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Commentary by a Critical Care Physician on RFK Jr.'s "MAHA" program...

Author: TyroneIrish (19771 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:51 pm on May 13, 2025
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"Our health care system has failed patients when it comes to preventing and managing chronic diseases such as diabetes, heart disease and obesity. I see the consequences every day. We tell our patients to diet and exercise when they do not have the time or financial resources to do so. Once a patient has a heart attack or a stroke, our system will deliver excellent care, but then we leave the recovery to beleaguered family members.

What would it take to end the chronic disease epidemic in children and adults as our new health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has promised? I scan my patient list at the long-term-care hospital. In a given day, I’ve cared for a woman whose years of smoking led to a lung transplant, a relatively young man whose severe obesity required a tracheotomy tube to help him breathe and a low-income man in his 60s with heart disease. That man is now on a ventilator and dialysis after a risky surgery to open his blocked arteries. He just wants to go home, but he’s frustrated with medical interventions that make him feel worse instead of better.

One recent morning, curiosity led me to a video promoting Mr. Kennedy’s Make America Healthy Again movement. With the hospital’s cacophony of ventilator and heart rate monitor sounds in the background, I watched Mr. Kennedy stand in a grassy field and promise to find and target the root causes of chronic illness — with few actual specifics.

I thought about my patient on the ventilator. He worked long hours as a bus driver. Presumably his primary care doctor had told him to exercise or to change his diet, but when was he supposed to do that? He knew he was overweight and had developed diabetes, but he did not have the time or money to make healthy home-cooked meals. How was he to combat the effects of stress and poor sleep? And then, when he started to feel short of breath, how was he supposed to know that was a symptom of his failing heart and not simply the consequence of being overweight?

There is no single factor that could have reversed his fate. The poorest among us endure the highest burden of disease. Mr. Kennedy will find the root cause of chronic disease not in patterns of vaccination but in the realities of poverty, pollution, racial disparities and access to primary care. We know that obesity is a risk factor for so much disease, but we make effective obesity drugs financially unreachable to so many. Mr. Kennedy’s video shows a picture-perfect family enjoying a large salad at an outdoor picnic table. But realistically, overwhelming social change is needed if we can ever hope to make that a daily reality for everyone — especially those who must work more than one shift, seven days a week.

By the time I see my patients as a critical care doctor, it is often so late in the course of their disease that the best I can do is treat their symptoms versus offer a cure. To truly reverse the development of chronic disease, we have to start in childhood, with access to healthful food and exercise and clean air and high-quality health care. There is no reason school lunches should contain lots of ultraprocessed foods. I don’t know any physician who disagrees with Mr. Kennedy’s assertion that the American diet is horribly broken. But it is troubling that the MAHA movement’s proclamations come at a time when the Trump administration has made massive cuts to health care workers in public health agencies and has threatened the structure of the National Institutes of Health’s research funding. Republicans are entertaining huge cuts to Medicaid, which provides health care to over 70 million low-income Americans.

Looking at the positive public response to the MAHA movement, it is increasingly clear to me that modern medicine has done itself a disservice by focusing less on health and more on treating disease once it has reached a crisis point. Patients don’t want to just survive their stroke; they want to feel like themselves again. Longevity researchers increasingly talk about health span in contrast to life span — what’s important are not just the number of years lived but the number of years in good health. These are the outcomes that matter to people.

Mr. Kennedy seems to have gained the support of many Americans who have felt disregarded by the medical establishment. If he uses that trust to motivate people to make healthier choices and uses his position to drive the social changes needed to support those choices, then he has done us a service. I worry, however, that all of his pseudoscience, the criticism of antidepressants and weight-loss medications and the anti-vaccine statements will overshadow everything else.

Medicine is nothing without public trust. We can order treatments, but they are useless if our patients choose not to take them. We can make thoughtful recommendations, but they are helpful only if our patients listen to them and have access to the tools to follow through. Those of us in health care worry that the MAHA movement will only increase the numbers of patients who inadvertently harm themselves by forsaking tested, traditional medicine because they do not believe the data or their doctor.

