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It is an objective, indisputable fact: never in the history of the world has there been a global push to administer an experimental medicine to all of humanity, billions of us, at the same time.

I want you to stop and reflect on that. Imagine the hubris it required both to carry out this plan and to propagandize the world to carry it out.

“Hubris?” you ask. “What do you mean?”



The Covid vaccines are experimental. The FDA has not approved them. Most vaccines require years to test and approve, in no small part because we want to make sure they don’t have dangerous long-term side effects, which they can have; the CDC has published a list of problems with selected approved vaccines. Many experimental vaccines never make it out of the experimental phase. CNN made similar points back when Trump was, wrongheadedly (I thought so at the time) pushing for rapid approval of the Covid vaccines. Of course, the mercurial news organization hastened to forget all that when the Biden administration decided rapid vaccine deployment was a good idea. They shouldn’t have: for all the good they certainly have done, physicians warn us that vaccines can be dangerous for some, and experimental vaccines are, naturally, even more so.

Again, my point is simple and absolutely factual. Again:

experimental vaccine

billions of people (over two billion)

at the same time

You have to be willing to trust the welfare of billions of people not just to the honesty of our leaders and scientists—because things can go wrong for decent people. You must also trust their competence—and not just that, because competent people can make surprising, unforeseeable mistakes. You must also trust that we avoided the worst, that we dodged a bullet, and that they actually succeeded in making a more or less safe vaccine.

Of course, maybe they did. I sure hope so. But what if we discover some horrifically high incidence of catastrophic side-effects that do not show up for two or five or ten years? Scientists tell us that that is possible. It is unfortunately possible that more people will die from these experimental vaccines than would have died from a virus that kills fewer than 1% of those who contract it.

Do not misunderstand me. I am not claiming that is happening. I am not even saying that it is terribly likely. I am saying it is possible, because these are experimental vaccines.

Frankly, the hubris required for carrying out this plan, and for taking the lead in propagandizing the world to carry it out, is jaw-dropping and scary to me. If a world leader is willing to take such gambles with all of humanity, what else are they prepared to do? I really wonder. If suddenly you became a president or top medical system leader or media organization owner, would you want to take an action that, if you were wrong, might spell the death of millions? First, do no harm. We haven’t heard that old medical byword very much recently.

My family received our childhood vaccinations, by the way, with no issues. I am not an anti-vaxxer. I am an anti-global-all-at-once-experimental-vaxxer. There is a big difference.

This is not even to touch the question whether these experimental vaccines should be mandated, i.e., if you should lose your basic civil rights if you fail to be vaccinated. Maybe I will write about that question, definitely a non-medical question, separately another time. There is indeed much, much more to say.

But my present point is simple: experimental vaccine—billions of people—at the same time. It utterly boggles the mind that so many otherwise reasonable people have been influenced to think this is a good idea.

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video clip in which Biden starts his announcements at the 33:40 mark...

Biden covered a range of important announcements, including...
>Senate passage of his Infrastructure Bill...a big deal...not sure how you missed posting that.
>943K new jobs in July...another big deal...how'd you miss it?
>Increasing job growth every month since taking office...not newsworthy?
>Unemployment now at 5.4%...how'd you miss that?
>COVID...165M fully vaccinated...no mention by you...

All of this, and more, very well communicated by JB..

What you did find "newsworthy" was Biden reading a card that said 350M 'vaccinated'...which as Protagonist observed, is an easy slip by anyone, including a staffer...350M shots were taken by Americans seeking to be vaccinated...

All of us objective and rational folks get the message and understand when Joe first says 165M fully vaccinated, that the latter number of 350M is total shots administered in an environment where two shots are usually required...we move right along...but for you, that is 'prima facie' evidence of 'dementia'...it is not...it is, rather, evidence of political "Obsession" by you and those who join with you...

Heaven forbid that anyone's attention be drawn to the very real accomplishments of this administration...but we know how the game is being played and await your next "Drive By" newscast.


Link: https://youtu.be/hFFZlj3Zbhg

Wait a minute, you're bragging about this infrastructure bill? Why?

Also, I asked a question before that you haven't answered: why are you so sensitive about poking fun at Joe's cognitive invalidity, beyond political tribalism?

already delivered effective legislation on COVID relief that is paying dividends with wide availability of vaccines...enough for all Americans, right now...consistent job growth (943K in July)...a bi-partisan Infrastructure Bill passed in the Senate committee (after zero progress in the previous four years), which no "Handler" could have pulled off...

