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Turns out Russia’s recent bombing of Uk was retaliation for Uk assass attempt of Putin’s helicopter

Author: BaronVonZemo (59193 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:55 am on May 30, 2025
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with drones.

Trump called Putin crazy for the attack not knowing Ukraine’s attack.

Putin is a monster, but Zelensky is an equally big obstacle to achieving peace.

Meanwhile, Germany goes rogue macho and announces range restrictions being lifted on thei missiles that they are giving Ukraine so they can strike into Russia - Russia warns they will retaliate against Berlin if Z uses them to strike into Russia.

Biden/Putin’s War is an awful mess.
Trump is the only one seeking peace - if Putin was making the effort, he’s not anymore.
Can’t get rid of Putin, so…
solution is to pressure remove Zelensky after this latest behind the scenes betrayal while peace negotiations were ongoing or simply stop funding the war.


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Thread Level: 2

Baron is a Master at "Doublespeak"..."Putin is a Monster"...but the Victim "..is an Equally Big

Author: TyroneIrish (20024 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:23 am on May 30, 2025
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Obstacle to Achieving Peace". Baghdad Bob...Axis Sally....and Tokyo Rose would be very proud of our BaronVonZemo...we can be certain that KGB Colonel, Vladimir Putin, gives him a Thumbs Up.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublespeak

Thread Level: 3

speaking of victims, have you read the $20 billion suit by djt against CBS? Donald is a victim

Author: jimbasil (52464 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:27 am on May 30, 2025
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He is confused and has suffered emotionally with traumatic mental anguish.

I still can't believe CBS offered him $15 million when they should have told him to
go fuck himself.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 4

"No Matter What Happens, You Claim Victory and Never Admit Defeat"...Trump Lawyer, Roy Cohn...

Author: TyroneIrish (20024 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:24 am on May 30, 2025
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Those of us with roots in NYC know the Trumps all too well. DJT has learned his lessons from his Dad and Cohn...you can see it in everything he does. Sadly, others have too...like our own BVZ.

...from the attached article...
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The three rules of PR as taught by Roy Cohn to Donald Trump —

Attack! Attack! Attack!

Admit nothing and deny everything.

No matter what happens you claim victory and never admit defeat. You have to be willing to do anything to anyone.

Roy Cohn was a notoriously cutthroat American attorney and power broker who worked on anti-communist investigations during the Army–McCarthy hearings. He became even more notorious as a political fixer in NYC during the 70s and 80s, and he took Donald Trump under his wing when Trump was just starting in business.
Following McCarthy’s fall, Cohn’s reputation declined, and in 1986, the authorities disbarred him for unethical conduct, which included trying to alter a dying client’s will in his favour. Cohn died shortly afterward from AIDS-related complications, having denied his HIV status.
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Link: https://medium.com/bouncin-and-behavin-blogs/no-matter-what-happens-you-claim-victory-and-never-admit-defeat-da98040d8db5

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Yep. Blame the victim. Seems par for the course with Trumpers…

Author: Domer From Hell (16024 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:04 am on May 30, 2025
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Here’s a concept…if Russia didn’t invade, over a million Russian and Ukrainians wouldn’t have died.

And the alleged “Assassination” attempt would be considered justification, huh?


We're all born bald baby!
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Not a matter of Putin being a killer-he is. It’s a matter of making a good faith effort at gettpeace

Author: BaronVonZemo (59193 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:32 am on May 30, 2025
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And Zelensky went not only behind Putin’s back which now makes it near impossible…he went behind the back his ally who funds him.
Zelensky is now also a dictator in his own country ( cancelled elections are explainable, but dissolving all opposition parties and closing churches is not).

You may think its ok to go hehind your ally’s back in negotiations, but I don’t.
Zelensky doesn’t want peace, and he proved it.

No more funding would be my action unless Ukraine puts up a different leader whi can be trusted - otherwise, good luck!

Please try to be more than the TDS posters here who like this because Zelensky did it to Trump. And also, please don’t pretend that I like Putin. I don’t.


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Went behind Trump’s back?…

Author: Domer From Hell (16024 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:59 am on May 30, 2025
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Trump has no backbone to go around. Zelensky is doing what he feels is best for his country. If that means he doesn’t adhere to Trump directives…so be it. From all that I’ve read and seen, Trump doesn’t have the Ukrainian’s best interests in mind during the peace process. Trump only appeases Putin and that isn’t even enough. Hell, Trump won’t even levy new sanctions on Putin.

