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Mamdani:"Abolish police, tax only white neighborhoods, seize means of production, celebrated

Author: BaronVonZemo (59892 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:06 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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the Challenger explosion online, and called violence a "social construct"

These are some of the known views that NYC's Democrat mayoral candidate has expressed in the past before he had a reason to hide his real thoughts and plans.


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This post got 5 stars!

Author: NedoftheHill (44665 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:05 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The more stars, the more that the post must have hit home, right?

Author: BaronVonZemo (59892 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:47 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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Right, and if he edits it, it will be obvious he's avoiding my question below.

Author: NedoftheHill (44665 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:34 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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*****

Author: ND521 (9409 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 5:55 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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More Clean Up after Baron's dumpings of misinformation...since BVZ provides no substance to backup

Author: TyroneIrish (20416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:24 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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his claims, I'll share with you Zohran's own words on the first "Drive By" attack from Baron...watch the whole FOX interview with Zohran, but go to the 5:55 mark for his response to the claim of him wanting to "Defund the Police"...it's anything but that...he wants to make sure that the NYPD can focus on solving crimes, not backfilling social safety net needs.




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He literally tweeted "Defund the NYPD." Not nuanced enough?

Author: jakers (13885 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:52 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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Listen to him...he did not call for defunding the NYPD...he's calling for additional funding to off

Author: TyroneIrish (20416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:00 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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load officers from dealing with situations that don't require the potential use of force...e.g. mental health issues. btw, other states have done this...e.g. Eugene, Oregon's PD has been doing this for years...to the satisfaction of Police Officers there.

btw, as I've posted previously, even the Charles Koch Foundation has called for "De-Militarizing" Police Forces...fewer SWAT Teams...more Community Involvement.


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That’s a recipe for disaster in a shit city like New York.

Author: Domer From Hell (16297 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:01 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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NYC is one of the world’s major cities and is suffering, as many other cities and states in this

Author: TyroneIrish (20416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:43 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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country from the effects of severe wealth inequality. Mamdani’s focus is on rectifying that problem…

Any additional suggestions on how to do that are welcome.

btw, I was born in NYC and spent my early formative years there…still have extended family ties in and around the city, so I admit to some degree of bias in favor of that powerful dwelling place for 8M+ souls.


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Defunding the police in any way is a dumb idea in a city that…

Author: Domer From Hell (16297 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:49 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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most assuredly needs more police. I’ve never lived in NYC, but having visited many times…I don’t like place. Voting in a socialist Dem is probably the stupidest idea in a long time.

We're all born bald baby!
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Mamdani's policies would allow a lot more NYPD police officers to actually live in the city and be

Author: TyroneIrish (20416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:19 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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part of their communities/boroughs.

btw, do you agree that something needs to be done about Wealth/Income Inequality...or just stay the course?


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Yeah, I don’t buy it. Look at Chicago…

Author: Domer From Hell (16297 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:36 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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It’s a mess because the local government has rendered the police powerless. Crime is up.

Wealth/Income inequality is a myth. I’m a firm believer that everyone should pull themselves up by their bootstraps. We all have the same opportunities in this country. I’m also a proponent of everyone paying their fair share. The top 1% pays 90% of taxes. If you think there should be reparations or redistribution of wealth, you’re barking up the wrong tree. I’m a never Trumper capitalist 100%.


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It's a great slogan, but doesn't represent reality...especially in today's economy.

