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Did Trump pull a bait and switch?

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:02 am on Apr 5, 2025
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He campaigned on fixing what everyone wanted ASAP, which is make thigs affordable again. Let me preface those who understand how the economy works knew prices wouldn't snap back to yesteryear w/o a recession. But now he says 1-3 year pain until gain, how do voters not see the fucking bait and switch and still have faith in the Mango Messiah?

Save all the "this is what they voted for BS" no it's not!!


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Thread Level: 2

No! Trump did exactly what he promised in campaign. He is the only leader with courage to do it.

Author: Eli (9482 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:39 am on Apr 5, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

Guess you failed math from whatever country you came from. Reciprocal means what over there?

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:53 am on Apr 5, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

??? No idea what you're talking about from your own thread.

Author: Eli (9482 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:59 am on Apr 5, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

Keep up Eli... I'll type slower

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:13 am on Apr 5, 2025
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The higher prices will be direct result of the "reciprocal" tariffs. Reciprocity means equal in effect however that's not what the tariffs are. They're the result of some Auto Magic math that's not mathin.

Thread Level: 6

Tarriff will raise price. If not raising the price, that means tariff doesn't work. But tariff will

Author: Eli (9482 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:24 am on Apr 5, 2025
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also raise production of importing country which creates jobs, independence and eventually benefits consumers.

Thread Level: 7

Thank you for eventually agreeing with me that Trump lied on bringing prices down now.

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 1:40 pm on Apr 5, 2025
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Voters didn't ask for even higher prices now with the possibility of the lower in three to four years.

Thread Level: 8

No. In reality most countries will negotiate with US. The new deal will result in no tarriffs

Author: Eli (9482 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:29 pm on Apr 5, 2025
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increase on their imports to US, but these countries will lower tariff on US exports to their countries and/or they will increase US exports to their countries. That's why we always say Trump intends to use tariff as a tool for better deals. You knew that. I told you quite a few months ago. Yes, some products in some countries don't belong to the deals. They're not negotiatable because we intend to bring them back to US and make thrm made in US. We intend to rebuild manufacture in US.

Thread Level: 9

Crazy how you have such blind faith broham. Aren't you the one who says you're not a Trumper?

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 4:34 pm on Apr 5, 2025
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Again I'll remind you Trump touted how he negotiated such a great trade deal with USMCA only to trash it 4 years later.

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Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:07 pm on Apr 6, 2025
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And here I thought fixing decades of lack of will to do the tough things would be easy.

Author: NedoftheHill (44326 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:48 am on Apr 5, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

Fixing it? Bwahahahaha. You mean making it worse.

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:37 am on Apr 5, 2025
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He’s gonna add 20 trillion in 10 years. And the tariffs are an abomination for his own voting base.

Thread Level: 4

You think DOGE is just a smoke screen to increase spending?

Author: NedoftheHill (44326 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:54 pm on Apr 5, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 5

I know what the numbers say. I have my own thoughts on the subject, but they are speculation.

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:09 pm on Apr 6, 2025
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If he was serious about cutting the debt, DOGE would not be the way to go about it. But he’s not. Again, the numbers don’t lie.

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Thread Level: 3

Round 1 of Trump was fixing the trade imbalance and he made it worse.

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:24 am on Apr 5, 2025
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Now Round 2 he thinks going more extreme with made up formulas will make it better?

Thread Level: 2

Maybe we need another "Inflation Reduction Act".

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:41 am on Apr 5, 2025
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Which is now estimated to cost more than $1 trillion over the next 10 years and between $2 trillion and $4 trillion by 2050, and did absolutely nothing to reduce inflation. Ya know, a bait and switch.

What Trump should be doing now is negotiating with our allies (and Mexico with pressure to fix their damn country) for truly free trade, no tariffs. But I fear he really thinks we can go back to 1913 where the government is funded by tariffs and no income tax.

And then he needs to push to return the federal budget back to 2019 level: $4.4T. The 2024 federal revenue was $4.9T, this would be a surplus of $0.5T. I think we could survive at the 2019 level, even with the additional interest. Plenty of fat to trim (and pigs squeal).


https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Tariff-Rates_Global-Avg_02-web.jpg

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Thread Level: 3

Went straight to wahtaboutism, cool. Didn't Trump negotiate and come up with USMCA?

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:29 am on Apr 5, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

You brought up bait and switch as if it was a new phenomenon.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:02 am on Apr 5, 2025
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You guys celebrated the "Inflation Reduction Act", own your vote.

Thread Level: 5

How was the IRA a bait and switch, please explain?

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:17 am on Apr 5, 2025
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Thread Level: 6

It was called the "Inflation Reduction Act" and did no such thing, for starters.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:42 am on Apr 5, 2025
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They said it would cost $370B and is now estimated to cost 3-4X that amount over 10 years and even more in the future.

Since you seem confused as to what "bait and switch" means, here's a definition: First, the merchant "baits" the customer by advertising a product or service at a low price; then when the customer goes to purchase the item, they discover that it is unavailable, and the merchant pressures them instead to purchase a similar but more expensive product ("switching").

So, they baited us with the promise of a reduction in inflation (at a time when the public was desperate for it), sold it at a modest cost and then the switch is what we actually got, no inflation reduction and much higher costs. Get it?


Thread Level: 7

Inflation went down whether directly or indirectly of the IRA

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 1:37 pm on Apr 5, 2025
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You still seem to be confused on describing the actual bait and switch? Who was baited?

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Thread Level: 8

Economists are pretty unanimous that it had little to no effect.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:00 pm on Apr 5, 2025
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I explained it pretty clearly, but you're not getting it, so good luck to you sir.

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