You always go back to the Ukrainian election thing, when you know full well that according to the Ukrainian constitution, no elections are to be held while the country is under martial law. Also, Russia is good at meddling in other countries elections. You don’t think that Putin is just waiting for that?


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We're all born bald baby!
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Zelensky has no interest in ending the war >1M dead. No hope of winning. Sorry but…

Author: BaronVonZemo (59193 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:08 pm on May 30, 2025
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…I cannot back that.

I suspect that if Ukraine put up a different leader who did want peace, liberals wouldn’t want that . This is about their TDS.
They don’t care about the 2500 Ukrainians dying each week. This is about Zelensky standing up to Trump - THAT is who tgey back and why.
Plus, they don’t EVER want Trump to (in their eyes) having the success of achieving peace.

Sad. TDS.

PS - you again failed to comprehend what I posted re the Z suspension of elections which I specifically said had an possible explanation - Z dissolving all of the opposition parties in Ukraine and shuttering the Churches - not so much.


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Ridiculous. Your assertion that Zelensky doesn’t want to end the war is patently false…

Author: Domer From Hell (16024 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:14 pm on May 30, 2025
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You and your ilk believe Zelensky/Ukraine should accept Russian occupation. Think about that. Also, Zelensky has attended “peace talks”. Putin never has. Think about that. Now who doesn’t want to end the war?

We're all born bald baby!
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Looks like censorship prevents my response.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59193 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:43 pm on May 30, 2025
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I guess that’s what happens to “my ilk”.

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Using the word “ilk” is not name calling…

Author: Domer From Hell (16024 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:55 pm on May 30, 2025
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The definition of “ilk” is “you and people like you. I’m sure you see the difference, but maybe not.

And a hopeless situation is Russian occupation. There’s always hope when you’re still able to fight and Ukrainian military is doing that valiantly. Foreign aid has gone to the right cause.

The ban of 11 political parties had ties Russia/Putin. Seems like a logical move to me.


We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 9

Baron's looking for any excuse to avoid responding to you...looks like he's going to milk this one

Author: TyroneIrish (20024 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:21 pm on May 30, 2025
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for quite awhile...I see a "Lib Rule" coming shortly ;-).

Thread Level: 9

Sorry , I’m having posts deleted by Board ops

Author: BaronVonZemo (59193 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:05 pm on May 30, 2025
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Very American.

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Board op. Usually followed by a threat of a very long suspension.

Author: TampaIrish (11445 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:28 pm on May 30, 2025
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 4

Right, Putin the Magnanimous! Well Done

Author: jimbasil (52464 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:35 am on May 30, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 2

Seriously, how do you view yourself as a normal American?

Author: Quest4twelve (6557 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:29 am on May 30, 2025
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You and others go the extra length to at like a commie enthusiast.

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He praised DJT in Helsinki. We’ve known he’s not an American

Author: jimbasil (52464 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:51 am on May 30, 2025
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A Russian asset is amongst us and we’ve known he’s for years.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3

I'm with you, it's weirdos like Baron that are against males putting on dresses to peep in ladies

Author: holybull101 (10493 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:09 am on May 30, 2025
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room, how does he view himself as normal?

Thread Level: 4

You know, you just can't argue with stupidity because there's just no way to win. Posting dumbass

Author: jimbasil (52464 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:22 am on May 30, 2025
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rebuttals is the way to go here and you're proof of that. It's always a win.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 5

That’s exactly why no one argues with you, plus you just yell and turn into a big baby.

Author: Protagonist (1067 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 10:26 am on May 30, 2025
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My post was censored by Ops here - I merely agreed.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59193 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:36 pm on May 30, 2025
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you're arguing right now. You meant other posters who put up inane and false information here

Author: jimbasil (52464 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:29 am on May 30, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 7

Not an argument, just facts. Post your insult and move on.

Author: Protagonist (1067 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 12:52 pm on May 30, 2025
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Oh, it’s the Ukrainians who started all this. Brilliant! Thank Jesus you’re here to bring the facts.

Author: jimbasil (52464 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:02 am on May 30, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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