Obviously there wouldn't be any money available to research such a hypothesis and since the CDC has decided to stop tracking "breakthrough" cases, there will be no data to do sciency stuff.
almost completely. So, hardly mutation will happen. They block infection (of course vaccine is 100%), so it's even harder to have mutation from infection to occur. For current covid vaccines which allow infection to happen, hmmm.....
Substantially higher hospitalization and death rates.
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There are actually scientists who have posited this….
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But in addition to boosting vaccination in countries with a low inoculation rate, Brilliant said one group of people needs a booster shot “right away” — those who are 65 years and above, and were fully vaccinated more than six months ago but have a weakened immune system.
“It is this category of people that we’ve seen create multiple mutations when the virus goes through their body,” said the epidemiologist.
“So those people, I would say, should be given a third dose, a booster right away — as quickly as moving the vaccines to those countries that haven’t had a very high chance to buy them or have access to them. I consider those two things about equal,” he added.
Link: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/09/covid-epidemiologist-larry-brilliant-on-delta-variant-vaccinations.html
...then the vaccines would help it to spread by killing off the competition.
That would suck.
they claimed that their decision only impacts them. It’s really THE argument for quick vaccination to herd immunity.
Such a variant may well not develop but it is now a risk.
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article states near the end, vaccination can "Stop" mutations/variants...quoting from that article...
"With all vaccines, the more quickly people get vaccinated the better. The slower vaccination happens, the higher the chance of having mutations in the virus and the appearance of more variants. And, as we are seeing with the delta variant, the more the virus can spread in the community."
Be a "super-spreader" for getting the word out..."Get Vaccinated"!
Link: https://www.unitypoint.org/article.aspx?id=db428f77-6e61-497b-91ce-1317a3396dd8
choice that didn’t impact others was such BS. Now the same clowns are concerned that there may be variants, the exact thing that was warned against.
Uhm yeah, given the slow rate of vaccination, dummies that can happen.
The virus will keep spreading regardless of vaccination status. We are already well beyond herd immunity levels when vax and infection are taken into account; unless you don't want to believe Fauci first herd target level, before he shifted the goalpost again. The CDC could have done so much better on publicizing information that would have resulted in better outcomes. They have known all along that the vaccine didn't prevent infection; that is precisely why they stopped tracking breakthrough cases. They knew if they continued to track them, the data would reveal itself.
for the denialists and we were at 80% or above.
Some places were this is raging are well below 50%.
that the spread is better in the communities than it really it. It is spreading through the vaxed, they just aren't aware.
It doesn’t provide perfect protection but it’s pretty good. With a virulent variant and less than 50% vax rates in some places though it’s not gonna to be close to perfect there.
The weekend before this one I was at 3 baseball games with over 30K of my closest friends. Small park and crowded inside.
I felt good but just to be on the safe side I got a test the end of last week with my boys, one of whom is going back to ND Law. Negative. Now it’s anecdotal but I can tell you it worked for the three of us in preventing contraction.
The virus was unfortunately already good at spreading without causing symptoms to begin with though. In a few years, I think we are going to find that specific genetics determined whether or not individuals had severe illness. Would be awesome to know that right now. After recovering from covid last fall, my wife and I made the decision this past week to take the first shot just because of the delta variant concerns. My girls are not taking it and I would highly encourage them not to.... I don't really care what the CDC says about safety of it in kids over 12; I don't want them to figure out in 5-10 years that it affected fertility or something else.
the chances of young kids getting seriously sick are pretty low so I understand yer choice.
concerned about...in the history of Infectious Diseases and Immunology, no vaccine has caused chronic conditions to emerge years or decades later (source: Mayo Clinic)...so you can feel confident in urging your children to get vaccinated.
Link: https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-data-from-the-states/
was trying to communicate to you was that the likelihood of a NEW serious side effect - like the risk of infertility that you mentioned - has NEVER happened, years or decades after the introduction of a vaccine...are there some rare side effects already?...yes, but the rigorous process of evaluation and approval has deemed them to be acceptable, relative to the benefits of the vaccine.
In fact, one would be hard pressed to find a new serious side effect even after 6 months...so, relax...your fears for the future have no basis...your true fear should be the Delta variant...act accordingly.
Both were feeling normal by day 3. I fully expect that a prior infection will help in preventing a severe infection in the future. If they were at risk for serious infections, I would reconsider. If the virus actually prevented infection, I would reconsider. As it stands, it doesn't prevent infection, it prevents severe illness while still allowing spread. That is exactly what would likely happen if they were re-infected. They follow masking guidelines where required. Sorry, but no thanks.
According to the studies from 40% on the low end to 90% on the high end.
It does significantly lower your chance of contraction.
As we've seen with the CDC reversing their mask recommendation for the vaccinated, our current CoVid vaccines are "imperfect". Rather than killing the mutations they may allow them to spread via incognito hosts.
Again, this is a hypothesis that won't likely find much funding to research. And I post this knowing it won't be popular or featured in popular science.
out with 95% effectiveness against the "Wild Type", or "Alpha" version...but then, along came the "Delta" variant and the efficiency dropped...not to zero...but to somewhere in the range of 64-69%...meaning that the vaccines still protected against any infection for that proportion of the community...and of course, the protection from serious illness (the most important benefit) has remained very high.
The CDC changes in mask requirements followed the rise of the Delta variant...pretty straight-forward.
If you really want to get back to a pre-pandemic life, keep telling everyone you know to get vaccinated and follow CDC guidelines...
Doctor grappling with how to deal with serious vaccine injury of his patients.
Says he is clueless on how to help them.
Spike protein clots are inevitable.
62% of patients are showing new clots within week of vaxx.
A clotted vessel is permanently damaged and can never recover.
Within three years will develop right sided heart failure and die because they now have increased vascular resistance through their lungs. Tissue that does NOT regenerate.
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Let the virus run free and wild? Roll over and play dead?
A fully vaccinated population will kill the spread of the virus and its mutations.
Get with the program.
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Your chances of catching delta are much higher if you are not vaxxed.
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Unfortunately it is going to have to run wild a bit to get the dumbasses to do the right thing.
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Evolution is not driven in this manner. Mutations appear spontaneously. If several versions of a disease are thwarted by a vaccine, a mutation that is not affected by the vaccine may rise to become dominant. But the mutation was not caused by the vaccine. It was there already and would have been obscure unless the other versions failed.
In the end, despite the mutation, the vaccine did more good than harm.
Again, not claiming this is "Science". Just my layman's understanding of it.
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If, however, the vaccinated host has no or minimal symptoms yet is still contagious, the mutation will spread.
Whether this is what is happening, we'll likely never know for the reasons I cited, but it's plausible.
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