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When one's first act in our country is to break its' law,how likely is someone to respect other laws

Author: BaronVonZemo (59899 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:36 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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when they don't like them?

I asked this Q a few months ago, and no libs could answer it.

We can see the answer in LA right now.

For every legal immigrant who went through the process and showed the respect for our laws, we cannot let the line cutters get away with it. Otherwise, no one will bother doing it legally going forward.

And entering into the sublimely absurd, the liberals here and the Dem Party want to block our removal efforts of the criminal illegals (that's who they are trying to round up to stand trial....like a US citizen would be expected to do!).
These people broke the immigration law and then went on to commit violent crimes. The Left protects them. DESPITE the electorate clearly indicating that they wanted this fix to the immigration crisis that the Biden Adm created by opening its' borders and not enforcing the law.
TDS is real and it is dangerous.


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Again…DJT called on Congress to resolve Border Security and Immigration problems and. Biden

Author: TyroneIrish (20426 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:31 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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delivered in 2024…losing count of how many times this has been posted…and ignored by the MAGA contingent.

Link: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-calls-congress-secure-borders-protect-american-people/

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How did Biden "deliver?"

Author: jakers (13888 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:02 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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He and his admin worked collaboratively with GOP Senators to address all Border Security and

Author: TyroneIrish (20426 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:13 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Immigration issues, then it passed In the Senate...but as soon as DJT got word of it, he ordered his MAGA faithful to stop it...which they did. Now there is no funding for 1,500 more CBP Officers...hundreds more ICE officers...more Judges and staff to get immigration decisions (Stay or Deport) down from 6 years to 6 months...or less...also, funding for 100+ Fentanyl Scanners for the thousands of cars and trucks that pass through border checkpoints, like Laredo, Texas, daily. If Trump were at all serious about fixing our broken system he'd be all over Congress to provide new rules and funding to make them sustainable...but, that's not happening...WHY?...could it be that he just wants to keep you and others riled up instead of actually making progress?...Then what would he and his MAGAs have to talk about...making life for those with Gender Dysphoria even tougher?

Don't forget that we need literally millions more immigrants to keep our country functioning and moving ahead...and they're not all going to be white Christians. Tell DJT to follow through on his 2019 request for Congressional Action.


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So, he didn't deliver. Thanks for confirming.

Author: jakers (13888 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:36 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Can't deliver when Trump orders his GOP House majority to kill the bill...you have to know this...

Author: TyroneIrish (20426 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:40 am on Jun 12, 2025
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why do you act the fool and not acknowledge it?

You're also conveniently ignoring the fact that DJT himself called on Congress to FINALLY resolve our Border Security and Immigration problems with a comprehensive BILL in 2019...I've posted his exact words and details of what he wanted multiple times. That's how the problems get fixed...not through EOs...he knows this, but obstructs real progress to stay in power through votes from willfully ignorant people like yourself. I know it's embarrassing, but if you truly want solutions you have to accept your mistakes and make changes...like doing all you can to get rid of Trump and vote only for rational lawmakers, be they Republican or Democrat.


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You said he "delivered." That is factually incorrect.

Author: jakers (13888 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:21 am on Jun 12, 2025
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I have personally heard from a member of Congress that GOP

Author: TyroneIrish (20426 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:17 am on Jun 13, 2025
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members and their families are being physically as well as politically threatened to not oppose Trump’s agenda…which buttresses GOP Senator, Lisa Murkowski’s public acknowledgment of that fact. But for that, JB’s Bill would be law right now.

You’re backing a mad man bent on destroying this country.


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Biden delivered, Republicans failed. You’re just an idiot

Author: Death (1398 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:27 pm on Jun 12, 2025
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Auto Pen LMAO

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:46 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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I know a lot of people who ent through the process legally and it sucks. With that being said, I

Author: Protagonist (1096 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 1:56 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Think most people who come here don’t want to make trouble and there needs to be a process for those people. As a part of that process, I think if you commit a crime while you are here, it should be automatic deportation. Right now the illegal rioters in LA, if arrested, should be deported.

