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With the JCPOA in place there would be no potential Middle East war about to break out

Author: Quest4twelve (6665 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:39 am on Jun 13, 2025
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The only reason why the JCPOA was terminated is because Trump (who has no personal understandings of policy) let advisors who hate Obama, talked him into terminating it.

So now there's been no deal in place for almost 8 years, Iran has had no restraints on enrichment and so the best "deal" is to bomb the fuck out of them. Yep makes sense to me. 🙄


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100% right

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:09 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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Israel released docs purporting to show that Iran lied re extent of nuke dev before signing JCPOA.

Author: NedoftheHill (44628 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:02 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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They handed over 96% of their LEU to the IAEA.

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:11 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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LEU = low enriched uranium. They had no HEU.

The Iranians lived up to their end of the bargain. The US did not.


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Too bad no treaty was signed & ratified, eh? Short term thinking.

Author: NedoftheHill (44628 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:25 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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Personally, I think Obama was being an anti-colonialist when he pushed that, not even a Democrat.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Yep

Author: BaronVonZemo (59841 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:59 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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While the JCPOA was in effect with U.S. participation, Iran was complying with the terms of that

Author: TyroneIrish (20378 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:44 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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agreement (see IAEA Report attached)...Trump gave them an excuse to increase Uranium enrichment to weapons grade levels when he pulled us out.

Link: https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/18/06/gov2018-24.pdf

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Don't be that naive

Author: MarkHarman (7275 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:26 am on Jun 14, 2025
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They had to give Iran 24 days notice before they could come and inspect what Iran was doing. That was more than enough time for them to easily cover their tracks.

Why are you so quick to believe bad guys are going to comply? Blaming Trump is ridiculous.


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You people are incredible. Orange was trying to negotiate the same type of verification agreement

Author: Frank L (64656 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:28 pm on Jun 14, 2025
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with the mullahs before the Israeli attack.

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Link?

Author: Frank L (64656 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:23 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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Saw on scrolling chiron on TV. Googled for 10 seconds for you, but found only 2018 AP/BBC articles

Author: NedoftheHill (44628 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:30 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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Maybe the chiron was referring to old news? Who knows.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Even the Mossad acknowledged that Iran did not cheat in the JCPOA

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:33 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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Link? That disagrees with what I've heard. The Mossad actually raided buildings inside Iran for docs

Author: NedoftheHill (44628 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:25 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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No potential for Iran to continue seeking nuclear weapons, right?

Author: NedoftheHill (44628 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:39 am on Jun 13, 2025
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And wasn't it a 10 year plan anyway...would have expired last year, allowing Iran to seek nukes?

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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If the JCPOA had been Mango’s idea, MAGA and he would have been touting it for years. In fact,

Author: Frank L (64656 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:06 am on Jun 13, 2025
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he was trying to reconstitute much of it into a new agreement. Self inflicted wound by a moron to abrogate it.

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Always seemed like a bad idea. Did you always like it?

Author: NedoftheHill (44628 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:39 am on Jun 13, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Nope, especially didn’t like the payments. I liked the idea of Mango abrogating it even worse.

Author: Frank L (64656 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:45 am on Jun 13, 2025
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We had already given them their money back, the verification process seemed to be working, and we could always abrogate if and when it wasn’t.

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No, we don’t appease terrorists nor trust their word.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59841 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:15 am on Jun 13, 2025
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well that’s easily disproven. PUTIN.

Author: jimbasil (52631 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 11:34 am on Jun 13, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Iran would already have nukes if it were

Author: BaronVonZemo (59841 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:05 am on Jun 13, 2025
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Have you gone this far in life w/o knowing your opinion does not mean fact.

Author: Quest4twelve (6665 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:43 am on Jun 13, 2025
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Heh. Quest4SelfAwareness.

Author: NedoftheHill (44628 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:03 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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exactly

Author: irish93 (1771 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2009)

Posted at 1:08 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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Both of you are school girl cute.

Author: Quest4twelve (6665 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 1:22 pm on Jun 13, 2025
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