'm curious as to why there are so many on this board who have never seen the elephant themselves
are so ready to send others, who in all cases are younger than themselves, into the tea garden at night while the elephants forage. Apparently, the promise of 2008 made to Ukraine has come to fruition, Ukraine is indeed now a quasi member of NATO and we are now obligated to defend Ukraine with money, equipment and manpower. Get your 782 gear ready folks.
My post is about Trump exiting before his term is over and having Vance pardon him...comments?
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He can just pardon himself. No need to leave office early.
Assume he will have an array of pardons ready to go for his administration personnel. Biden set a problematic precedent. Can I assume you agree? Or, can Biden do no wrong?
DJT is a vengeful and lawless man who would use taxpayer money to hound innocent people with bogus
DOJ lawsuits...Biden felt compelled to protect such people (e.g. Tony Fauci) with pardons. In a normal world...like with every other administration before Trump's, a President wouldn't dream of such a scenario. That's how despicable Trump is. As for Pardoning himself, that would take a majority of SCOTUS Justices to be as lawless...don't see that happening. With those Felony indictments for Jan. 6th and Mar-a-Lago waiting for him when he leaves office, he needs assurance that he won't stand trial...J.D. as President solves the problem.
Let's not forget that in J.D.'s own words, he sees Trump as a "Useful Tool"...what better way to 'Use Him' than to promise him a pardon?
Incorrect; the pardon power is reserved to POTUS. SCOTUS has no say. Regarding your other point...
...I guess we will all just have to be glad that the Democrats would never campaign on, and then pursue incarceration of the political opposition. Rolleyes. Seriously, you either have no self-awareness to post that, or no shame. I believe it is the latter.
That's a bold statement given it's never happened...and it runs counter to related theory and
decisions...here's one view on the topic...
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“Ever since the Constitution has been written, it’s been recognized that the president’s power of pardoning is […] not so broad as to allow him to pardon himself.”
The things you need to know:
President Trump has made the claim that he has the power of self-pardon.
The text and spirit of the Constitution strongly suggest the contrary.
Ever since the Constitution was written, it’s been recognized that the president’s power of pardon is broad, but not so broad as to allow him to pardon himself.
This idea stems from a legal principal established over three centuries ago in Anglo-American law. That rule is that no person may be a judge in his or her own case.
The last time this issue was floated was right before the resignation of President Richard Nixon. The Department of Justice wrote that a president may not pardon himself.
This DOJ opinion is not binding in the courts. But the reasoning of the opinion—centering on this principal that no person may be a judge in his or her own case—is compelling.
If such a self-pardon were issued, it could be challenged in court as an abuse of the Constitution, a violation of the pardon power, and not valid. The courts would likely follow the reasoning of the Office of Legal Counsel that a president may not issue a self-pardon.
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The safer route would be for Trump to have Vance pardon him....oh, and you can be sure that the Dems would never run on the belief that Criminals can Pardon Themselves.
How did you get so twisted as to staunchly support a proven Felon, Rapist, Serial Sex Assaulter, Cheat...and Colluder with the nation's worst enemy to win an election...while holding yourself up as a moral, ethical and religious person?...that's not normal behavior, Ned.
Link: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/unpacked-can-a-president-pardon-himself/
Sounds like advocacy. No way SCOTUS touches that with a ten foot pole.
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you, Baron, Eli, MAS, m.harmon and others have zero awareness. As a group you have never gotten
anything right. Your cult leader’s most recent declaration for Putin and Russia makes you ant-Americans.
And of that crowd, Neddie is the moderate.
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Oh, aligning with Putin and Russia is a good thing? I would think
Someone who has served in the military at one point would have better vision than that.
There’s a reason MAGAmoron is an accurate label.
A couple of things Jim, my time in the military included two years+ in active combat and just whose
man power would you use to force the Russians back to Russia? You have never seen the elephant and I can assure you that your life has been much more pleasant not having seen it..
FDR didn’t see it either. But he was a pretty effective wartime prez.
No one is forcing Ukraine to face the elephant. Biden offered Z a ride out of it. The fact they have the courage to face it, should mean
something, yes? They are admirable as a people. Are you seriously claiming that Orange has handled this well?
It’s precisely the opposite. By continuing to give the dictator what he wants, we ensure more of
our younger generation will “see the elephant”. Right now the Ukes by their choice are fighting our battle. Abandoning them now will only make it more certain that we will eventually have to fight ourselves. What do we do when he moves on the Baltic’s which are Article 5 members of NATO?
I hear you Frank. How does the war in Ukraine end? What can we do to punish Russia? A concern is
that whether an end is negotiated now or a year from now, the terms will be the same and the only difference will be that more will die needlessly.
By forcing Russians back to Russia.
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Game is over at this point. If we had signaled to Putin that we still support and supply Ukraine
until there is a reasonable peace, there may have been a chance. But to start out caving to Russia is both stupid, despicable and doomed this process. He owns this like he owns the Afghan agreement.