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"Why Biden may not have known about his aggressive prostate cancer until recently."...

Author: TyroneIrish (19882 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:03 pm on May 20, 2025
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...from the attached article...and as posted earlier...
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PSA levels may not have been checked

One screening test for prostate cancer involves a blood test that measures the level of prostate-specific antigens, which are proteins made by cells in the prostate gland.

Although there is no cutoff level that clearly indicates the presence of cancer, many doctors use a cutoff of 4 nanograms per milliliter to recommend further tests with a urologist, according to the American Cancer Society.

For an advanced form of cancer like Biden's, a recent PSA test would have likely shown elevated levels.

However, the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force recommends against PSA-based screening for men age 70 and older due to harms such as false positives leading to more tests or a diagnosis of problems that would not have caused symptoms or death.
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Link: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/biden-aggressive-prostate-cancer-recently/story?id=121957364

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Thread Level: 2

With the best medical care in the World? Ridiculous

Author: lmcdonald (1257 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2020)

Posted at 10:46 am on May 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

Nothing 'Ridiculous' about it...I've looked at the Mayo Clinic, Harvard, Stanford Medical websites

Author: TyroneIrish (19882 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:55 am on May 21, 2025
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for their recommendations on PSA testing for men over 70 yrs of age...also, I Googled that question and got studies from several sources...ALL recommending that PSA testing be stopped for most men after that age. This is not a political issue...every one of us guys has to deal with that prospect and we should be Fully Informed on WHY that recommendation is the Best Medical Advice you can get...You're Welcome, lmc.

Thread Level: 2

I feel sorry for that old man who they used and took complete control over. Cancer in his bones now.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17163 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 4:15 pm on May 20, 2025
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God how awful. He was a terrible leader but God Bless him.

Thread Level: 3

The facts tell a different story when it comes to JB's performance as President...because of his

Author: TyroneIrish (19882 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:58 pm on May 20, 2025
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many years in Congress and reputation for being not only a really nice guy (e.g. video accolade from Lindsey Graham to that effect) but also someone who could be trusted, he got several very meaningful and long overdue bipartisan bills passed that benefitted everyone in the nation...not just Democrats. JB also brought smiles and confidence in the eyes of Allies across the globe...while he also made it abundantly clear to our adversaries that the USA would not fail to stand up for Democracy...btw, Putin knew this and it's why he colluded with Trump to keep Biden from winning the 2020 election.

Even at his age, JB is and was a better man...and President than Trump could ever be...and the Record proves it. If you disagree, I'd be happy to engage you on any measure you'd like.


Thread Level: 4

Well, that settles it. Biden was a perfect president and all Democrats are perfect people...again

Author: MarkHarman (7253 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:25 pm on May 20, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

Show us all where I called Biden, or all Democrats "Perfect"...that's a rhetorical question...

Author: TyroneIrish (19882 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:35 pm on May 20, 2025
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the fact of the matter is that JB and his Democratic administration performed extremely well...better than most...during his term in office. Certainly better than Donald Trump, and I'm happy to debate that with you if you'd like.

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Thread Level: 2

Like cheeks, I question the timing! The timing of this announcement is way too convenient.

Author: Eli (9501 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:03 pm on May 20, 2025
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Why would you question the timing?...when would be a "Good Time" to make such an announcement?...

Author: TyroneIrish (19882 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:33 pm on May 20, 2025
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While we're at it, here's another question...given that many, if not most, medical experts in the field of Prostate Cancer Research advise that men over 70 not be tested for PC due to potential harms from False Positives, or Poor Side Effects impacting patients' Quality of Life...do you believe that there was a "Cover Up" involving unreported PSA tests for JB?...and if so, Why...and on what basis?

Thread Level: 4

Your favorite host from your favorite TV channel answered your question on timing. On PSA screening,

Author: Eli (9501 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:12 pm on May 20, 2025
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You assumed Biden didn't take PSA test regularly and defended him using some doctors' explanation. How do you know that? The fact is there is no mention of Biden's PSA level and test. Both you and people who criticized Biden for not taking PSA test are just speculating.

