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So who are the people pushing this false narrative that Le-Ba-Ron is better than MJ?

Author: LanceManion (7665 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 6:59 am on Mar 28, 2025
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Look at the stats and the hardware. No contest. It's not a longevity contest. It's a greatest of all time contest.

Link: Le-Ba0Ron sucks

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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.

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Whoever is removing posts is an annoying jerk.

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:29 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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Admin usually just locks them unless they have state secrets

Author: LanceManion (7665 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 1:34 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Are those state secrets going to be sold to China? Just like Trump was supposedly doing with

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:32 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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Nuclear codes he had at Mar-a-Lago.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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I doubt admin is doing it. The posts seemed harmless.

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:47 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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its not even. close, if anybody's close, its Wilt

Author: cubsfanin16 (5488 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 11:23 am on Mar 28, 2025
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s not

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Wilt still has over 50 records that have never been broken.

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:01 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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You mean the HOF volleyball player?

Author: LanceManion (7665 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:47 am on Mar 28, 2025
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Um - who is pushing this narrative?

Author: Nigel Tufnel (7982 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:07 am on Mar 28, 2025
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I think it is generally accepted that MJ is the GOAT.

LeBron is in the conversation, without question. His continued elite play at the age of 40 is otherwordly.


'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Gen Z, those little fuckers.

Author: LanceManion (7665 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:41 am on Mar 28, 2025
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It is not generally accepted by NBA HOFers.

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:15 am on Mar 28, 2025
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I'm hideously biased about this

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:46 am on Mar 28, 2025
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I know MJ is the greatest. But I hate him. I was a big Knicks fan in the 1990s, and they could never beat him.

So I am hoping LaBron wins another title, so the case that he is the GOAT can get a little stronger.

He is an amazing player, whether you like him or not. MUCH better passer than MJ, and much bigger force inside.


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There's nothing wrong with your position. I was parallel to yours re: Brady/Montana.

Author: jakers (13739 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:11 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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I remained in denial about Brady's status, until he won his 7th title in Tampa. My reasoning was similar to yours: He beat teams/players I liked and always seemed to get the most absurdly fortuitous bounces of the ball. And I obviously favored Montana due to his N.D. connection and the teams I loved in the 80's.

It pained me to accept that he was the G.O.A.T.


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Someone should have told Larry Legend that MJ was the Greatest Ever.

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:05 am on Mar 28, 2025
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Link: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=did+mj+ever+beat+larry+bird&mid=29F7A6F5B68019DC762929F7A6F5B68019DC7629&mcid=4E8E2E21048641DFB7BF448119B4148F&FORM=VIRE

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That was fun to watch...well posted.

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:50 am on Mar 28, 2025
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Wilt would knock them both on their ass.

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 10:14 am on Mar 28, 2025
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Wilt almost yanking Shaq's arm off at age 60 ...

Author: LanceManion (7665 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:45 am on Mar 28, 2025
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Link: Don't mess with Wilt

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Can you imagine LeBron playing against the competition MJ faced? How do you think he would do

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:21 am on Mar 28, 2025
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against Lambier. Todays NBA is filled with pussies compared to MJ's time.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Give me a break. The NBA is better now than it was.

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:28 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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I watch a lot more of it than you do. The people who complain about the lack of defense are those who don't watch it.

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Right. It's much better. I can't imagine why the viewership is low. If it's so good, why aren't

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:41 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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more people tuning into watch? It's almost as if people have come to realize it sucks. Not to the level of the WNBA but it still sucks. But if you're happy with it, continue to watch. Most people won't.

Link: https://www.tiktok.com/@peterdanyliv/video/7308198204137344299?lang=en

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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You never watch it. So maybe you should be more modest in your expertise, mmmkay?

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:01 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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The speed and athleticism of today's players is incredible. The talent from around the world has elevated the game enormously.

You know nothing about this subject, so therefore you are a perfect MAGA contributor to the conversation.


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Watching the game is one thing. Observing the fundamentals rot is another.

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 1:31 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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You are a Pelicans fan for Heaven's sake.

Faster than Wilt and Russ? No way. More talented than Pistol? No way.


Link: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=nba+traveling+not+called&mid=21196328DD44783FB46A21196328DD44783FB46A&mcid=F1619E25AB03478BBFD072EA019FF6A1&FORM=VIRE

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You don't observe the games. And the fundamentals are as solid as ever.

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:39 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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Big men can shoot. Everyone can handle the ball. The passing is amazing. And they are tougher than ever (see article).

Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/10/nba-player-athleticism-physicality-evolution/675802/

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The Atlantic? Have you lost your mind? I'm sure they understand the 5 OUT Offense.

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 1:55 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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Did you ever play organized basketball?

There are no set plays anymore.

Lots of palming and traveling. This is undeniable.

It's a different game. The 3-point shot made it so.

Enjoy the Pels.


Link: https://www.outkick.com/culture/nba-unwatchable-garbage

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" There are no set plays anymore." I forgot who I was taking to.

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:51 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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You know more than the HOFers?

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:08 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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"I have a theory that it's down because we're looking at the same thing," Shaq told fans in early November. "Everybody's running the the damn top-of-the-key dribble handoff.

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No. I just know more than you.

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:33 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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That is illogical.

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 6:05 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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I agree with the HOFers who are not fans of today’s game.

Your knowledge of hoops pales in comparison to our
knowledge.

What sports did/do you excel at?


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Not sure what politics has to do with this but it's your go to insult. I know more than you

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:08 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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realize. It's a sport I grew up playing and played through HS until my knee gave out. I watched religiously until it became unwatchable. Again, why are the ratings so bad if it's so much better? You seemed to have missed that point so I will ask again.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Walk On

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:38 pm on Mar 28, 2025
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Lebaby would have been a complete dud

Author: LanceManion (7665 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:44 am on Mar 28, 2025
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Agree, LeBron is maybe in the top ten.

Author: PaND (2637 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 11:00 am on Mar 28, 2025
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Yep, Cal Ripken sucks

Author: holybull101 (10474 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:55 am on Mar 28, 2025
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I cannot find a Michael Jackson song parody for Cal. He is trash.

Author: LanceManion (7665 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:43 am on Mar 28, 2025
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LeBron’s mom?

Author: PaND (2637 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 9:53 am on Mar 28, 2025
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