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If Biden were prez, India would have never attacked Pakistan.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:58 pm on May 6, 2025
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Thread Level: 2

It's all Vance's fault.. he's a walking jinx.

Author: Curly1918 (16163 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:12 am on May 7, 2025
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He broke the National Championship trophy, then visited the Pope who died the next day, then visited India and a terrorist attack happened and war broke out, then endorsed his brother for mayor who lost 83-11%.

I suggest exiling him to Alcatraz but I'm sure this would trigger the San Andreas.


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Because Biden were prez, India can attack Pakistan now.

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:18 pm on May 6, 2025
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This is reported by Ukraine.

Link: https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/05/05/pakistan-faces-ammunition-shortages-amid-tensions-with-india-due-to-large-underground-exports-to-ukraine/

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You mean because Putin decided to attack Ukraine and they were able to fight it off?

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:35 am on May 7, 2025
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If Trump were prez, there would have never been Ukraine-Russia war. You got it.

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:35 am on May 7, 2025
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If Trump were president m, no weapons from Pakistan to Ukraine; No weapons from south Korea to Ukraine, therefore no Russia's counter-measure to give north korea military real war opportunity and experience.

There were more bad things that warmongering Biden did which had and will have consequences in the future such as bribing Turkey so that Erdoğan wouldn't say no in voting for NATO membership of Finland and Sweden. This one will bite back at us someday. Bisen's US paid too much for the war he provoked.


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Complete bullshit. Explain why Putin would not have invaded if Mango was prez.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:44 am on May 7, 2025
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Trump would say openly and loudly, no NATO membership for Ukraine, in response to the letter from

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:13 am on May 7, 2025
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Putin before the war.

This is mostly consensus view that this war would not have happened if Trump were president.


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Are you kidding? There was no active movement to add Ukraine to NATO. He didn’t invade due to NATO.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:21 am on May 7, 2025
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He invaded because like his philosophical mentor he believes Ukraine is part of Russia and not an independent nation and that he could win fast.

You think Mango would have supported Ukraine stronger than Biden or that Putin feared him? Get a grip.


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Hundreds posts/links on this nato subject in last 3 years on this board. No need to repeat it and

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:07 pm on May 7, 2025
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I don't think you're genuine in what you're talking about anyway. But let me kill this argument on this nato membership/Ukraine neutrality once for all by citing one fact: Istanbul treaty that Ukraine intended to sign at beginning but walked away in 2022, a few months after war. Istanbul treaty is centered on no NATO membership for Ukraine and neutrality for Ukraine.
This fact shows this nato thing is the main reason of this war.


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Has absolutely nothing to do with why Putin invaded his neighbor. Read the comments made before the

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:48 pm on May 7, 2025
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invasion about how Ukraine wasn’t a legitimate nation state.

In addition what Ukraine was allegedly willing to agree to before the war (which if Putin knew would have removed the necessity for the war by your logic) would obviously be significantly different after the invasion and occupation of parts of their nation. Do better fool.


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Your denial is truly corrupted. You have no single fact to support your denial.

Author: Eli (9473 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:37 pm on May 7, 2025
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Link: https://x.com/ivan_8848/status/1893640093866377510

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Except the ones I cited and the statements he made about Ukraine not being an independent nation

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:15 pm on May 7, 2025
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before invasion. Give it up commie, protester killer.

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India is more akin to Israel after Gaza attack than Russia in this scenario.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:28 pm on May 6, 2025
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But please, don't let facts get in your way. I know you need this particular "win."

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Win? More like pointing out the stupidity of the MAGA movt.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:05 pm on May 6, 2025
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But your analogy of India to Russia fails in this instance, so your point fails as well.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:38 pm on May 6, 2025
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There's always tomorrow, though.

The "MAGA movt" is right about Russia, though, so your point fails on that ground as well. Putin only aggressed under weaker, more predictable regimes who would only initially offer Ukraine blankets or Ukraine's leader safe passage out of the country. That eliminated much of the risk (e.g., the risk presented by the US) of invading Ukraine.

There are better things regarding which to criticize Trump. For example, the movie tariff comments are pretty stupid (IMO).


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Incorrect. The invasion had nothing to with who was prez.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:57 am on May 7, 2025
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Just like here the attack had nothing to do with it either.

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You miss the point.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:53 am on May 7, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Uhm no, you do. Neither of these events depended upon who was US president.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:27 am on May 7, 2025
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You want some proof? Mango has forcefully proposed a cease fire. Putin says nyet. No ceasefire until Putin wants one. He really fears Mango. You truly delude yourself with your ridiculous assertion that Putin feared Orange reacting more aggressively to defend Ukraine. What did Vlad fear that Helsinki Don would do?

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We disagree, and history supports me not you. But your analogy is reverse what it should be.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:43 am on May 7, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Saying that doesn’t make it so. You can’t logically explain how Mango in the WH would have deterred

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:48 am on May 7, 2025
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what Putin felt was in Russia’s interest to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dead bodies.

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Hunter Biden!s laptop.

Author: jimbasil (52300 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:52 am on May 7, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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I agree! If only MSNBC would use this as a talking point 24/7.

Author: jimbasil (52300 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:02 pm on May 6, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Whenever there is a war between 2 other nations it’s always. the fault

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:05 pm on May 6, 2025
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of the US prez in office.

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