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Modern day Gestapo. I don't give AF about what someone authors that differs from anyone else

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 3:52 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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We are the United States of America for fucks sake and the 1st Amendment is paramount. This is the kind of shit you expect to see in 1930s Germany or in Putin's Russia.

Link: https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/us/video/tufts-student-detained-rumeysa-ozturk-ice-digvid

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Thread Level: 2

Guy who had no problem with citizens being censored are worried about non-citizens being removed for

Author: iairishcheeks (27168 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:39 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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speech.

Thread Level: 2

7,300,000 illegals waved in by Sleepy. But let's worry about this Hamas supporter being sent home.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:11 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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I'm sure she'll do fine back home.

Thread Level: 3

Where do you get your figures?

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:14 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

Perplexity. Give it a try.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:15 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Query: How many illegals did Biden let in?

Thread Level: 5

He prefers Maddow.AI

Author: iairishcheeks (27168 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:20 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

For once just try and not act smarter than you are. A # was provided I want the source.

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:40 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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For acting like the exceptional one's, ya'll seem to need everything spelled out for you.

Thread Level: 6

I gave you clear instructions, moron. Follow them.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:04 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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You know it is true. Travel to New York you dolt.

Thread Level: 7

Piggles thinks anecdotes are facts. You're cute.

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:15 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Here you go, dolt.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:19 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Are you going to argue it is only 5,000,000 or something?

Link: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-many-illegals-did-biden-ad-QvkwOtcjRrGCn7sTbPL5sQ#0

Thread Level: 9

I'll pass on your Fox News, Heritage info. Google this string and let me know what it you see

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:34 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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'did Biden let in 25 million immigrants'

Thread Level: 10

This is where we're missing BVZ's rules

Author: iairishcheeks (27168 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:35 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

We should be concerned.

Author: conorlarkin (21014 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:42 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Luigi Mangione is a US citizen charged with murder. The evidence appears overwhelming. Yet, Luigi is presumed innocent and will have the benefit of all rights provided by our Constitution. These rights are our “quality control.” By providing Luigi with these rights, we protect the innocent.

We provide similar due process for immigrants, whether they be here lawfully or unlawfully.

When we deny a visa or green card holders basic due process provided by law, we become a regime.

Think like an American.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 4

Hopeful that Brian Thompson's sons will get to watch Luigi choke in a gas chamber.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:58 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Not surprised you are on board with this assassination.

Thread Level: 5

Protecting individuals from government overreach is the fundamental tenet of our nation.

Author: conorlarkin (21014 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:13 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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When you or a loved one become the target of unfettered power, remember this thread.

Or you could visit Independence Hall this weekend, and get a refresher course on who we are.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 6

A student visa is a privilege. Not a right.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:18 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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So, if you disagree with dear leader that’s grounds to deport? That’s what she did.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:11 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Pathetic, and also 1A protected.

Thread Level: 8

She supports a designated terrorist group.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:15 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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You are free to support Hamas, Frances. A person privileged to be here as a student puts herself in jeopardy of losing her visa if she does. Fuck her.

Thread Level: 9

What has she gone to support them Piggles? She wrote a letter disagreeing with your Mango savior?

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:22 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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What else piggies?

Thread Level: 10

Maybe you should consider a little pro bono work on her behalf.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:24 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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As for me, Sayonara Bitch.

Thread Level: 11

As for you, you are a dipshit that is anti speech rights.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:25 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Thread Level: 12

Poor Frances can't even think straight.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:26 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Thread Level: 13

More brilliance from the village idiot.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:30 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Thread Level: 14

Lol.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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I would happily spot you 25 points in an IQ test.

Thread Level: 15

One would make a lot of money buying you for what you are really worth and selling you for what you

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:35 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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think you are worth, dullard.

Thread Level: 16

Is that supposed to be profound or something?

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:46 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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OK. However, we both know I have accurately assessed the relative intellectual firepower, Frances. Good luck with tomorrow's arbitration!

Thread Level: 17

Nope, just the truth. And also the only thing assessed accurately. Now run along you insufferable

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:49 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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ass.

Thread Level: 18

Surrender accepted

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:52 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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But seriously, good luck tomorrow!

Thread Level: 19

Again proving your normal arrogant, incorrect assumption. Along with the ever brilliant surrender

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:55 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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assertion. You really are a dumb shit.

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Thread Level: 7

Not just 1st, but also 5th amendment.

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:42 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Where do you people get your facts from? The rights in our country do extend to almost everyone.

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Thread Level: 8

She can say what she wants

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:56 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Her ability to remain as a student is a privilege

Thread Level: 9

So you disagree with due process got it. Since when does the US detain and not charge?

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:58 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Again Gestapo tactics.

Thread Level: 10

She is being deported. Not detained.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:05 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Good riddance.

Thread Level: 11

And? No rights, correct? Let’s be clear about your America:

Author: conorlarkin (21014 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:15 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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ICE can walk into any college or postgraduate classroom, snatch up any student here on a student visa, and summarily detain and deport them?

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 12

She can head back to Turkey and make an appeal.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:20 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Good luck to her. She seems like a fine person.

Thread Level: 13

Sure piggies. You believe in free speech right? isn’t that what you asswipes are always braying

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:24 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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about? What else has she done to support a terrorist group?

