"What the Border-Hawk Catholics Get Wrong"...
...from the attached article...
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"Based on the outcry that followed Francis’s letter, you’d be forgiven for thinking it marked a dramatic departure from the views of his predecessors. It didn’t. “To welcome” the undocumented migrant “and to show him solidarity is a duty of hospitality and fidelity to Christian identity itself,” Pope John Paul II said in 1995. His successor, Pope Benedict XVI, remarked that immigrants and native-born people alike “have the same right to enjoy the goods of the earth whose destination is universal, as the social doctrine of the Church teaches.” In 2010, he selected “one human family” as the theme for the World Day of Migrants and Refugees."
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The vast majority of undocumented immigrants are law abiding and filling much needed jobs in many industries...back in late 2023 the Senate passed a Border Security and Immigration Bill that provided long term funding for ALL issues...including fentanyl trafficking. Trump is doing NONE of that with his "Mass Deportations"...we will be WORSE off now than we would have been had he not killed that Senate Bill, since there is no funding for all the corrections that are STILL needed.
DJT is all 'Smoke and Mirrors' to MAGA voters who can't do any "Critical Thinking", while he does his Master's bidding by sowing chaos throughout the nation.
Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/francis-immigration-catholics-vance/682078/
Replies to: "What the Border-Hawk Catholics Get Wrong"...
M’on man, Jesus would be all about mass deporting 9 million migrants.
It’s in the Beatitudes somewhere. Such feckin hypocrites.
The anti-Catholic leans into religion to push his open borders agenda. Shocked again.
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It's not me making stuff up...you're not listening to your Pope, who said the following wrt current
U.S. Immigration actions and rhetoric...
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In a letter to America’s bishops, Pope Francis last month decried a “major crisis” unfolding in the United States: “the initiation of a program of mass deportations.” He called on “all the faithful of the Catholic Church, and all men and women of good will, not to give in to narratives that discriminate against and cause unnecessary suffering to our migrant and refugee brothers and sisters.”
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It is a known and studied fact that the 'Undocumented Immigrants working in this country are more law-abiding than the citizen population'...yet the Trump administration focuses on the relative few criminals as justification for "Mass Deportations"...even threatening to re-institute "Zero Tolerance" provisions that separate children from their parents. This is barbaric behavior, and even the Popes who preceded Francis preached the same respect for "migrants and refugee brothers and sisters...see the following..
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Based on the outcry that followed Francis’s letter, you’d be forgiven for thinking it marked a dramatic departure from the views of his predecessors. It didn’t. “To welcome” the undocumented migrant “and to show him solidarity is a duty of hospitality and fidelity to Christian identity itself,” Pope John Paul II said in 1995. His successor, Pope Benedict XVI, remarked that immigrants and native-born people alike “have the same right to enjoy the goods of the earth whose destination is universal, as the social doctrine of the Church teaches.” In 2010, he selected “one human family” as the theme for the World Day of Migrants and Refugees.
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Everything Trump is doing is meant to weaken, if not outright destroy, the Good Will, America has built up over many generations. Oh, and for those just concerned about the "Bottom Line"...we NEED millions of immigrants...properly vetted...like the bipartisan Senate Bill Trump killed would have done...to remain here.
MAGAs have no concept or understanding that these "Mass Deportations" will harm not only our national GDP...but their own pocketbooks...i.e. not our Greatest Generation...rather our Dumbest Generation.
Why do you use "..." so much?
Such fascinating syntax for an octogenarian.
Why do you care?...
btw, do you understand and accept what Pope Francis is saying...and encouraging all Catholics to do?...i.e. don't support Trump's approach to immigrants and refugees.
Why don't you care?
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Troll Alert!...See Ya...when you show you can actually converse...not holding my breath ;-)
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Next he will post some out of context link.
And then say the Pope agrees with him. Seen it many times.
Don't turn your back on what Pope Francis is saying, because he's calling you out if you support
what Trump is doing. You can try and deflect towards me all you want, but you can't change what Francis is saying to you.
It's your choice...abide his and his previous Popes' counsel or find some other more comfortable religious teachers that will bless the separations of children from their parents, as Homan threatens to do. Talk about "Cafeteria Catholics"...
You use "Catholicism" as a weapon for political gain.