Link: https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1924250135103766980

Thread Level: 5

Your words, not mine...Brian Stelter is free to express his own suspicions as to why JB's cancer

Author: TyroneIrish (19882 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:30 pm on May 20, 2025
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diagnosis was announced around the same time as that book hit the shelves...but in truth, only Joe knows and for me, I could care less about the timing, and am more concerned about his current and future well being.

Regarding PSA screening, in the media and on this board there has been a rush to assume that those tests must have been conducted and therefore covered up...as my link shows, that's not at all the case with most Men's Health Programs. I'm just correcting such peoples' uninformed assumptions and explaining why they might not have been conducted...(BTW, note the words in my OP..."Why Biden may not have known ..I never made a claim of certainty one way or another, so stop trying to put words in other people's mouths...it's call "Lying".


Thread Level: 6

The only person on this board who mentioned PSA before you is Conor. Why didn't you respond him?

Author: Eli (9501 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:04 pm on May 20, 2025
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Instead you asked me about my opinion on PSA in response to my "timing" post (which is typical your fashion, introducing new topic irrelevant to the topic you responded) and now accused others on PSA issue. Actually the only person who mentioned PSA before your post is Conor. If you have an ounce of integrity please apologize to people on this board who you made groundless claim they used PSA on coverup issue.

Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=250055

Thread Level: 7

I've addressed your post about "Timing"...again, only JB knows why...anyone else is just uttering

Author: TyroneIrish (19882 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:57 pm on May 20, 2025
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speculation...not fact...and distracts from a good man's sad news of a serious illness...insensitive to say the least.

As for PSA screening, Conor is absolutely right when he says it should start early on...I then shared some information that is not widely known and seems incongruent...i.e. PSA screening should stop after a certain age (~70-75 yrs). Btw, I know a person who got tested at a later age...got an elevated reading...was treated...developed Sepsis (a not uncommon result)...the Sepsis severely damaged his Kidneys...and now has a short life time with or without Dialysis. It could be argued that no screening and treatment might have extended his life and the Quality of it. Hopefully, this awareness of Why screening isn't recommended after a certain age will be of help to others...including you. No apology needed.


Thread Level: 8

Did I ask your post about "Timing"? No. It's you who asked me about timing.

Author: Eli (9501 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:04 pm on May 20, 2025
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I didn't care about your opinion about timing. You asked me about timing. Jesus christ. You're such a horrible person to talk to.

Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=250309

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Thread Level: 9

"Like cheeks, I question the timing!..."...your words...btw, have you registered as a Russian agent?

Author: TyroneIrish (19882 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:48 pm on May 20, 2025
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Seems like the right thing to do...

Thread Level: 8

Re: "false positive and potential harm," shouldn't a high psa be followed by biopsies or MRIs?

Author: JarHead4ND (4250 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:35 pm on May 20, 2025
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Link: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/new-study-once-again-casts-doubt-on-psa-screening-2018040613526

No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.
Thread Level: 9

Don't lose sight of the context...my comment/link was in relation to those men over 70-75.

Author: TyroneIrish (19882 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:50 pm on May 20, 2025
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As for those who are much younger, the following closing paragraph of your link is worth noting...
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Fortunately, Garnick added, men diagnosed with prostate cancer following a PSA test may not have to be treated either in the short or long term. Depending on tumor characteristics, some can opt to have their cancer monitored with active surveillance, which relies on periodic prostate biopsies or MRI to look for new signs that treatment may be necessary. "Hopefully, current research that uses sophisticated genetic testing or biomarkers of prostate cancer may help provide more precise information about those who are likely to most benefit from screening and treatment," Garnick said. "But we are not there yet."
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Thread Level: 2

Why no one of objective mind believes him:

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:08 pm on May 20, 2025
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Link: https://youtu.be/MeLWqumBozI?si=qbV5FfcZp7e6LpPC

Thread Level: 3

You must be talking about the Host of that Podcast ;-)...WOW!

Author: TyroneIrish (19882 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:27 pm on May 20, 2025
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Any comment on the recommendation that men not get PSA tested after age 70?...after all, you have a stake in this too.

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