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SCOTUS rules against the culture of death again.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59837 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 2:46 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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Can’t wait ti hear about the lost mammograms (which are widely available to all citizens) from the defunded abortion mills.

Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-rules-against-planned-parenthood-medicaid-funding-dispute

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Thread Level: 2

I doubt that the College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists would support this decision...

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:41 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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...from Baron's linked article...the assault on women's reproductive rights, especially those who are poor with little or no options, continues...
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The action essentially barred low-income patients from receiving other services from PPSAT in Columbia and Charleston, including gynecological exams, birth control, cancer screenings, and testing and treatment for sexually transmitted infections (STIs). Lower courts had put that order on hold, leading to the current case.
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Thread Level: 3

The Association of Yacht Dealerships also objects to the ruling.

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:13 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

That is funny stuff. You found your second calling.

Author: ELP (9548 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 6:18 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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As noted earlier...pursue a career in comedy at your own risk.

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:47 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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How are they going to feed their kids if you don't kill yours?

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:32 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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Link: https://youtu.be/5XchZEx2SP0?si=lJVFnqxSHsKz51KZ

Thread Level: 6

You can laugh about it if you prefer, but the reality for women is no joke...

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:34 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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...from a web search AI summary of "How many Forced or Coerced pregnancies are there each year?"...
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AI Overview

Estimating the precise number of forced or coerced pregnancies worldwide each year is challenging due to the hidden and sensitive nature of the issue. However, research provides some insights into the prevalence:

In the United States:

Rape and Sexual Coercion: An estimated over 5.9 million U.S. women have experienced a pregnancy resulting from rape, sexual coercion, or both during their lifetimes.
Lifetime Prevalence of Rape-Related Pregnancy: 3.4 million women in the U.S. have become pregnant as a result of rape during their lifetimes.

Intimate Partner Violence and Coercion: Intimate partners coerce thousands of women in the U.S. into pregnancy annually through various abusive tactics, including manipulation, threats, and interference with contraception or abortion access.

Worldwide:

Unintended Pregnancies: Sexual activity without effective contraception, either by choice or coercion, is the leading cause of unintended pregnancies.

Global Unintended Pregnancy Rate: The worldwide unintended pregnancy rate is approximately 45% of all pregnancies, totaling around 120 million unintended pregnancies annually. While not all unintended pregnancies are forced or coerced, these circumstances significantly contribute to this number.

Important Considerations:

Data limitations: Gathering precise data on forced or coerced pregnancies is difficult due to the underreporting of sexual violence and the private nature of such experiences.
Diverse Forms of Coercion: Coercion can include various forms of abuse and manipulation beyond physical violence, such as pressure to become pregnant, interference with contraception, and threats.

Focus on Prevention: Efforts to address this issue emphasize preventing intimate partner violence and ensuring access to comprehensive reproductive health services, including trauma-informed care.

While an exact yearly number is elusive, the provided information indicates that forced or coerced pregnancies are a significant issue impacting the lives of thousands of women annually.
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This is why the vast majority of Americans believe access to abortion should be legal and available "Under Certain Circumstances"...like Forced or Coerced Pregnacies...on the order of 90%...even in Catholic surveys. Note that given the limited time before 'Personhood' is generally accepted, there is no time for a legal judgement as to whether an abortion request is justified as Forced or Coerced...ergo, Abortion needs to be available to all women seeking it.

As I've mentioned many times, our goal needs to be the reduction in the number of abortions through a reduction in unwanted pregnancies...a) Contraception...b) Sex/Sexuality Education of all ages (even adults)...c) funded programs that make it feasible for women to carry pregnancies to term...if they so choose.

Back to you...since Ned hasn't replied.



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Hilariously false. Read the fine print, Bubba.

Author: jakers (13879 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:19 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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As noted, they're using a bullshit blanket to create a bundle of "forced pregnancies." As I've told you all along when you raise these McStats.

Thread Level: 8

What's your number?...Have you even considered women being victimized this way?

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:18 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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...BTW, Baron's own professional organization (ACOG) STRONGLY supports access to Abortion...another point, virtually 80% of OB/GYN Residents are now women...and they understand what their patients are going through.

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I don't have a "number." This isn't my claim, it's yours.

