Job apocalypse?
I wonder how AI itself would tackle this problem?
Or would AI simply determine that humans are "dispensable?
Link: https://amac.us/newsline/society/ai-job-apocalypse-could-be-the-biggest-political-issue-of-the-next-decade/
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Much like farriers and blacksmiths a century ago.
When we moved from horses to automobiles, we needed fewer farriers and more people to design, manufacture, and repair cars. We needed refineries to make gasoline, etc.
My sense is that AI will lead to different jobs, but not necessarily fewer overall. Someone needs to design and train the AI, the computer’s suck a lot of electricity, etc.
There will of course be winners and losers. And as stated elsewhere, many of the existing college degrees will be rather worthless.
In the late 1800s horsesit shoveling was a major employer in NYC
We'll eventually find something for the AI displacements to do.
Link: https://smartwatermagazine.com/blogs/agueda-garcia-de-durango/new-york-manure-and-stairs-when-horses-were-cities-nightmares
If we had competent, agile, virtuous and adaptive governments it would be no big deal.
But we have the opposite of that so prepare for pain, death and destruction.
Sure Checkers, no big deal if your favs like Booby Jr. and Vivek were running things.
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This is a threat to the upper middle class and lower upper class jobs.
Gets into a lot of interesting questions about what to do with all those intellectually minded people. The construction jobs, teachers, nurses, etc will still be necessary, but this significantly reduces the need for lawyers, accountants, etc.
The glass half full types assume all those people will be redirected to the arts and music and higher minded things. Maybe.
As the Nordic countries have shown, a minimum basic salary doesn't give people meaning.
Your last sentence is the crucial point.
Work provides meaning in our lives. Try telling this to the under 40 crowd.
BTW, most teachers will be replaced by AI, and paraeducators will assume the role of minders/recorders of misbehavior for the students whose parents will still send them to physical schools. The shelf life of education as we know it, from K-12 through college, will expire during the lifetimes of some people on this board.
Indeed, ChrisGPT is just around the corner.
ChrisGPT: "Make me a Pro-Hamas slogan for the protest on Monday"
GPT is known to hallucinate to support a position.
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That's not who Chris is. I can't believe I'm defending him, but he's a Dem of old.
He takes what were once mainstream Dem positions.
I'm saying he'll be replaced by AI, education is low hanging fruit.
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You got it. 70 years of plenty along with increased automation and secularization isn't a good mix.
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And a threat to Universities! Today's students use AI to get grades for degrees that will be useless
It's already beginning to happen and will only accelerate as AI takes over more and more white collar functions.
Link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/new-graduates-are-having-such-a-hard-time-finding-jobs-they-re-now-having-an-oversized-impact-on-america-s-unemployment-rate/ar-AA1GSp6D?ocid=BingNewsSerp
My daughters catcher from her travel ball team had a scholarship offer from University of Tampa.
She turned it down and went into welding. When I talked to her about it, she said "I've been doing this all throughout HS and have a job waiting for me making good money". Smart kid to know her future and what she wanted. This is the kind of kid the self-anointed elites look down on but the world needs more of her. But hey - she is just another mouth breather in their eyes.
My niece, goddaughter, PHD, wants her son to be a plumber/electrician and own his own company cuz
She’s so upset and disillusioned with the whole college, university money making machine.
10 years ago we started talking about politics, she was far left.
Now, she’s a tad right mostly cuz of her paycheck, owning property and out of her parents financial umbrella.
My son is in a 2 year program to learn how to build, program and fly drones. It has a 100% job
placement. Small classes, like 10 students. The kids coming out of the program are making mid-6 figures. The cost is like $6k.
Thank god my daughter found a good job in the horticulture field. Even with a softball and academic scholarship, she/we still have a nice loan. But she knows she has to pay it back and is not looking for a government bailout. In time, she wants to open her own plant business once she gets rolling.
Hmmmmm, I got a hook up in the drone thing if you wanna talk
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Nice. Really appreciate the offer. I want him to get involved a little deeper first.
He is taking an electrical course now after taking pilot theory and meteorology. I would think the 2nd semester he will be into the meat of the drones. It's pretty interesting stuff.
There are a number of companies in Iowa doing crop spraying by drone as well.
And if he's a single man, comedian Matt Rife declared Des Moines, IA as the place with the hottest women in the country.
Link: http://www.iowapbs.org/education/findiowa/media/9482/farming-drones
I know Ag is a big user of the drones. Our friend has a large orange grove north of us and he uses
Them. He’s not big on Florida. He likes the cooler weather and I see him getting out in the future. We’re really curious to see where he is going to land once he is done.
Yep, got it just let me know
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My kids school makes them hand write essays to attempt to avert AI. Human nature, but pathetic.
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'Well, the world needs ditch-diggers, too.' - Judge Smails
As with every great tech shift, many jobs will be impacted, but many will also be created. We are entering a transition period.
Maybe this will make the traditional trades jobs more appealing to some. Huge need for those good paying jobs. Tried hiring an electrician, plumber or carpenter recently?
Prob need to really address why co’s want to shed jobs-
Spit balling:
#1 cost of healthcare
#2 finding qualified, well educated workers willing to work
#3 performance superiority of AI vs humans (which prob varies per field at the moment).
#4 Administrators “following the popular trend for the sake of looking like they are doing something and appear not to be “stuck in the past” (I saw this a lot with early bad, but expensive iterations of EMR in hospital systems) - never, ever underestimate the stupidity of administrators.
I would think providing tailored tax breaks to companies that maintain their jobs would be one option (accounting for the company’s actual savings by using AI).
But #1 is by far the biggest driver right now in the US. Until that is addressed, AI will be very popular as a replacement whenever able. And healthcare carries a inflexible political baggage at present.
Big 4 accounting firms are already working hard on this
The Big 4 hire thousands of new college grads every year. New hires start out as Staff, then if they work out they get promoted to Senior, then Manager, then Senior Manager, etc. Very high turnover (to be expected, many college grads haven't matured). As it stands right now AI can replace most of the staff-level jobs. Big 4's problem, though, is that if they eliminate or reduce staff hires they won't have the people to work up the ranks to the more senior positions (which as of now are not threatened by AI).
But the point of the article is a great one to consider: What happens to all those college grads if the jobs with accounting firms dry up?
This made me laugh
'Very high turnover (to be expected, many college grads haven't matured)...'
Crazy that those immature college grads don't enjoy back-stabbing and ass-kissing peers, and no work-life balance.
In accounting, at what level do you think AI would replace jobs?
Intern? Senior? Manager? Senior
Manager?
Already doing it at Staff level. Probably could do Senior level too.
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