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This is why reasonably minded people didnt want Tulsi as DNI. This is corruption at highest scales.

Author: Quest4twelve (6533 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:11 am on May 21, 2025
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Editing intelligence for political purposes is the kind of thing we expected out of this office. Joe Kent wrote in regards to not finding a link to tren de Aragua eing sent by Venezuela:

The emails from Joe Kent, the chief of staff to the director of national intelligence, were published by The New York Times onTuesday,days after the newspaper reported that he had pressured officials to scrap a Feb. 26 assessment that found the Trump administration had no legal basis to deport Venezuelan migrants without due process.

“We need to do some rewriting” and more analytic work “so this document is not used against the DNI or POTUS,” Kent wrote in an email on April 3 to a group of intelligence officials, the newspaper reported.

“Let’s just come out and say TDA leaders are given sanctuary in Venezuela as their gang members commit horrendous crimes in America, then we can provide the context about our exact knowledge of relationship between TDA and the Venezuelan government,” Kent wrote to officials including Michael Collins, then the acting head of the National Intelligence Council.


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"The Rot starts at the Top"...you can't work for Trump without selling your soul...and the USA.

Author: TyroneIrish (19881 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:14 pm on May 21, 2025
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The IC lies to us constantly, in every administration.

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:20 pm on May 21, 2025
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Some examples off the top of my head:
1. The JFK files classified for 70+ years.
2. The justification for the Iraq War.
3. Post 9/11 electronic surveillance of Americans
4. The Epstein files.

Now, the libertarian in me would like full transparency. But the pragmatist in me realizes that some information must be protected/obfuscated/manipulated for national security reasons. The partial list above are cases where we deserve full transparency and accountability, IMO.


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Nice deflection...for someone who 'doesn't like Trump...and didn't vote for him', you sure don't

Author: TyroneIrish (19881 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:40 pm on May 21, 2025
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mind changing the subject when he's called out for corruption...there's something very odd about you, Cheeks.

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You calling me odd is highly ironic and accepted as a compliment.

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:59 pm on May 21, 2025
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It wasn't a deflection, it's a side point and the truth of the matter.

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We have evidence of extremely serious corruption right in front of us within the Trump admin and

Author: TyroneIrish (19881 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:22 pm on May 21, 2025
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you post the equivalent of a "Pox on both Parties"...essentially neutering any response to it. To say you are "Unserious"...as well as "Odd"...is an understatement.

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I am saying it isn't out of the ordinary, not that I think it's okay.

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:43 pm on May 21, 2025
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Take James Clapper for example, no consequences whatsoever.

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Purposely Falsifying Information does not 'Happen All The Time"...Re: James Clapper, he did

Author: TyroneIrish (19881 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:53 pm on May 21, 2025
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nothing wrong...as the attached review of Section 215 of the Patriot Act explains.

Again, you don't raise an eyebrow in response to the politically motivated Falsification of documented evidence showing no connection between a group you're familiar with (TDA) and the Venezuelan government...could explain your lack of interest in dealing with the truth of the matter...

You're not the first person anyone should turn to for an honest opinion.


Link: https://www.csis.org/analysis/fact-sheet-section-215-usa-patriot-act

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Clapper lied under oath to Congress, Tyrone.

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:06 pm on May 21, 2025
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The "so and so on my side did nothing wrong" bit is funny, that's what Joe said about Hunter.

Let's establish if you have credibility to criticize, my biases.

Do you think Clapper should have been prosecuted for lying to Congress?


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You answered your own question...James Clapper was not prosecuted for lying to Congress...and with

Author: TyroneIrish (19881 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:14 pm on May 21, 2025
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good reason...as I provided you.

...here is an excerpt from that previous linked summary...
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Section 215 has been reviewed and renewed by Congress twice since 2006. The Supreme Court has held that phone records are not considered private or privileged information for Fourth Amendment purposes because they are voluntarily provided to telecommunications carriers for billing purposes. As of July 31, 2013, the FISC had reauthorized the program 34 times under 14 different judges. More recently, however, two federal judges came down on opposite sides of the issue. Judge Richard K. Leon of the District of Columbia District Court ruled the 215 collection program illegal, while Judge William H. Pauley of the Southern District of New York upheld the legality of the programs.

Despite the breadth of data collected, it has rarely been accessed. In 2012, the NSA queried 288 primary phone numbers, and through contact chain analysis touched 6,000 numbers. Overall, Section 215 data has contributed intelligence to 12 counterterrorism cases with a potential homeland nexus.

