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Do MAGA voters not give a shit when Trump lies right to your face?

Author: Quest4twelve (6465 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 7:10 am on Mar 12, 2025
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He keeps claiming he inherited a mess from the previous administration. That eggs are going down in price. That he has brought interest rates down.

When Joe Biden said nonsense, like the inflation rate was already super high when he took off that was bullshit and we all knew it. It wasn’t personally his fault, but he told a lie. Why does MAGA enjoy being lied to?


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Cheering Trump's obvious lies is a loyalty test, wie die Nationalsozialisten.

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:21 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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I see you are recycling a question I asked of the Left in past.

Author: NedoftheHill (44306 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:39 am on Mar 12, 2025
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Fair enough...if you had given an answer back then.

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Still 'forgot' to answer: Do you support the proposed tax cuts which add $2T/yr to the debt?

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:12 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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I'm curious when you asked this question before. Q didn't ask it.

Author: NedoftheHill (44306 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:48 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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You are a liar and a weasel, MAGA Ned.

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:43 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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You seem confused.

Author: NedoftheHill (44306 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:16 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Do you support the proposed tax cuts which add $2T/yr to the debt? - 3/9/2025

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:40 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Since you forgot to answer: Do you support the proposed tax cuts which add $2T/yr to the debt? 3/9

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:39 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Since you forgot to answer: Do you support the proposed tax cuts which add $2T/yr to the debt? 3/9

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:37 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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He won’t answer. - Frank L 3/9. Frank, you were right.

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:38 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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I answered. Board Ops can decide if they want to let you stalk me or not.

Author: NedoftheHill (44306 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:44 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Since you forgot to answer: Do you support the proposed tax cuts which add $2T/yr to the debt? 3/09

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:36 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Your answer, please: Do you support the proposed tax cuts which add $2T/yr to the debt? - 3/10/2025

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:34 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Who is this left that you asked questions of? Are we talking about a person or persons?

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

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You asked if MAGA voters give a shit when trump lies all the time?

Author: jimbasil (52296 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:40 am on Mar 12, 2025
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Interesting.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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No clue what you're referring to, but have an answer to this question?

Author: Quest4twelve (6465 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:09 am on Mar 12, 2025
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Started with Obamacare (they called you stupid voter). Later conspiracy theories.

Author: NedoftheHill (44306 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:16 am on Mar 12, 2025
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Regarding inflation, remember when Biden lied about inheriting 9% inflation?

Remember Biden was running the country? His son, etc.

I asked numerous times if you guys liked being lied to. I don't recall you answering.

I don't consider myself a "MAGA voter," so I do usually feel free to ignore questions directed to MAGA. To answer your question, I don't enjoyed being lied to..not when the Dems were gaslighting the nation, or any other time. But then, I always knew I was selecting the least imperfect choice of two choices. I don't love Trump no matter what. I just like it when he does good things for the country. Most of what he is doing is good.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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If..."Most of what he is doing is good."...then why say..."I don't love Trump no matter what."?...

Author: TyroneIrish (19697 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:03 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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do you have "Schizophrenia" issues"?...or are you just being Disingenuous on purpose?...I'll opt for the later.

While I've got your attention, here's another copy attached of "Why I am not a Libertarian"...thought you might find it "Enlightening"...I especially draw your attention to the concluding segment. I also suspect that your Libertarian idealism is responsible for your misguided views and posts.
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The libertarian delusion: A society of free-wheeling, self-reliant individuals

As noted earlier, individuals can only maximize their opportunities — and thus their freedom — in communities. However, contrary to a central assumption of libertarianism, we are not individuals who choose to live in communities only out of self-interest. Rather, we are fundamentally interdependent social animals, whose identity as self-responsible citizens depends upon, and is only possible because of, community. At every stage of both our personal history, and our collective evolutionary history, we are thoroughly dependent upon family, community, and society. Only at one unique stage in our lives, and only recently in our history, does our social dependence seem less obvious  —  when we are young and healthy and have enough resources at our disposal to strike out on our own. Libertarians would take this short moment of (illusory) independence and design a political system around it.

But we are interdependent social animals who identify with families and social groups, feel loyalty to and make sacrifices for those groups, prefer to live and work in groups rather than alone, seek the approval and respect of others, and naturally feel empathy toward others, all of which override simple calculations of self-interest. In fact, human activity has little to do with a rational calculation of self-interest at all. The decisions and actions of normal humans are always filtered through emotional and social considerations.

Recognizing the essential importance of social institutions and communities means that politics must remain a complex and frustrating trade-off between personal rights, personal obligations, and community needs. It can never be as simplistic and one-dimensional as the libertarian would have it. That is why I am no longer a libertarian.

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Your comments are welcome...


Link: https://publicseminar.org/2016/11/why-i-am-not-a-libertarian/

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No answer, MAGA Ned? Do you support the proposed tax cuts which add $2T/yr to the debt?

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:13 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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You are acting like your post isn't the first time you asked this question.

Author: NedoftheHill (44306 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:46 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Why are you so emotional and butt-hurt about this?

(I suppose I should say I've been ignoring you until very recently. Now I remember why.)

My position on tax cuts and deficit/debt is simple, and stated many times before here in the Open. (I don't know about "the" tax cuts you are talking about...got a link?), but I can answer generally:

Our current debt and deficit spending are existential threats to the Republic. They were under administrations of both parties, so my position is neither left nor right, just fiscally conservative. Do you agree with me? I guess I'll have to call you a weasel if you won't answer.

There are two ways to handle this: tax increases and spending cuts. I'm willing to do both. Are you, weasel?