Author: TyroneIrish (20416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:33 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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...here's a Google AI summary for the question 'In the U.S. does everyone have an equal opportunity to succeed?'
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AI Overview
No, not everyone in the U.S. has the same opportunity to succeed. While the U.S. is often idealized as the "land of opportunity," significant disparities exist based on factors like race, socioeconomic background, and geographic location. These disparities can create unequal starting points and limit upward mobility for certain groups.
Factors Contributing to Inequality:
Socioeconomic Status:
Children from wealthier families often have access to better education, healthcare, and resources, giving them a significant advantage in life.
Race and Ethnicity:
Historically, racial and ethnic minorities have faced systemic barriers to opportunity, including discrimination in education, employment, and housing.
Geographic Location:
Individuals born and raised in certain regions or neighborhoods may have limited access to quality schools, jobs, and healthcare, impacting their chances of success.
Educational Attainment:
While education is often seen as a pathway to success, disparities exist in access to quality education at all levels, from early childhood to higher education.
Access to Resources:
Unequal access to healthcare, healthy food, transportation, and other essential resources can create significant barriers to success.
Evidence of Inequality:
Wealth Gap:
The gap between the wealthiest and poorest Americans has widened over time, with wealth concentrated in the hands of a few.
Intergenerational Mobility:
Studies show that children from lower-income families are less likely to move up the economic ladder compared to their counterparts from wealthier backgrounds.
Racial Disparities in Education and Earnings:
Black and Hispanic individuals often face lower graduation rates and earn less than their white and Asian counterparts with similar levels of education.
Views on the American Dream:
Surveys indicate that a significant portion of Americans, particularly those from lower-income backgrounds, believe that the American dream is less attainable than it used to be.
Efforts to Address Inequality:
While significant challenges remain, there are ongoing efforts to address these disparities, including:
Affirmative Action:
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Policies aimed at increasing opportunities for underrepresented groups in education and employment.
Investments in Underserved Communities:
.
Programs focused on improving education, healthcare, and infrastructure in high-poverty areas.
Anti-discrimination Laws:
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Legislation aimed at protecting individuals from discrimination based on race, gender, religion, and other characteristics.
Educational Reform:
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Initiatives aimed at improving the quality of education for all students, regardless of background.
Conclusion:
While the ideal of equal opportunity remains a powerful symbol of the United States, the reality is that significant barriers to success persist for many Americans. Addressing these systemic inequalities requires ongoing efforts to level the playing field and ensure that everyone has a fair chance to achieve their potential.
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Our kids went to school in one of CA's finest School Districts, thanks in large measure to our community resources...that's not the case for other parts of CA, where those kids are at a serious disadvantage...you know how this works.


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Brother, link master.. you’re soooo lost.

Author: Frankx (5310 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 10:38 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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Wow. You find new apologist lows daily.

Author: jakers (13885 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:01 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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Author: jakers (13885 Posts - Original UHND Member)

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Ah, it's "additional funding!" How about you read his own words.

Author: jakers (13885 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:25 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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Read his tweets on 6/8/2020 and 6/28/2020. And a variety of others.

Spare me the pathos about "nuance." He doubled down on this one, and no one gives two craps about him trying to walk back his nonsense at this point.


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You’re not listening…he said he’d maintain the current level of police officers while

Author: TyroneIrish (20416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:31 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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creating a new Department of Community Safety which, from his commentary would handle the non-criminal work that police officers have become saddled with…again, not unlike what’s happened in other parts of the country.

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No, I didn't listen. Screw him.

Author: jakers (13885 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:59 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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I don't give a shit about the massaged message he's weaseling out now. He's a communist scumbag and belongs nowhere in American politics.

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Well, if you won't listen to him, then read what's been going on for 30 years in Eugene, Oregon

Author: TyroneIrish (20416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:53 pm on Jun 30, 2025
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where they've found that police officers don't need to respond to every single call...btw, many other cities in the U.S. have taken note, and it's likely that Mamdani has heard of that experience. Again...he's not "Defunding" the PD...he's making it more efficient and effective...what's not to like?

Link: https://www.usnews.com/news/cities/articles/2020-07-06/eugene-oregons-30-year-experiment-with-reimagining-public-safety

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He literally said he wants to defund the police. Clarified that point.

Author: jakers (13885 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:07 am on Jul 1, 2025
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Literally responded and said "no, we want to defund the police."

And comparing N.Y.C. to Eugene, Oregon is about the dumbest thing you could do here.


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Can't help you see the truth if you won't look at the evidence I provided...within the last few days

Author: TyroneIrish (20416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:18 am on Jul 1, 2025
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he's explained his policy for the NYPD...NO DEFUNDING...in fact he's ADDING services that allow Police to focus on CRIMES, not Social Safety Net issues. BTW, Eugene's PD has been in contact with NYPD even before Zohran Mamdani showed up.

Willful Ignorance is not something to be proud of, Jake.


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I sent you pure evidence. His own words. Quit pretending things.

Author: jakers (13885 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:09 pm on Jul 1, 2025
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What you sent were comments from 2020 in the midst of the George Floyd murder…

Author: TyroneIrish (20416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:17 pm on Jul 1, 2025
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After 5 years, Mamdani has modified his stance on Policing and if elected we’ll see how he handles the Public Safety issue. It’s wrong to not allow him latitude given his rational explanation…if you watch him answer the question.

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So he's "changed his mind," eh? No longer a dangerous communist radical.

Author: jakers (13885 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:54 am on Jul 2, 2025
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