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Who’s in favor of eliminating nationwide injunctions?…

Author: Domer From Hell (15869 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:46 pm on May 15, 2025
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Trump is. Do you think the federal branch should go unchecked?

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Thread Level: 2

Me. They are abusing it. Let the SCOTUS decide,

Author: BaronVonZemo (58951 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:32 am on May 16, 2025
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I would have them go thru an emergency/expedited appeal BEFORE they can go into effect

Author: Curly1918 (16211 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 6:00 am on May 16, 2025
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Maybe to SCOTUS. The Circuits are also too ripe for forum shopping.

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Only until the end of Trump’s 3rd term

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4606 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:09 am on May 16, 2025
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Actually, I’m a firm believer in the Separation of Powers doctrine.

Thread Level: 2

By "federal branch" do you mean POTUS? COTUS? Agencies? Interestingly, this cuts both ways (R/L).

Author: NedoftheHill (44338 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:37 pm on May 15, 2025
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After all, there have been nationwide injunctions against unconstitutional or unlawful ATF decisions, and the Right has needed those decisions to check an otherwise unchecked POTUS/bureaucracy making up rules that Congress never authorized them to make. So, even if Trump wins on this approach, it is not a clear victory for the Right. So, it really isn't a partisan left vs. right issue. It is a structural/process issue regarding how our Republic operates.

So, the issue is, unchecked elected POTUS / bureaucrats vs. unchecked, unelected regional judges having national effect with their pronouncements coupled with forum shopping / a race to the most favorable courthouses.

Seems like there should be room for compromise. Maybe injunctions which are immediately appealable to SCOTUS?...requiring their decision to make it national or to restrict POTUS, and limiting it to local effect if not ratified by SCOTUS. But, wow, that would substantially increase the workload for SCOTUS. I don't know the answer. I do know that I would like POTUS to be implementing policy, and the courts to be implementing process limitations. But, given the race to the favorable courthouse, we have unelected judges implementing policy, and that seems like a bad idea. At lease we can vote POTUS out of office.

I'm open to other ideas on this. I'm not trying to take a partisan stand here.


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Thread Level: 3

POTUS of course. And I agree with Chris. No compromise.

Author: Domer From Hell (15869 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:06 pm on May 15, 2025
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No compromise. It’s the system. The executive cannot overrule the judiciary. Full stop.

Author: Chris94 (36510 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:45 pm on May 15, 2025
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It can appeal lower court decisions. It cannot ignore them.

If the courts are ignored by the president whenever he disagrees, we are no longer a nation of laws.


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I'm curious of you supported the Democrat proposal to pack the Court?

Author: NedoftheHill (44338 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:24 am on May 16, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Congress can pass laws regarding the structure and jurisdiction of the courts.

Author: NedoftheHill (44338 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:23 am on May 16, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Which is the answer cept that they are completely gutless.

Author: Frank L (64114 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:37 am on May 16, 2025
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Congress is gutless. We agree. It has long given too much authority to the Executive Branch.

Author: NedoftheHill (44338 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:16 pm on May 16, 2025
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Whichever executive orders the GOP fails to enact into law (as opposed to just leaving them be EO's), then those EO's will just be reversed when the current elected dictator leaves DC, and the next elected dictator from the other party steps into office. The Legislative Branch needs to reclaim its constitutional powers that has ceded to the Executive Branch.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Yet you believe the judiciary can shut down the executive without due process.

Author: PaND (2642 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 4:19 am on May 16, 2025
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Of course, you love leftist judges.

Thread Level: 5

The Board’s Due Process expert has weighed in. Thanks for making our day, PA.

Author: conorlarkin (20792 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:55 am on May 16, 2025
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Truly adorable.

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No need to be an expert to prove you wrong.

Author: PaND (2642 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 8:10 am on May 16, 2025
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Keep losing.

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It should only if the injunction goes against the MAGA cause.

Author: Quest4twelve (6501 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:48 pm on May 15, 2025
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