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If the Big Bill fails?

Author: Curly1918 (16447 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 7:27 am on Jul 1, 2025
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Is there any chance at all that the two parties decide on a compromise for the benefit of the country?

Or are we hopelessly divided as a country?


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It passed.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:27 pm on Jul 1, 2025
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The ransom is too high for any compromises to happen.

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:41 am on Jul 1, 2025
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All of these big bills are loaded with pork, waste and unintended consequences. If we are to solve problems and reduce debt, a third party will have to do it.

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God willing. One of the worst pieces of legislation in memory. Cuts health care to the poor and

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:00 am on Jul 1, 2025
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working class to extend tax cuts to rich people while still managing to raise the deficit by 3.3 trillion. Trifecta time MAGA freaks.

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That's not the problem. The problem is it doesn't cut everything else.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:25 am on Jul 1, 2025
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As far as the poor, why does no one think about the future poor? Only current poor count, so we destroy our nation with debt, the future poor be damned.

This is how I know people aren't serious about an issue.

For example, if someone is serious about climate change, they would try to balance the budget so that our nation could help address the issue for the next 100-200 years. But, they don't. They are quite willing to destroy the nation with debt (a nation with the most ability to address the issue) for a little more power for their party and donors right now, the future be damned.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Once again...it was the Clinton admin that led the way to a budget surplus by diligently working

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:02 am on Jul 1, 2025
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with Republicans...and all affected parties (e.g. Government Employees) to reduce spending...and increase taxes on the wealthiest Americans, as well as corporations. That is the Democratic Party strategy today...unfortunately, there aren't enough rational Republicans to close the deal.

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As usual, you are way out in right field. The problem is we take care of current wealthy. That

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:54 am on Jul 1, 2025
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tax cut extension is an abomination that we can’t afford. I say that as one who benefits from it. If we got rid of that, then talk about cuts to the poorest of Americans. It’s ass backward. If we can’t afford the Medicaid program how do we afford the tax cut extension that adds 3.3 trillion to the debt?

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Looks as though Ned is hopelessly in love with Ayn Rand and 'Objectivism'...i.e. it's against the

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:29 am on Jul 1, 2025
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rules to do anything nice for anyone else...hence the Bromance for Trump.

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What I found interesting about his post is that it focused on the Medicaid cuts and said nothing

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:59 am on Jul 1, 2025
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about that fiscal embarrassment of a tax cut extension. I am not saying entitlements don’t need cuts and that some lower income folks are gonna get hurt. But cutting benefits while extending tax cuts to the richest which will add 3.3 trilllion to the deficit is moronic. That is pure Trumpism which his working class followers will swallow with no problems as they agree with his culture war items. Sad and disturbing.

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There is so much fraud, waste, and abuse of Medicaid... there is plenty of cutting available that

Author: IrishMac (1684 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:06 pm on Jul 1, 2025
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will not impact the poor in receiving healthcare.

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Show us how much is waste and where it is...while you're at it, show us how millions of Americans

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:33 pm on Jul 1, 2025
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suddenly denied HC will be taken care of going forward.

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1 trillion of it? Sure.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:44 pm on Jul 1, 2025
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Good example of the problem, Frank. Fiscal responsibility is way out in right field.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:13 am on Jul 1, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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How are Trillion Dollar Tax Breaks, for those who don't need them, Fiscally Responsible?

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:50 pm on Jul 1, 2025
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You can always pay more in taxes.

Author: PaND (2720 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 10:16 am on Jul 1, 2025
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Strange that the libs never do that.

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That is strange.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:13 am on Jul 1, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:18 am on Jul 1, 2025
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libs won’t vote for anything that looks like a Trump win.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:37 am on Jul 1, 2025
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They will vote for health care that will take away from the U.S. poor & give it to illegals

Author: ELP (9578 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 9:13 am on Jul 1, 2025
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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Chicago, Boston, NYC.

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Wow...you have no problem making stuff up...all while closing your eyes to the undeniable fact that

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:45 pm on Jul 1, 2025
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our national debt will soar by Trillions of dollars...the hypocrisy is mind boggling.

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