But, massive spending cuts must come first (before tax increases), for the government to show good faith that any additional taxes will pay down the debt...that it can be a good steward of the extra revenue. Up until now, additional taxes have just resulted in more spending, which means the government will just spend additional money without addressing the existential debt threat.

If the government cannot show it is serious in addressing that threat, then they should just leave the money in the hands of the people so that we can each prepare for the coming debt apocalypse in our own way...take care of our own, since the government will not take care of all. If the government isn't serious, I am, so reduce my taxes until the government can cut spending.

It remains to be seen if DOGE will be able to cut spending. Your side opposes addressing the debt, and is fighting tooth and nail to keep spending at existential threat levels. If you fail, and Trump succeeds in cutting spending, I will consider supporting higher taxes.

What say you?


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Non-responsive. Do you support extending/proposed tax cuts that add $2T/yr to the debt?

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 4:22 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Tax increases are different than tax cuts. You still didn’t address if you support the cuts.

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:03 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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You're all over the place bro, try to focus in on one thing

Author: Quest4twelve (6465 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:32 am on Mar 12, 2025
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The ACA had a funding issue because people bitched and moaned about not paying up for not carrying insurance. Yet I'm sure those same people went to the ER when they got hurt....

Already covered the inheriting 9% inflation, keep up.

Not quite sure about the Hunter running the country comment. You don't consider yourself MAGA but propagate false conspiracy theories like they do, which equals MAGA.


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Read slower next time.

Author: NedoftheHill (44306 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:57 am on Mar 12, 2025
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Never said Hunter ran the country, but now that you bring it up, I suspect he played a role. Who do you think ran the country due to Biden's dementia?

Re ACA, do you remember the author of the bill saying he relied on the stupidity of the American voter? He was talking about his supporters...you. He figured you enjoyed being lied to, and wouldn't punish the Dems for it.

The Russia stuff (dossier, Hunter's laptop being Russia disinfo) has all been debunked. Did you enjoy being lied to about that?


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Them feet must be tired from all that running.

Author: Quest4twelve (6465 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 1:56 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Says the guy who won't answer. I answered. You won't.

Author: NedoftheHill (44306 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:50 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You did not answer.

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:02 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Incorrect. Its on this page somewhere.

Author: NedoftheHill (44306 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:50 pm on Mar 13, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Whatabout. Huh.

Author: Chris94 (36446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:44 am on Mar 12, 2025
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I hear Hitler liked to use that argument.

Author: NedoftheHill (44306 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:18 am on Mar 12, 2025
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Do you think he won because Biden/Harris did a great job? I just paid $5.89 for eggs. Are they 12

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 9:36 am on Mar 12, 2025
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bucks a dozen in California and New York?

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Ah - always the false spin. Protect DJT at all costs no mater the lie. Good cult member.

Author: jimbasil (52296 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:57 am on Mar 12, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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No spin. Just facts. Not sorry I live in a state with lower costs unlike you.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 11:11 am on Mar 12, 2025
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Answer - Far better than the fuckwad who was there for four years before them. And now

Author: jimbasil (52296 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:28 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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you’ve promoted him again and he’s wasted no time destabilizing the planet.

Well done knucklehead.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Pace yourself Jimmy. Three years and ten months is a long time to be so mad.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 2:19 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Really? I recall you being mad for 4 years under the prior administration.

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:15 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Sorry Frank but I wasn’t on here swearing at everyone because they didn’t agree with me. I didn’t

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 7:44 am on Mar 13, 2025
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care for the prior administration but I wasn’t posting on here daily crying about it.

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The Dem ticket should've won because as you can see volatility and putting your finger in the wind

Author: Quest4twelve (6465 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:07 am on Mar 12, 2025
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is not a way to make decisions in the highest offices of government.

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Um ok.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 10:30 am on Mar 12, 2025
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You are getting ripped off. According to Piggles they should be no more than $5.51.

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

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Frances gets bent over desk. Lashes out.

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 11:12 am on Mar 12, 2025
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Lather rinse repeat.

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$5.51, right genius?

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:02 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Even lower today!

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 5:11 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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You moronic cuck.

Link: https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eggs-us

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Except for real situations like the poster described.

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 6:29 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Jackass, douchebag.

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Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:07 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Hard to believe you are this dumb.

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:38 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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You always manage to exceed my expectations. Are you really quibbling about a self-reported retail price...a mere 30 cents from yesterday's average WHOLESALE price... And a long distance from the garbage you posted before editing your stupid post in abject shame???

Clown.


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Long distance? 19 cents Jackass.

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:55 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Much more than that. You edited your stupid post, loser.

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 10:04 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Untrue, but go with that you dumbass loser.

Author: Frank L (64022 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:09 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Damn I’m getting ripped off.. Milk $2.69. Gas $3.00. I’m not sure I’m gonna survive.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 10:33 am on Mar 12, 2025
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After 4 yrs of Biden, you have the hubris to ask that

Author: lmcdonald (1249 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2020)

Posted at 9:27 am on Mar 12, 2025
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Biden is biggest liar ever!

Author: cubsfanin16 (5480 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 1:28 pm on Mar 12, 2025
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Is this your "I love getting pissed on and being told it's raining" admission because the other guy

Author: Quest4twelve (6465 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:11 am on Mar 12, 2025
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did it?

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Irony

Author: irish93 (1738 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2009)

Posted at 9:02 am on Mar 12, 2025
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How so?

Author: Quest4twelve (6465 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:09 am on Mar 12, 2025
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