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I agree completely. And at present ICE is only targeting criminals -& the Left is blocking even this

Author: BaronVonZemo (59899 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:08 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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False. Repeating your same lie won’t make it true

Author: Death (1398 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:08 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Zero credibility

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There is too much irony in your post.

Author: Protagonist (1096 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 12:04 pm on Jun 12, 2025
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Provide an example of a lie I have repeated

Author: Death (1398 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:29 pm on Jun 12, 2025
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You already know you can’t

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in principle, baron is correct but Im not sure

Author: cubsfanin16 (5499 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 9:24 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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it played that way.but what's the difference, they are here illegally this breaking the law.

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Do you really think there’d be this much backlash over criminals?

Author: Death (1398 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Zero is willfully posting lies as usual. The part I have no tolerance for is people calling themselves true Americans and then consistently choosing party over country. Those people can fuck off into the sun. People are angry and rightfully so.

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A reasonable, logical and rational response

Author: Death (1398 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:18 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Well done sir

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you mean follow the examples of DJT and his criminal cronies?

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:13 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Just checking because it’s well known who sides with Putin, evades taxes, cheats charities, lies about everything and in general breaks the laws of this country at will.

You’re a moron.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3

Answer the question. Your digression suggests that you can't.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59899 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:36 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Oh it is answered, you just don’t like the answer. You’re a MAGAhypocrite.

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:48 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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When one's first act is to break a country's law, how likely is someone to respect other laws?

Author: BaronVonZemo (59899 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:06 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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At this point, you went into a TDS diatribe about Trump without answering the question.
I'll take silence or further deflection as acknowledgment that the likelihood is that they will not respect other laws that they don't like also.


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“you mean follow the examples of DJT and his criminal cronies?“

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:37 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Your admission of my point is noted.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59899 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:45 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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your Admission DJT is a criminal who cares little for US laws is noted.

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:50 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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When one's first act is to break a country's law, how likely is someone to respect other laws?

Author: BaronVonZemo (59899 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:05 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Don't forget he sells nuclear stuff to our enemies. Just one of the many idiotic stories you

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:21 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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believed and parroted here like a good little sheep. And you calling anyone a moron is hysterical, unless you are talking to a mirror.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 4

More than likely true. If there were odds on he did or didn’t - he did would be best bet.

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:49 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 5

You have no proof. Just more garbage from you.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:57 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 6

He’s All About the Benjamins. But you just keep supporting this criminal.

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:41 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Right. How many of the Presidents you support are worth more now than before they

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:49 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Were President? Of course you won’t answer because you think Trump is different from those who you support. You’re not smart enough to know they are exactly the same. But carry on with your TDS. He gives your life meaning.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 8

DJT is a convicted criminal therefore all presidents are criminals. That’s sound logic.

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:56 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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DJT summons an insurrection therefore all presidents have done so.

DJT the grifter who monetize everything steals dozens of boxes of highly classified documents therefore all presidents monetize stolen classified documents selling to foreign adversaries.

Your logic is astounding.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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We’re back to the insurrection bullshit? I thought that was a mostly peaceful protest?

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:27 am on Jun 12, 2025
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I prefer to call it Granny Selfie Day but it’s not dramatic enough for you.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 2

Your MAGA brain prevents you from having a nuanced conversation about this.

Author: Quest4twelve (6682 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 1:07 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Is asylum is in our Constitution, yes or no? I'm not asking if you agree or disagree with it, it is in our Constitution currently?

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So then we at least agree on the many millions who didn't use the asylum loophole. It's a start.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59899 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:35 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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If you just crossed over and attempted to hide in the country, absolutely! Do you know that number?

Author: Quest4twelve (6682 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 2:08 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Do I need to? Are you claiming ICE is deporting asylum seekers? Do you know that number?

Author: BaronVonZemo (59899 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:01 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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Corollary: When law enforcement is politically discretionary, how likely is it to be obeyed?

Author: Curly1918 (16446 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:01 pm on Jun 11, 2025
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