Author: jakers (13879 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:22 am on Jun 27, 2025
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What we do know is that yours is nonsense. And you're (of course) lumping a bunch of absurdly unrelated issues into your fake category of "coerced."

Thread Level: 10

Is this there first you've heard of forced or coerced pregnancies?...it's a real thing, and not at

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:35 pm on Jun 27, 2025
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all uncommon, unfortunately...estimates run into the millions of women victimized at any point in time. How can you simply discount women being subjected to life changing...and sometimes life-ending...attacks and show no concern whatever. This is incredible.

Thread Level: 7

How many of those are related to illegal immigration and human trafficking?

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:25 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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Thread Level: 8

You tell me.

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:59 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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Thread Level: 9

You're not interested in the root causes, you don't want to prevent this?

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:06 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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I, and many others, if not ALL want to reduce abortions...but not at the cost of innocent women's

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:22 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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lives, and well being, both physically and mentally. That's why extremists who won't tolerate abortion for such circumstances number about 1 out of 10. Stop closing your eyes to reality...you're not on the moral high ground here.

Thread Level: 11

I am pro abortion, it's good for the economy.

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:36 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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What do you say to the women forced or coerced into pregnancies they never wanted.?..and there are

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:53 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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millions of them in the U.S. at any point in time...

Thread Level: 13

If you need an abortion, you better get one.

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:06 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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Do you believe it should be legally available to all women wherever they live in the USA?

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:19 am on Jun 27, 2025
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Thread Level: 15

Yes, I already said I am pro abortion.

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:32 am on Jun 27, 2025
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The last thing we need is more unwanted children.

Thread Level: 16

Try to put your sarcasm aside for a moment and read what a female ND grad has to say about this

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:50 pm on Jun 27, 2025
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issue of abortion...and it's impact on women. Things obviously haven't changed for the better since this paper was written. Hopefully, you'll develop some sense of why the vast majority of Americans believe that under at least some circumstances, abortion needs to be available...on demand...everywhere.

Link: https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2021/09/08/texas-sb-8-heartbeat-abortion-women-241365

Thread Level: 17

Securing the border would prevent most "coerced pregnancies", but you don't support that.

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:36 am on Jun 28, 2025
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What an enlightened viewpoint. Seems obvious...

Author: NedoftheHill (44624 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:25 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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"The job of resolving how best to weigh those competing costs and benefits [of government spending] belongs to the people’s elected representatives, not unelected judges charged with applying the law as they find it."

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Indeed. States are not obligated to use tax payer money to pay the abortion mills. (and that is what

Author: BaronVonZemo (59837 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:54 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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they are....the rest of the "care" is used to provide cover for this.... like a terrorists hiding under a hospital so that any effort to stop the terrorism brings out cries about the hospital. That "other care" is available at a higher standard elsewhere - and by better trained professionals in most cases).

PP is about killing babies and making money doing it. The first thing they ask for is the credit card. And yes, I am quite familiar with their MO. Quite familiar.


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Seems like a good time to resurrect our discussion on the Abortion issue...you ready?

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:42 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

You don't discuss. You obfuscate and lie.

Author: NedoftheHill (44624 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 5:02 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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That's not true...I challenge you to cite even one example, Ned...seriously...back it up.

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:07 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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...especially wrt this issue of Abortion.

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Thread Level: 6

Your posts speak for themselves. Everyone knows. No need for discussion.

Author: NedoftheHill (44624 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:32 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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If I bring up an example, it will be just another excuse for you to repeat the lie. That is the pattern. I decline to play your little partisan game.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 7

Baloney…I have and continue to provide substantive backup for all my arguments…it’s how I’ve earned

Author: TyroneIrish (20373 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:23 pm on Jun 26, 2025
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a few nicknames ;-)…you’ve read them and can read the writing on the wall and it makes you uncomfortable, so you avoid finishing to the logical conclusion. btw, I'm still waiting for you to cite one post of mine where I've lied...you made the charge...now be a man and back it up.

Look, we’re all after the same objective…we’ll unfortunately never eliminate all abortions, but we can certainly achieve significant reductions…without sacrificing the lives of so many innocent women in the process.

Unwanted pregnancy is the root cause…let’s join together to tackle that problem.


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Thread Level: 8

Earned??? Bwahahahaha

Author: Frankx (5302 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 3:43 am on Jun 27, 2025
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