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You have yet to refute a single word I've posted...also, I'm quoting Pope Francis word-for-word...
it's your choice whether or not to accept what he says...but don't blame me for your deafness.
And it's sickening to see him bastardize it.
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I keep challenging you and anyone else to prove me wrong...no time like the present, Jake.
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You're literally wrong all the time. It's your trademark.
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Prove it...I'm waiting for you.
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Which example do you want?
Fine People. The Gender Wage Gap. Lockdowns. The 2024 Elections. Trump's imminent incarceration. Men getting pregnant. The Pope supporting "reproductive rights." Your father caddying for Babe Ruth.
You're a cartoon of nonsensical falsehoods and inaccuracies.
The Babe Ruth story is one of the funniest pieces of bullshit ever posted on UHND.
Only Tyrone would weave that character into a Memphis Belle-esque WWII hero. Dude comes up with some interesting fabrications.
If Biden's immigration policy resembled Clinton's or Obama's, Trump probably doesn't get elected.
Scale matters.
Link: https://news.gallup.com/poll/647123/sharply-americans-curb-immigration.aspx
The Biden Administration joined with Republican Senators to craft a Border Security & Immigration
Bill...listen to what the lead GOP Senator, James Lankford had to say about it...that is, if you genuinely care about what you post...and pay special attention to to what he says around the 19:00 mark (hint:...it shows who's really concerned about fixing things...and who is just using "Immigration" for Political leverage/advantage....
btw, I'm bookmarking this and will bring it out each and every time this issue gets brought up.
Link: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Senator+Lankford%27s+statement+on+the+bipartisan+Immigration+bill&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:68164141,vid:jbmZakY_JfQ,st:0
Looks like yah have Gilligan all pissed off. Good job.
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You should have bookmarked all of the crap you posted the last 5 years and were wrong about.
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Show me one...and be ready to defend your opinion...you're all bluster, but no substance.
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I'm suggesting you do some introspection, only you can do the work.
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LOL...I'm only asking you to present ONE example...tells me and everyone else you've got nothing.
Again...I welcome the challenge...it's the best way to see who's right and who's wrong.
Only you can make yourself better.
I could point out 100 examples of you being wrong, but.that would only result in 100 things you couldn't change about your opinions, out of ego driven spite.
When you’re in a hole, stop digging…you can’t cite even one example…but I’d
really like to see you try…
All of the CoVid shit you were wrong about.
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One more thing...before we leave the OP topic altogether, let's keep in mind what Sen. Lankford
had to say about the bipartisan Senate Border Security and Immigration Bill...and the threats he received for trying to solve our problems prior to the 2024 election.
My apologies for indulging your deflection...
Get a grip, Cheeks...you're just voicing your opinions..that's not proof of anything...pick any one
of the COVID topics...then define in detail what you believe I posted was objectively and provably wrong. If you'd rather pick another topic (e.g. AOC, Elon, Trans, JB, Kamala), be my guest.
Same goes for any of the other elements of your ranting. Sorry, but it takes focus and effort to justify your accusations.
I just listed the same. Hilarious he keeps needing "examples."
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Still waiting to hear you unequivocally express your support for a woman's right to choose an
abortion if she's been forced or coerced into a pregnancy that she never wanted. That one's definitely on my list...along with about 90% of Americans. What's keeping you?
I've stated my opinion on this numerous times on this board. Do your homework.
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Make it easy on both of us… Yes or No to a woman’s right to choose if
forced or coerced into a pregnancy she never wanted .
I say Yes…what say you?
I will remind you of your perpetual refrain - look it up yourself.
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While you won't provide me with a post of your position, I'll gladly show you what I've shared
more than once...in this case the addressee was Ned, who also couldn't/wont respond...maybe this will help you find the courage to open up...and discuss...if so, be sure to do what I've done...i.e. provide substantive backup for any of your opinions.
Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=228304
Arrogance combined with ignorance is a deadly combo.
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I and others have proven him wrong many times.
He just deflects.
LOL...Welcome to the club...would you like to go it alone, or sign on to a "Class Action" Challenge
on a particular topic of interest to you? ;-)
You think AOC is a genius.
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You think Elon Musk is a Nazi.
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You think men can get pregnant.
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You thought Joe was lucid.
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You thought Kamala would win.
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