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Author: MAS (21444 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:27 pm on Apr 2, 2025
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It will be exceedingly difficult to call Ron Klain a frontrunning opportunist.

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/apr/02/biden-ron-klain-trump-debate-prep-book-chris-whipple

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This isn’t a shock for those of us who saw Biden for what he was, an empty suit that was

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:22 am on Apr 3, 2025
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Supposedly running the country.

“According to Klain, it turned out that Biden “didn’t know what Trump had been saying and couldn’t grasp what the back and forth was”; left preparation and fell asleep by the pool; obsessed about foreign leaders, saying “these guys say I’m doing a great job as president so I must be a great president”; “didn’t really understand what his argument was on inflation”; and “had nothing to say about a second term other than finish the job”.”

All of this and Klain still thought Biden was the right candidate in 2024. Yeah, easily controlled and didn’t know what was really going on. Perfect for the unelected idiots to do what they wanted and use an autopen.


I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Tampa the cherry picker

Author: Quest4twelve (6665 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 7:25 am on Apr 3, 2025
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Angry dementia guy tanked the economy in just 2 months. Stable genius!

Author: ND521 (9406 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 11:37 pm on Apr 2, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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In 2 months this guy has tanked a functioning economy handed over by his predecessor, vegetable or

Author: Frank L (64656 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:11 am on Apr 3, 2025
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not.

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From the Guardian article...

Author: TyroneIrish (20384 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:12 pm on Apr 2, 2025
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“At his first meeting with Biden in Aspen Lodge, the president’s cabin,” Whipple writes, Klain “was startled. He’d never seen him so exhausted and out of it. Biden was unaware of what was happening in his own campaign. Halfway through the session, the president excused himself and went off to sit by the pool.

“That evening Biden met again with Klain and his team, [Biden aides] Mike Donilon, Steve Richetti, and Bruce Reed. ‘We sat around the table,’ said Klain. ‘[Biden] had answers on cards, and he was just extremely exhausted. And I was struck by how out of touch with American politics he was. He was just very, very focused on his interactions with Nato leaders.’”

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This jibes with what JB's campaign said...after much travel and reports of an illness, JB was exhausted. Now compare his debate performance with his SOTU speech performance...including ad hoc shots at GOP members just 3 months before. He was definitely rested and on his game...plus he had delivered on much needed legislation as well as doing the right things to make our economy the best in the developed world as COVID abated.

His Debate was a debacle for physical reasons, but not because of dementia...no one with dementia could possibly have delivered that SOTU speech. It was the right decision for him to step aside...even though it is clear now that he would still be the better President as we speak...need I recite all the examples of Chaos that DJT is wreaking?


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The debate wasn't the only time he showed incoherency...wise up

Author: MarkHarman (7275 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:02 am on Apr 3, 2025
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I realize you were somewhere else when God was handing out the logic gene but Ty, this take is ridiculous even for you.

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The SOTU Address was 3 months prior to the debate...watch it...especially from the 00:20:00 to the

Author: TyroneIrish (20384 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:32 am on Apr 3, 2025
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00:44:20 mark, but hopefully all of it...there was no dementia in March, and none in June of 2024...he was Exhausted...but recovered within days. Still, for political and physical reasons, it was right for him to step aside and support Kamala Harris...who also would have been a much better choice than what we're dealing with now.

Note also in the speech, JB's words about the bipartisan Senate Border Security and Immigration Bill, that had GOP Senator James Lankford nodding his head in agreement with...and note that there is still no effort from the Trump administration to pass legislation that would provide funding for all the fixes needed going forward, like Fentanyl Scanners for the thousands of vehicles passing through our checkpoints every day.




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He was drugged up for the State of the Union

Author: MarkHarman (7275 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:04 pm on Apr 3, 2025
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I know you think Baron is a quack, but in conversing privately with him I know his background and it's not inconsiderable.

Anyway he made the point that Biden was likely drugged up for that and medically laid out his reasons.

Come on. You're making a case for Biden based on one thing while ignoring the dozens of documented times he was out of it. Again, wise up. Even his own staff had to manage his dementia according to them.


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So what I'm hearing is that you agree JB's SOTU address showed no signs of dementia, at all...

Author: TyroneIrish (20384 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:04 pm on Apr 5, 2025
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...and all you can do is Make Up an accusation of drug use, without a shred of evidence. Sounds like something Baron would do...and has done before.

I'll remind you again that Baron is the guy who went on and on about how Ophthalmologists make more money than he did, with less effort, before addressing your posted concerns about an upcoming eye procedure, instead of just focusing on you. If that's the kind of "Bedside Manner" you prefer in a physician, then so be it...not the persona many others would like to see...or tolerate.


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Agree. Still feel Joe should've left on a high note and sat out '24.

Author: ND521 (9406 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 12:52 am on Apr 3, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Yah think? By the debate, he was non functioning.

Author: Frank L (64656 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:23 am on Apr 3, 2025
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In 2020 he saw himself as a "Bridge" President and I had expected him to follow through with that

Author: TyroneIrish (20384 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:54 am on Apr 3, 2025
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thought...but after doing an objectively good job in office...and faced with the same guy he beat before, he thought he could do it again...Coulda...Woulda...Shoulda.

Thread Level: 5

So out of touch. You gotta be a bot

Author: Frankx (5308 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 12:40 am on Apr 3, 2025
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If you think JB's 2024 SOTU Address was a demonstration of 'Dementia', you are the one who's out of

Author: TyroneIrish (20384 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:57 am on Apr 3, 2025
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touch with reality.

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Not surprised that he fell asleep by the pool. But, Holy crap, he is worse than I could think.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:45 pm on Apr 2, 2025
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I hope these insiders have mercy on this poor old man when they publish their books that reveal more embarrassing things. It's truly national disgrace. On the other hand its cover-up is criminal.

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