But perhaps we can learn from what appeals to our patients about it. We need to find out what matters most to our patients and fight for it. That will require more from our government institutions than vague promises. For MAHA to become more than a slogan, we need real social change. Only then can we hope for a country that is healthier rather than sicker."

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Addressing our shameful national Income/Wealth Inequality is the best prescription for healing so. many of our Ills...sadly, Donald J. Trump could care less.


Replies to: Commentary by a Critical Care Physician on RFK Jr.'s "MAHA" program...


Thread Level: 2

A healthcare chief with zero expertise in healthcare picked a loser. Imagine that.

Author: ND521 (9269 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 5:23 pm on May 13, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Author: Hensou (8015 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:21 pm on May 13, 2025
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You just outlined the case for MAHA and functional medicine.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:20 pm on May 13, 2025
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But the excuse that "I don't have time or money to make my own meals" is complete bullshit. It costs way less and takes almost no time to pack a healthy meal vs eating out every meal.

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Try dealing with the real world, like that practicing Physician does, every day.

Author: TyroneIrish (19771 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:41 pm on May 13, 2025
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Read what she has to say...including the part where she and others have consistently counseled their patients on proper diets and exercise...it's clearly not enough...especially for those with barely enough money and time. The hard reality is that the majority of those with chronic health problems are poor people...you should know this.

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If we take the bullshit out of fast food and packaged food, that's a good start.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:01 pm on May 13, 2025
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I live in the real world Tyrone, I have my entire life. Remember when I told you I worked 40+ hrs a week while out for sports in HS? I packed a lunch.

Thread Level: 4

This physician is not a lifestyle or economics expert

Author: MarkHarman (7243 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:58 pm on May 13, 2025
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How many poor people eat out a lot? A ton (pun unintended). They would rather eat the 20-piece KFC bucket instead of doing what my family does, which is make macaroni, Ramen noodles and other low-cost options. I can make a turkey wrap sandwich in a soft tortilla circle-thingy for very low cost - healthy and low calorie.

No time to exercise? B.S. But they have plenty of time to spend mindless hours a day on their phone or plopped in front of a TV set.

Poor obese people are obese because they lack discipline, period...which also explains in large part why they're also poor. Quit making victims of people who are where they are by their own choices.


Thread Level: 5

He's in favor of this:

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:09 pm on May 13, 2025
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https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/jessamyn-1608131316.png?resize=980

Thread Level: 3

A lot of people need to learn better time management.

Author: wrdomerson (2255 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:29 pm on May 13, 2025
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You can meal prep healthy meals for the week on a day you have the time for it, if you know and plan it for yourself. The same thing with working out. You don't have time for it when you don't prioritize it. Yet we find ways to binge watch hours of television every night.

Thread Level: 4

Yep, it's a "poor me" excuse that snowballs.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:57 pm on May 13, 2025
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So your solution to a very real problem is to not lift a finger and instead just belittle and

Author: TyroneIrish (19771 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:25 pm on May 13, 2025
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denounce them...is that what I'm hearing?

Thread Level: 6

Lifting a finger to make yourself a salad and lifting a dumbbell is exactly what I am calling for.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:16 pm on May 13, 2025
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As the physician noted, that message is already being delivered… but not having

Author: TyroneIrish (19771 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:01 pm on May 13, 2025
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the necessary effect…what else you got?

Thread Level: 8

You were just excusing that behavior.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:07 pm on May 13, 2025
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Not Excusing...Acknowledging. What is your solution to the chronic health problems in the U.S...

Author: TyroneIrish (19771 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:48 pm on May 13, 2025
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just criticism of their behavior...that's it?

Thread Level: 10

Just admit your article was stupid and you can't defend it.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:39 am on May 14, 2025
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There are plenty of changes we can make with food additives, determining root causes, eliminating or reducing toxins and inflammatory ingredients, SNAP, school lunch programs, and education. Functional medicine and MAHA are the solution. Can we force people to choose a salad, obviously not. But that isn't RFK Jr's fault.

You should listen to Casey Means talk, our medical schools almost completely ignore nutrition which is at the heart of what ails our population. Functional medicine, what you call "Quackery", addresses this root cause with evidence based interventions and approaches.