Thread Level: 12

You're talking to someone who would've sympathized with Hitler. Sorry not sorry...

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:16 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Thread Level: 13

Hitler, lol

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:22 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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I guess that means I win. Thanks for playing.

Thread Level: 14

Piggles LOL, LOL, LOL...school girl laughing when typing.

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:37 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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OK Qwesty. I guess that means you win?

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:43 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Thread Level: 11

Deportation for exercise of a protected right is illegal.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:14 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Thread Level: 7

The visa holder enjoys First Amendment protection. She is not charged with a crime.

Author: conorlarkin (21014 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:26 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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The United States gave her a visa.

If we reach to revoke it, the student is entitled to a hearing.

Detaining her without a hearing violates her due process and her First Amendment rights.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 2

Any noncitizen can face the same political detentions we associate with regimes abroad.

Author: conorlarkin (21014 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:11 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Some keen insight from a NY Times piece:

"The footage of Rumeysa Ozturk’s arrest is a familiar sight for those of us who lived in countries with authoritarian regimes. In the video, Ozturk, a Turkish woman completing her Ph.D. studies at Tufts University, is approached on a sidewalk in Sommerville, Mass., by several plainclothes officers from the Department of Homeland Security while she was on her way to break her Ramadan fast with friends on Tuesday night. One hooded officer grabs her hands and arms as another officer, masked, approaches from her side. Clearly afraid, Ozturk is eventually handcuffed and taken to a black S.U.V.

This isn’t an isolated event: Ozturk is just the latest international student to have been picked up or targeted this way by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in the last month; the common through line to many of the cases is their participation in speech or protests against the war in Gaza, actions that are otherwise protected under this country’s free speech laws. As of Wednesday evening, Ozturk, who had a student visa, had been moved to Louisiana, and her lawyer said that, to her knowledge, Ozturk had not been charged with a crime.

It’s important to consider why ICE officers are making these arrests under the guise of immigration violations. Of the students targeted in similar fashion, none are charged with a crime, as far as we know. Rather, the federal government is utilizing a rarely used section of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which allows the secretary of state to deport noncitizens who could have “potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States.”

How broadly that could be interpreted under this administration is anyone’s guess. The government has provided very little public information in these cases about what exactly the students allegedly did to undermine U.S. foreign policy. And in an alarming sign, this process has involved not just student visa holders, but also green card holders.

Now, with the Trump administration’s broad use of ICE, it seems as if a precedent is being set: Any noncitizen can face the same type of political detentions we associate with regimes abroad.

Were Ozturk or others arrested by local or state police officers, they’d have much more due process. They could ask for bail. They could not be moved across state lines without reason and held indefinitely in federal detention facilities, as Mahmoud Khalil, Badar Khan Suri and Ozturk currently are while pursuing legal appeals.

Politically motivated detentions and deportations aren’t the only way the Trump administration is pushing the legal boundaries of ICE’s purview. The families of several Venezuelan men seeking asylum say the men were wrongfully arrested and deported to a Salvadorean mega prison because they were mistakenly thought to be associated with the Tren de Aragua gang. In those deportations, too, the administration has invoked a little-used law, the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, declaring the gang an enemy of the nation to speed up deportations of Venezuelan migrants with very little due process.

Effectively, these types of arrests could transform ICE into an extrajudicial force, one that could hold any noncitizen — regardless of the individual’s legal status — under an increasingly opaque and authoritarian set of laws. You could be in this country legally, even invited here on a Fulbright scholarship, as Ozturk was, and, without being accused of a crime, be taken off the street. Even though Ozturk’s arrest is a familiar sight to many, it’s difficult to believe that it’s happening here, today, in America."


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 2

It’s not like he didn’t telegraph this and it’s not like we didn’t

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:28 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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post this was one of his goals as a tyrant.

The worst part is how many in the US are just fine with this and what is next and next and next.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 2

A lawless regime run by an authoritarian wannabe who pardons people who assault the police.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:18 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Thread Level: 2

It is appalling. Rubio today said he has signed "hundreds" of visa cancellations.

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:37 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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This is abject bullshit. There is NO WAY they are all violent people.

Freedom of speech does not just apply to citizens.

Either there is a first amendment or there isn't. And we know what side the disgraceful president is on.


Thread Level: 3

Attorneys across the nation such as Mark Elias are going to be next.

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:25 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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Speaking out against Der Orange Fuhrer is now a criminal offense. Mob bosses don’t like being referred to as monsters.

The American Anti Christ resides in the Whitehouse.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3

The complete denial of due process is abhorrent.

Author: conorlarkin (21014 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:07 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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How would Rubio like it if the Government rounded up all the Cubans in Florida and shipped them back to Havana without a hearing on the grounds that all Cubans are "subversive."

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 4

It really is. What was predicted is starting to happen.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:08 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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They weren't peacefully protesting, which is why their visa was revoked and processed for

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:10 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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deportation.

You should be on your best behavior of you're in a foreign country with a visa.


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Then why aren’t there charges? It’s about her letter, not protesting.

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:08 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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She wrote an article. You are familiar with the 5th Amendment as well, yes?

Author: Quest4twelve (6684 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 4:17 pm on Mar 27, 2025
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