Joe Biden has a 'Fund of Knowledge' that is second to none in D.C....he knows all the key players very well, both domestically and internationally, and how they work. There's a reason why Trump (with help from Putin) tried so hard to discredit him - to the point of getting impeached over it...Biden represented the biggest threat to him (and Putin).

Every day you should say a prayer of thanksgiving that Donald Trump is no longer President.


Edit: Senate "committee" approval thus far...(still progress, where there was none before).

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that one in the 2022 mid-terms when over two-thirds of the country wants it...NOW!...and it doesn't raise taxes...but, stranger things have happened.

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helped the situation.

You should have read our friend in the old days when he thought Palin was an existential threat to America and was giving me shit for voting for Mac over Barry because of her. He pooh poohed any issues with Joey then. That was before his obsession with wokeism and racism against whites. He’s just off the chain these days.

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That’s what you will never get.

It wasn’t just that he sent out mean tweets.

He was also also an authoritarian narcissistic demagogue who didn’t believe in our system and tried to undermine it. And he was incompetent. And yes he was also an asshole, incoherent dick, awful human being who assaulted 17+ women.

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just began on 1/20. You can’t make such people up. Nah he has no agenda, yet he stayed silent for 4 years when the most garbled and untrue shite came out of the prez and his cohorts. Chlorox cocktails anyone?

“Just a slip of the tongue might have worked about a 100 times ago, but not anymore. Biden is clearly not in full command of his faculties.

a speech impediment...a condition that I'd expect you to have sympathy for...he obviously 'slurred' the words and didn't clearly enunciate "...in the United States"...you would have to be a craven anti-Biden attacker to think otherwise.

trying to play this.

impression that he doesn't...plus, you compound your misleading "Drive By" with a total disregard for all the well-communicated positive information he gave in his announcements...pure political 'hackery' on your part.

You can have the last word on this, if you'd like...by now, all reasonably minded readers got the true picture, and I've learned that you will never bend to that reality...so, no thread lock for me ;-).

You play endless games here. Others see it. Accusing others of what you do doesn't reflect well on you and you shouldn't be proud of this. A good example is that game you're trying to play above with Knute. You're trying to bait him into an argument that is unrelated to the topic of the thread by throwing out a strawman. I don't know why you behave like this. I would consider changing it and reflect on why you react so poorly to lampooning of Joe.

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Check out the attached article from Bloomberg...btw, the vast majority of doses administered in the U.S. have been the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, which require 2 doses for full vaccination....since ~165M Americans are fully vaccinated, the 350M doses administered number is very reasonable when adding in the one dose J&J vaccine.

Link: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

Not doses. But generally I give presidents a pass with this type of thing especially since he was reading it off a card.

allow the real message to get through...never an objective thought for the common good.

Is there a reason, beyond tribal instincts, that you're so touchy about Joe's cognitive impairment?

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Just hook onto that underlying message, which changes from day-to-day. Smart people understand all this.

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people are bewildered by the speech and behavior of the millions of dumb people who won't get with the program. Curious.

But if only we talk to and explain things to them in the right way.......bwahahahahahaha.

Some things can’t be fixed. Dumbasses are one of them. Just accept it and try to keep them away from everyone else while they infect each other.

Not unless Joe has a senile assistant who composes his mushmouth babble and gibberish for him.

The thought of him teaching kids is getting even scarier as his obsession grows.

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the United States. Then again, when it comes to pretending that Joe is not cognitively invalid, no amount of stretching, contorting or just plain lying is off-limits.

Knute's phrase should be the standards response to these antics: Don't piss on my back and tell me it's raining.

"Israelis who were vaccinated were 6.72 times more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection."

Still, it's far better to get vaccinated since most new cases are among the unvaccinated AND because even "break thru" infections lead to very mild if any symptoms.


Link: https://newsrescue.com/delta-variant-natural-immunity-700-greater-protection-than-shot-data-from-israeli-govt-shows/

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had just done the intelligent thing. Personally I would get the shots even if previously infected, but there is at least an argument for not doing so. The other plague rats have zero argument for their willful refusal to protect themselves and their fellow citizens.

Or do feel the CCP has the correct approach on this issue... and maybe most?

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