Our entire regulatory apparatus is captured and controlled by big ag, big food (ABCD), and big pharma. RFK Jr is targeting this, like no one before.

Your lunatic party was promoting "healthy at any weight" which obviously is complete bullshit. And here you were trying to make the case that people can't afford or don't have time to eat healthier, bullshit. Two slices of bread, peanut butter and a banana is way healthier than McDs and costs way less and could be made in the time it took standing in line at the feedlot.


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How about RFK Jr. organizing "Americorps" type programs across the country that foster

Author: TyroneIrish (19771 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:57 pm on May 13, 2025
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healthier lifestyles?...Oh, wait...DOGE is in the process of gutting Americorps...shucks...looks like we won't be Walking the Talk when it comes to actually Doing something to help Americans live healthier lives...and reduce the need for costly medical interventions when they don't.

Btw, RFK Jr. should tell DJT to get out of his golf cart...have a SS Agent caddy for him...and walk 18 holes each time he wants to play golf...would be a Win-Win for DJT and the American public to see that. Heaven knows Trump has the time for some exercise.


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Thread Level: 5

If people don't have enough time to throw a salad together, how are they going to participate in AC?

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:59 pm on May 13, 2025
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You're sounding more and more like a Libertarian...lots of critiques, but very short on solutions,

Author: TyroneIrish (19771 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:55 pm on May 13, 2025
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...you can't come up with anything better than fat shaming?

Link: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/obesity-and-poverty

Thread Level: 7

Here's a solution: eliminate junk food and fast food from SNAP.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:53 am on May 14, 2025
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We could provide boxes of healthier foods to poor people for a fraction of the cost, but that would reduce political campaign donations from corporations.

I grew up in poverty, the idea that poor people are eating out every meal is completely foreign to me. It was rare, and a treat for me growing up because it is way more expensive than making meals. If we're subsidizing that behavior, it needs to stop.


Thread Level: 8

You don't waste much time on research, do you?...

Author: TyroneIrish (19771 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:53 am on May 14, 2025
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SNAP benefits are not for McD's (see link). Notre that the GOP House is proposing to cut SNAP benefits desperately Needed by the poor among us, while at the same time serving the Wants of the wealthiest

How about states like So. Carolina raising the minimum wage...or even having one? That just might put more healthy food on the table and less need for volunteers (e.g. my wife and I) at Food Banks serving hundreds of people a week. It would also put a dent in the ever expanding Wealth Gap we have in the U.S..

That Critical Care Doc is exposing a root cause as to why the USA is not as healthy as it could be...but selfish MAGAs don't want to admit to it.


Link: https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/eligible-food-items

Thread Level: 9

Why would more money lead to healthier choices?

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:25 am on May 14, 2025
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Here's some research:

One day of eating at McDonalds:
Breakfast - Sausage McMuffin with Egg Meal - $10.59
Lunch - Big Mac meal - $9.29
Dinner - Deluxe Crispy Chicken Sandwich meal - $9.15
Total: $29.03

A whole week of packing your lunch:
Eggs - $3.94
Bread - $2.14
Sliced Cheese - $2.24
Shredded Cheese - $1.97
Sliced Turkey - $4.48
Peanut Butter - $2.98
Milk - $2.54
Butter - $3.96
Bananas - $2.26
Iceberg Lettuce - $1.72
Total $28.23

Eating out for all of your meals is not just very unhealthy, its economically stupid.


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You now realize that SNAP doesn't pay for McD's...right? So, what is your solution for poor

Author: TyroneIrish (19771 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:22 am on May 15, 2025
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nutrition choices?

Going back to Ms. Means...her embrace of Functional Medicine seems to place it, in her mind, over Traditional Medicine, when it really should be an 'Adjunct' to TM..for reasons noted in the attached article..."6 Big Problems With Functional Medicine".


Link: https://www.restartmed.com/downsides-to-functional-medicine/?srsltid=AfmBOoqaeIT0LBhb9P6A9xIfm7MgCao-wib7jyqt8zFQ7DVj7t-nZ-qZ

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