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Vanguard average and median 401(k) balances...I mean, wow.

Author: NedoftheHill (44646 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:32 pm on Jun 24, 2025
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Average: $148,153

Median: $38,176

Amazingly, people actually turn down 401(k) matching contributions from their employers. Free money. WTF?

Thank goodness for social security, right? That will always be there.....


Link: MarketWatch: Does your 401(k) balance stack up against the new national average?

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

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Unless the law changes, if you are 50+, catch-up contributions have to be Roth in 26

Author: LanceManion (7937 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 6:27 am on Jun 25, 2025
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If your base income is at least $145k.

For paycheck to paycheck people a 401k is a luxury.

The loan and hardship rates are 20% combined. Worst thing you can do with a 401k.


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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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We are not a nation of savers

Author: WoodstockIrish (14678 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:03 am on Jun 25, 2025
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Fat too many retirees think Social Security is going to handle it for them and are mad at the world for not helping them out more.

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At even the highest payment rate, if you get individual SS at 62, it is around $2800.month.

Author: LanceManion (7937 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:48 am on Jun 25, 2025
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I think it goes up by around $200 per month for each year you wait. But, after paying taxes, that doesn't leave a tremendous amount of money.

I understand why companies did it, and a defined benefit pension plan makes no sense if you change jobs every two years, but the 401k route doesn't work for most.


Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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You need 401K plus maxxing out Roth in your 20s to have a decent retirement in your 60s.

Author: iairishcheeks (27115 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:05 pm on Jun 25, 2025
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Sadly, most people do neither.

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Not smart taking it at 62..it goes up 8% each year you wait.

Author: WoodstockIrish (14678 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:15 pm on Jun 25, 2025
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Realizing or course some people have to take it at 62 to survive

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Yes and no.

Author: jakers (13884 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:37 pm on Jun 27, 2025
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The monthly amount does go up if you hold off on taking it, but in the end, you're likely to receive the same total dollar amount from the time you start until the day you die.

That said, it can be worth holding off a bit in some circumstances, such as if you expect your spouse to live significantly longer than you.


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If I was 62 I'd take it and invest it in crypto.

Author: iairishcheeks (27115 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:57 pm on Jun 25, 2025
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Whether it is even available to me in 17 years (I'm 45) is highly questionable.

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Agree. Waiting is the way to go.

Author: LanceManion (7937 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 3:24 pm on Jun 25, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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At age 63, Social Security and home equity is all my wife and I have

Author: MarkHarman (7275 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:08 am on Jun 25, 2025
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We'll probably have to work until we're 75 but that's okay.

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Sorry to hear that

Author: WoodstockIrish (14678 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:15 pm on Jun 25, 2025
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If you ever do a reverse mortgage, try to do it when interest rates are low. Higher rate means

Author: LanceManion (7937 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:44 am on Jun 25, 2025
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smaller lump sum payment.

I'm not advocating that approach, but it's a reality for many.

Anyway, best of luck, Mark.


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Thanks for posting this…kids in H.S., and certainly in college need to understand that basic concept

Author: TyroneIrish (20400 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:23 pm on Jun 24, 2025
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I.e. Capital growth vs Wage growth…and Time Value of Money.

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