Section 215 bulk data is protected against misuse through multiple oversight mechanisms, including minimization procedures that seek to restrict the retention of certain classes of data, like U.S. person data, and internal personnel controls to limit access to the data. To ensure continued program relevance and compliance with established parameters, the 215 collection program is reviewed for reauthorization every 90 days by the FISC, and reports are filed with the court every 30 days. Review by the House and Senate Permanent Select Committees on Intelligence provide an additional layer of oversight. In total, since 2003, there have been 12 confirmed cases of intentional misuse of collected signals data (not necessarily related to 215), most of which were targeted at a personal connection or romantic interest of an individual analyst. Since 2009 there have been a few isolated unintentional incidents of data misuse, only two of which represented broader Section 215 rules violations.

In the first instance, 3000 call detail records over five years old, which had not been properly disposed of in accordance with minimization procedures, were discovered on an NSA server. The records were not accessible for intelligence analysis, and were deleted upon discovery. In the second incident, the NSA received customer credit card information from a telecommunications company after the company made an unannounced software change, which altered the data delivered to the NSA. Upon discovering the unrequested data, the NSA concealed the data from intelligence analysis access, and later deleted it. All of other reported incidents were small, incidental, and resulted in the imposition of measures to prevent repetition in the future. Even very minor incidents were recorded and duly reported to the FISC.

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Let's see if the Trump administration submits to this level of scrutiny for what has been uncovered...but I seriously doubt that you'll pay any attention.


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Lying to Congress is a felony, Tyrone.

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:51 pm on May 21, 2025
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Wishes aren’t indictments…

Author: TyroneIrish (19881 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:40 pm on May 21, 2025
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Guess we'll have to take this one step at a time: Did he lie to Congress?

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:46 pm on May 21, 2025
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Was he indicted?…a rhetorical question…let’s see if our current DNI Chief does.

Author: TyroneIrish (19881 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:07 pm on May 21, 2025
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Well I guess this conversation's over if you can't answer a simple question.

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:26 pm on May 21, 2025
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But deep down inside, you know I'm right.

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In my world, Guilt or Innocence is determined by "Due Process" and Clapper was never even charged...

Author: TyroneIrish (19881 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:39 pm on May 21, 2025
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...anyone can voice their opinion, but Juries are the ones who decide...like all the Grand Juries that have indicted our current Felon residing in the White House...and awaiting further trials. As I've said...'The Rot Starts at the Top".

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Author: TyroneIrish (19881 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:28 pm on May 21, 2025
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Socrates and Jesus were put to death, with due process, in your view that was justice?

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:47 pm on May 21, 2025
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Try to stay focused on the topic of Tulsi Gabbard's DNI org. emails showing documented

Author: TyroneIrish (19881 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:30 pm on May 21, 2025
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falsification of the truth regarding TdA and the Venezuelan government...if you can't do that, then...in your words..."I guess this conversation is over" ;-)

Thread Level: 19

This is why you are a Pharisee.

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:36 pm on May 21, 2025
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That would be called "Pre-bunking Malinformation".

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:36 am on May 21, 2025
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More non issue BS.

Author: PaND (2652 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 12:08 pm on May 21, 2025
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They never get sick if losing.

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Serious question, how often do you make out with your Trumpy doll?

Author: Quest4twelve (6533 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 4:09 pm on May 21, 2025
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Childish snark post by you.

Author: Hensou (8095 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 1:14 pm on May 22, 2025
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It's literally their basis of plucking brown people who have tattoos and sending them to a foreign

Author: Quest4twelve (6533 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:38 am on May 21, 2025
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prison.

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The Biden Admin plucked them from Venezuelan prisons and flew them to our neighborhoods.

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:11 pm on May 21, 2025
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This was the "Original Sin", I am willing to grant some latitude in solving this Biden created problem, like with terrorism.

What is your solution to eliminating Tren De Aragua (flew into the country by Biden admin) and MS-13 (walked across border, probably many during the numerous caravans during Biden admin)?


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You don't believe that, you know how I know? You could easily refute your own BS but since

Author: Quest4twelve (6533 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 4:08 pm on May 21, 2025
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you're supposedly not a "Trump guy" it's all fun and games to you.

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I do believe it, I've posted it here multiple times.

Author: iairishcheeks (26806 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:13 pm on May 21, 2025
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Link: https://nypost.com/2024/08/02/us-news/biden-admin-halts-migrant-flights-from-cuba-haiti-nicaragua-and-venezuela-report/

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Another corrupt, incompetent cabinet member. Only the very best people. But, but Biden was senile

Author: Frank L (64209 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:21 am on May 21, 2025
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and had cancer.

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