The JCPOA had halted Iran’s nuclear program
Can’t hide centrifuges.
Can’t make HEU without centrifuges.
Link: https://x.com/jeremycliffe/status/1935253188057207133?s=46&t=kVeQeQf8ed0KokuRgfOE0g
Replies to: The JCPOA had halted Iran’s nuclear program
Another perfect example of "peace for our time."
Fordow is just a mine... right?
Nothing like it, actually. Not close. But thanks for always chiming in.
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Yep, Iraq all over again, defense contractors and Cheney& Friends want to get paid
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First you agree with Liz Cheney and now you and Tucker are on the same page? Weird, right.
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I am consistent. Politics makes strange bedfellows.
I bet I disagree with former Rep Cheney on this one.
My beliefs are not based on politics.
Gee, let's see, was there any intervening variable since Trump left office after his first term?
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Yet, the Board’s Racists cheered Trump’s dismantling of the JCPOA.
Because any achievement of President Obama’s presidency had to be “repealed and repealed.”
White Power is all that matters!
Liberalism Rule #23: “Make It About Race!”
BaronVonZemo's Rules of Liberalism:
Liberalism Rule #1 - accuse others of that which you are/do.
Liberalism Rule #2 - the rules apply to thee and not me
Liberalism Rule #3 - We know what is best, thus the ends justify the means.
Liberalism Rule #4 - We believe ourselves to be smarter thus, we cannot admit that we are wrong.
i) Admitting mistakes undermines the premise of being smarter, ergo self correction is not possible.
Liberalism Rule #5 - What didn’t work last time, will work next time (see 4 i.)
Liberalism Rule #6 - When we lose, change the rules.
i) Whenever convenient, change the definition to suit our goal.
Liberalism Rule #7 - Appeasement (using other people's money - usually taxpayers) is the best deterrent to conflict.
Liberalism Rule #8 - Totally Differentism - when we do something that we don’t like others doing, it is always “totally different”.
Liberalism Rule #9 - Equity through inequity (any difference must be equalized by pulling down the
unaffected party. Vengeance is preferable).
Liberalism Rule #10 - We support our representative speaking regardless of the truth (in contrast to
conservatives who support the truth regardless of the representative speaking it).
Liberalism Rule #11 - We vote on personality over policy.
Liberalism Rule #12 - Genetics are selective. We believe that sexuality and guilt are genetic, but gender is not. Scientific proof is not required.
Liberalism Rule #13 - Do SOMETHING! When a crisis happens, do SOMETHING! It doesn't have to have to work, but it must: a) make us feel better which is more important than actually solving the crisis, and b) advance the liberal agenda.
Liberalism Rule #14 - "You’ll have to show us a lot more than rock solid, irrefutable evidence”.
Liberalism Rule #15 - There are no universal truths. The truth changes to fit our needs.
Liberalism Rule #16 - The Expert Threshold. If a false narrative has enough “experts” backing it, it becomes truth regardless of evidence to the contrary. “Experts” are defined as those who support the narrative, and they can be conjured if necessary (because of Liberalism Rule #3).
Liberalism Rule #17 - Charity ends at home. It is accomplished through the government with other people’s money.
Liberalism Rule #18 - When failure or bad behavior is completely undeniable, distance yourself from complicity to salve your guilty conscience.
Liberalism Rule #19 - Guns don’t kill people, liberals with guns kill people. Violence comes from the Left.
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Liberalism Rule #22 - “We care too deeply about what others think of us.” (This is why we feel the constant need to virtue signal and try to buy foreign approval with handouts).
Liberalism Rule #23 - Make it about race! "Whenever we are losing an argument, make it about race".
Posting a Liberalism Rule is always your tell of surrender.
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...or it's an reproduceable observation of your flawed liberal cognitive process.
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Not only that, but Baron violates virtually all of them...and when confronted with proof...he hides.
...examples available upon request.
False, it funded them. They lied at the start of the deal like we told you they would.
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It funded the centrifuges? Don’t let your ignorance slow your posting roll.
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Money's fungible, even in ivory towers outside of reality.
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You know what they could spend that money on? Nuclear weapons.
This stupid war is the result of the decision to scrap the JCPOA. Which Trump did out of spite, largely, because like you he did not understand it.
Yeah, those are easily accessible and small finite # would deter a response, right?
It’s amazing to hear you try to rationalize the reality of the JCPOA disaster away.
Tell me, you’ve regularly avoided the issue of pushing tjus deal through w/out congress & the promise that it would be cancelled.
What’s your excuse there? Because it iwould better now if it had never happened.
I’ll answer seriously. Which is always a disaster.
The JCPOA could not have garnered 2/3 of the Senate. Not matter what it said. So it was done by executive agreement, which carries (legally) the same weight.
BUT: Trump could have (and would have) canceled a treaty just as easily as he did the executive agreement.
So this is a non-issue.
I witnessed this - Obama was promised that it would be undone. Many Dems didn’t want it also.
He unilaterally went through w it anyways nonetheless. I never said it wasn’t legal, but it was unwise and did NOT carry the same weight as an actual treaty.
Way too big of a decision to do on POTUS Power only as POTUS is temporary.
Why did Obama do it?
Bad advice?
Ego?
pro islamic bent?
Legacy?
He thought that GOP was bluffing?
From Obama’s own comments, I inferred that he thought the middle east was imbalanced with Israel having nukes, but not the muslim world.
I suspect he thought MAD would work in the crazy, violent zealot world of islam.
PS- discourse does not have to always end in agreement
I apologize to the board for wasting its space
And to myself for wasting my time.
That guy is truly off in “La La Land”…far beyond the reach of facts, logic or reason.
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Because in your mind, all discussion must end with adopting your POV or it was a waste-which is why
you are incapable of learning.from your mistakes.