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And a BIG SCOTUS win for Trump Adm on deportation to 3rd party countries.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59883 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:52 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-rules-trumps-third-country-deportations-south-sudan-other

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Thread Level: 2

"Sotomayor accuses Supreme Court of 'rewarding lawlessness' by Trump..." in ignoring lower

Author: TyroneIrish (20411 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:17 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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court rulings...yet, at the same time granting DJT all the delays he wants. This SCOTUS majority bears no resemblance to the statue with its eyes blindfolded.

Link: https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/23/politics/sonia-sotomayor-dissent-immigration-rewarding-lawlessness

Thread Level: 3

A good rule of thumb is whatever Sotomayor thinks, the opposite is legally correct

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:25 am on Jun 24, 2025
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You will laugh at this, due to your lack of logical thinking ability, but I am more qualified to be a US Supreme Court just than she is solely on the basis she makes her rulings based on personal feelings rather than what is constitutional.

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yes the degradation of the scotus continues.

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:45 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Won't change your life one bit

Author: Quest4twelve (6677 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:18 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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Every deportation helps blue collar workers. I remember when Democrats used to worry about them.

Author: NedoftheHill (44655 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:20 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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How does it help blue collar workers?

Author: Domer From Hell (16295 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:44 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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I'm surprised to have to answer this. It protects their jobs.

Author: NedoftheHill (44655 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:13 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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This was accepted wisdom years ago, when Dems championed the blue collar worker. Now that the Dems are the party of the elites, I guess all that is called into question now.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Evidence doesn't support that trite claim...thousands of farmers and hotel owners (incl. DJT) rely

Author: TyroneIrish (20411 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:32 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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on immigrants who work for low wages...and it's the Dems who are fighting for not only the immigrants, but also the industries that need them. DJT's deportations are political theater aimed at low information voters. Note that he's admitted as much by not sending ICE to such places and calling out how THOSE immigrants are "Hard Working" and have "Been there for years"..."Good People".

See attached post for additional info...


Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=254516

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This is fantasy. Illegals do blue collar jobs that American blue collar works won’t do.

Author: Domer From Hell (16295 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:19 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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BS. Without illegals, there would be more demand and higher wages.

Author: NedoftheHill (44655 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:35 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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I worked in a factory once. I was paid by check and walked out the front door. Illegals were paid on the back dock. They definitely took jobs from locals.

Again, this is common sense, and was commonly accepted, until the Dems decided there was an advantage to creating another permanently held back class of people.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Businesses…especially in Texas…seek out undocumented immigrants just so they can pay them wages

Author: TyroneIrish (20411 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:00 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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even the lowest native blue collar worker wouldn’t take…do a search of my posts on this subject. btw, they even make sure they can find folks that provide SS #’s.

Those immigrants aren’t taking blue collar jobs away from anyone.


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More fiction…

Author: Domer From Hell (16295 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:41 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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Illegals paid over 100 billion in taxes. I’m not saying that some aren’t paid under the table, but to say they’re getting over is plain wrong. And how long ago was it that you worked in a factory? Aren’t you 80 or something? And what part of the country do you live in? I’m willing to bet you’ve never been adversely affected by an illegal immigrant.

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We're all born bald baby!
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Do you think we should just let them all in? If not, why not?

Author: NedoftheHill (44655 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:55 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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If so, how many is too many? A billion? What if we get 4 billion asylum seekers? Must we schedule them all for hearings? You don't think they will take any jobs from Americans?

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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No. I’ve never supported that…

Author: Domer From Hell (16295 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:02 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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They should be vetted to the best of our ability.

I don’t support the draconian tactics being used now. The vast majority of illegal immigrants just want better lives for their families. The USA is till the best place to live. You don’t see many people trying to break into Russia, China, or Iran.


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What percent of 8 billion people just want a better lives for their families? Let them all come in?

Author: NedoftheHill (44655 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:18 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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"How the United States Immigration System Works"...I'm surprised at you for not even thinking to

Author: TyroneIrish (20411 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:23 am on Jun 24, 2025
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look this easily accessible document up...gives info on quotas, too.

Oh, and Congress is the entity that passes the laws that define policy and quotas, etc...something the Trump admin should be working on...don't you think?


Link: https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/how-united-states-immigration-system-works-fact-sheet/

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The "draconian tactics" now are for those who committed crimes here after illegal immigration.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59883 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:04 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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Seriously? They’re rounding up a hell of a lot more than just the criminals. Don’t be naive

Author: Domer From Hell (16295 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:11 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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Who is paying their healthcare?

Author: BaronVonZemo (59883 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:46 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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The tax payers benefit from this.

1175 yrs ago, it was Dems who demanded to keep their slave labor, and they are doing today as well. Consistency.


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State and local funding with federal funding limited to emergency care…

Author: Domer From Hell (16295 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:49 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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Illegals generate a hell of a lot more tax revenue than they receive.

We're all born bald baby!
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Ah but I'm betting that you didn't know this......

Author: BaronVonZemo (59883 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:01 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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Link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/12/30/how-american-citizens-finance-170-billion-in-health-care-for-unauthorized-immigrants/

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"Fact Sheet: Undocumented Immigrants and Federal Health Care Benefits"

Author: TyroneIrish (20411 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:28 am on Jun 24, 2025
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...from the attached document...
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How much do undocumented immigrants pay in taxes?

Undocumented immigrants contribute tens of billions of dollars in federal, state and local taxes each year.

Discussions of immigrants and public benefits often overlook the significant tax contributions made by undocumented immigrants. According to research conducted by New American Economy, in 2018 undocumented immigrants contributed $20.1 billion in federal taxes and $11.8 billion in state and local taxes.

The tax contributions of undocumented immigrants are critical to the viability of public health programs like Medicare and Medicaid. Between 2000 and 2011, undocumented immigrants generated a $35.1 billion surplus in the Medicare Trust Fund. States that expend the most in emergency medical care for undocumented immigrants (California, Texas, and New York) all also receive over $1 billion in state and local tax contributions from undocumented immigrants each year.

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Link: https://immigrationforum.org/article/fact-sheet-undocumented-immigrants-and-federal-health-care-benefits/

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There’s approximately a $54 billion deficit by funding healthcare for illegals…

Author: Domer From Hell (16295 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:13 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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I don’t have a solution to that and deporting them all isn’t the answer.

We're all born bald baby!
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Let's start by deporting the illegals who committed crimes after entry, and have the Dem Party stop

Author: BaronVonZemo (59883 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:11 pm on Jun 24, 2025
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using lawfare to protect these criminals.

Thread Level: 2

Anyone who was considering Kameltoe has to see the folly of their ways

Author: LanceManion (7939 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:16 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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Unless they are blinded by irrational TDS

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Cesar Chavez was dead set against illegal immigration.

Author: ELP (9562 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 9:47 pm on Jun 23, 2025
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He blamed them for the low wages earned by legal farm workers. He once protested against illegals at the border and was joined by Democrat lib Walter Mondale.

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