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…. Waiting to hear full report. But wrong regardless of motive.

"Hortman worked closely with Gov. Tim Walz to enact policies that prioritized children and expanded protections for abortion and gender-affirming care"

You'd like to think that Baron would button his lip after this extreme violence...but I won't bet on it.

This is an example of "Stochastic Terrorism" that is fomented by constant and widespread misinformation as to what is actually going on. There are too many unhinged people, with no ability to conduct "Critical Thinking" out there who will flip out and use lethal force. Sadly, we see examples of such absences of "Critical Thinking" right here on this Forum. Let's do something about it, with more substantive and thoughtful debate on issues like Abortion and Gender Dysphoria.


Link: https://19thnews.org/2025/06/rep-melissa-hortman-killed-in-targeted-attack-was-a-champion-for-minnesotan-families/

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doesn’t signify his party affiliation today.

I don't know his motive, but this one isn't something you can tie to Conservatives or Trump. Fuck conner for trying it.

Claim “violence comes from the left.” Also, from what I’m hearing, the gunman’s list of targets are all Dems.

You were wrong with your inference that the guy was a conservative. It was once again, a left wing radical liberal.
I do agree that crazy people act this way, and that it is possible for violence to occur from either side, BUT the vast majority of crazy and psychotic people occupy the political space on the Left, and the Dem party encourages violence, lawlessness, and hatred. Thus, AS A GENERAL (BUT NOT ABSOLUTE) RULE AT PRESEN:, Violence comes from the left - part of Liberalism Rule #19.

Now, you clearly called me a “MAGA dolt”.
You said we had a name calling truce.
I felt like you skirted close once before but accepted your explanation.
If you want to go backward, it’s your choice.
Regardless, this episode simply further reaffirms my Rule #19 observation.

BaronVonZemo's Rules of Liberalism:

Liberalism Rule #1 - accuse others of that which you are/do.
Liberalism Rule #2 - the rules apply to thee and not me
Liberalism Rule #3 - We know what is best, thus the ends justify the means.
Liberalism Rule #4 - We believe ourselves to be smarter thus, we cannot admit that we are wrong.
i) Admitting mistakes undermines the premise of being smarter, ergo self correction is not possible.
Liberalism Rule #5 - What didn’t work last time, will work next time (see 4 i.)
Liberalism Rule #6 - When we lose, change the rules.
i) Whenever convenient, change the definition to suit our goal.
Liberalism Rule #7 - Appeasement (using other people's money - usually taxpayers) is the best deterrent to conflict.
Liberalism Rule #8 - Totally Differentism - when we do something that we don’t like others doing, it is always “totally different”.
Liberalism Rule #9 - Equity through inequity (any difference must be equalized by pulling down the
unaffected party. Vengeance is preferable).
Liberalism Rule #10 - We support our representative speaking regardless of the truth (in contrast to
conservatives who support the truth regardless of the representative speaking it).
Liberalism Rule #11 - We vote on personality over policy.
Liberalism Rule #12 - Genetics are selective. We believe that sexuality and guilt are genetic, but gender is not. Scientific proof is not required.
Liberalism Rule #13 - Do SOMETHING! When a crisis happens, do SOMETHING! It doesn't have to have to work, but it must: a) make us feel better which is more important than actually solving the crisis, and b) advance the liberal agenda.
Liberalism Rule #14 - "You’ll have to show us a lot more than rock solid, irrefutable evidence”.
Liberalism Rule #15 - There are no universal truths. The truth changes to fit our needs.
Liberalism Rule #16 - The Expert Threshold. If a false narrative has enough “experts” backing it, it becomes truth regardless of evidence to the contrary. “Experts” are defined as those who support the narrative, and they can be conjured if necessary (because of Liberalism Rule #3).
Liberalism Rule #17 - Charity ends at home. It is accomplished through the government with other people’s money.
Liberalism Rule #18 - When failure or bad behavior is completely undeniable, distance yourself from complicity to salve your guilty conscience.
Liberalism Rule #19 - Guns don’t kill people, liberals with guns kill people. Violence comes from the Left.
Liberalism Rule #20 - Only guilty life is precious. Innocence makes us uncomfortable and thus must be eliminated.
Liberalism Rule #21 - "I'm a moderate". We are not liberal, we are "moderates" politically - despite supporting every liberal tenant. This is because we consider ourselves to be the fairest and also because we care too deeply about what others think of us to just admit what we really are (See Rule #22).
Liberalism Rule #22 - “We care too deeply about what others think of us.” (This is why we feel the constant need to virtue signal and try to buy foreign approval with handouts).
Liberalism Rule #23 - Make it about race! "Whenever we are losing an argument, make it about race".

You’re not the only MAGA dolt that says that stupid shit. Sorry, “Dolt” seems to fit you when it comes to politics. Other than that, I’m sure you’re a swell guy.

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to kill a conservative figure recently

Makers because of their political policies. Seems he was going to kill abortion providers and other Dems.

The point I was trying to convey, albeit poorly, is that violence comes from loons.

That would be wrong.

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basic credibility on the subject.

Less tolerant.

This was a right winger. I kind of did to prove that political affiliation has nothing to do with violent lunatics.

Until all facts are in.

Crazy f’ers out there.

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Although I believe he may have been originally appointed by Tim’s predecessor.

this guy had been appointed to a state board by a prior D gov. He also apparently hates abortion providers.

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