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Thomas Massie will be re-elected, quite possibly by a bigger margin than ever before.

Author: MAS (21442 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:06 pm on Jun 29, 2025
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Trump already has a primary opponent pegged to oust Massie. Trump doesn't think in terms of principles, so someone like Massie mystifies him. This is the basic reason that DeSantis (whom Massie endorsed for president) and his people haven't respected Trump and his people. The DeSantis folks correctly concluded that Trump isn't any sort of principled conservative. This is how Trump was so easily able to pivot on abortion once he figured that his previous stance hurt him and his endorsed candidates.

Touting his opposition to this budget should help Massie with his constituents, not hurt him. The GOP establishment tried oust his political mentor, Ron Paul, for years, and always failed. Newt led the charge back in the 80s/90s to get rid of Ron Paul. It all led up to this magical moment, which was so satisfying:


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He's one of the few principled folks in Congress

Author: iairishcheeks (27108 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:59 pm on Jun 29, 2025
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Except for this reality…..

Author: BaronVonZemo (59834 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:40 am on Jun 30, 2025
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……I was listening to a forum of national debt experts (and I believe their observations are ones that Trump is aware of as well)…..

The deficit is now so large that it is beyond the point where you can increase taxes and solve it. Further, we can no longer just “tighten our belts” enough to address it either. Doing both of these things together will help but still not resolve the problem AND it would shrink our economy which would further the deficit problem on its’ own right.

They concluded that the solution to the deficit problem now has only one possible solution (and Ronald Reagan would be proud). We need to supercharge the economy and grow our way out of the hole….with increased production and workers working, the amount of taxes taken in will be huge. Added to this will be increased intake from fair tariffs from new trade negotiations (these intakes of revenue have not been used in deficit calculations before, but they are real). We also need to pair these measures with cuts to waste,fraud, and abuse as well as try to resolve the illegal immigration problem left by Biden - borders are closed now under Trump, but the costs of 21 million to entitlements is massive and unavoidable (it is absurd and laughable to claim that we somehow come out ahead economically from this).

Trump knows if the budget deal doesn’t pass, then taxes go back up on corps who will again leave the US and shrink our economy. Passing the bill is just the start. Some of the spending in this bill is disgusting (SALT tax deductions especially), but they are required to get the thing passed.


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Our military spending exceeds the next 10 countries combined.

Author: iairishcheeks (27108 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:48 am on Jun 30, 2025
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Just go back to the 2019 budget and the problem is mostly solved.

Link: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-top-15-countries-by-military-budgets-in-2025/

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And Trump's recently successful push on NATO members will drastically cut that expense.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59834 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:06 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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