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Ironically, Christ’s message focused on personal salvation not social justice. The latter was promised by Karl Marx… but only at the cost of the brutal “elimination” of the middle class bourgeoisie.

same vein as the attached...entitled "Loving God in our Neighbor"...Spreading "Love" throughout the world (our neighbors on this planet) seems to fit well with Christ's teachings/messaging...and demonstrating it through organizations like USAID, is a tangible way of doing that...as different U.S. political parties have done.

You'd be wise(r) to take a few moments and read the linked article.


Link: https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/loving-god-in-our-neighbor

Yes, Jesus was the prophet of personal empathy (the Beatitudes refer to how best to live one’s life… but not to control the lives of others). There is absolutely nothing in his life or teachings that inspired Marx, Lenin, Stalin,Mao, Castro or Zohran.

way. As an attorney, don't you use references to back up your contention?...btw, all I'm seeing thus far is your opinion, with nothing to back it up.

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Cursed are those who oppose government OCD by repressive elites for they shall be sent to the gulags

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Not a beatitude, obviously (but perhaps from the passage you meant), but the sheep and goats sermon exposes the Leftist social justice folks.

The physical world (helping the poor, even by use of government force) becomes more important than the spiritual world (where the sheep end up). They miss the point of Jesus' teaching entirely.

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His life was an example of how a human should live his or her own life… end of story

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I just don’t recall Jesus advocating for anything political OR hanging with megalomaniac billionaires.

I just feel we need to be careful about speaking for God and using Scripture as a means to our ends. Were not Jesus' followers shocked at His calling of the hated tax collector and were not the same followers befuddled at the healing of the the Roman soldier's daughter and did not Jesus forgive and embrace the thief at the crucifixion when no one else would? I think we need to give God an infinite amount of latitude when it comes to His ways. Just my opinion.

I don't think you actually believe that. I think you are just trolling.

today in America without papers your kind would put him in Alligator Alcatraz as an undesirable Middle Easterner.

Now we are talking about the border? Are you now for an open border...allow 8 billion into the US? If you would draw a line and stop short of that, how would you explain that to Jesus?

Jesus certainly had legal issues with authorities in Judea/Rome, but I don't recall him calling for wholesale ignoring of the law. He basically called for individuals to tolerate government in many respects, but not use it or oppose it (he didn't forbid the latter, he just didn't address it).

I'll wait for your post attacking our military personnel for not turning the other cheek, even though Church Doctrine allows defensive violence. Round and round we go in your desperate attempt to score points on the board. I'll let you have the last word.

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Nothing is stopping you crybaby Dem lefties from volunteer work or if you're too busy to volunteer because you're hanging out on message boards all day, help out with financial donations, food, and or clothing donations. But the real crime here is you using the poor as an object. Get your fat lazy asses out there and actually do something instead of bitching about the other guy not doing anything.

others less fortunate, yet you make direct accusations against "Dem Lefties". That is without doubt, pure slander...what the heck is wrong with you?

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You're still stalking me which is still pretty weird.

you know absolutely nothing about them?...let's try that for starters.

btw, no one's stalking you...just disagreeing with the many false statements you make...like the one above. Easy solution for you...think before you post and be able to backup what you claim.

Instead, you all spend your time bitching about how people are going to die and people with AIDS and Trump cuts and MAGA and this so called scripture lecture and on and on and on. You all hear and read what you want to hear and read. Instead of crying and bitching about MAGA and the poor, ,go out and do something for them through Catholic Charities and St Vincent DePaul. I never said any of you haven't had before. That was my message then and that's my message now. You already know that though. I also had to explain to you often that you're not on an MSNBC panel discussion and I am not availablle at your beckon call for debate. So, if you and your commrades are done for now with your tantrums, we can move on to your next hysteria. Meanwhile, you tend to stalk others too I noticed so that's an issue that your going to have to address. It's weird for a grown adult to act like that.

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"Nothing is stopping you crybaby Dem lefties from volunteer work or if you're too busy to volunteer because you're hanging out on message boards all day, help out with financial donations, food, and or clothing donations. But the real crime here is you using the poor as an object. Get your fat lazy asses out there and actually do something instead of bitching about the other guy not doing anything."
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You have no possible justification for that statement...i.e. you know nothing at all about anyone else's assistance, yet you accuse others of not pitching in and helping. I know you won't admit your error, but all who read what you've posted will know. I never dreamed we'd have people such as yourself inhabiting a Notre Dame message board.

Takes all kinds...

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The fact that you boast about your volunteer work while lecturing others is a huge tell about your character Mr Dudley. You ain't fooling anyone.

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If you're going to try and use Scrpiture, use it all the time, not just when it's convenient. Democrats are good like that. The problem with you Dem Marxist lefties is you all aren't used to being challenged and that's where the TDS tantrums come in .Living in a bubble does that.

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I don't recall that Sermon.

Or don’t you think he cares either way right now as he sits at the right hand of the Father?

My point was that he never called for the use of government force to redistribute wealth, and that is because (1) his goal was not to redistribute wealth, and (2) he knew using government force to do that would be counterproductive of his actual goal to convert souls for Heaven.

He didn't come to treat the sick himself. If he did, he failed. He used healing as a means to an end, the conversion of souls. He never called on Rome to treat the sick. He called on you and I to fund those efforts voluntarily. He never called for social justice. He called for individual charity.

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I certainly have never made a statement about whether or not Trump is righteous, so I don't have to defend any such statement, thankfully. Frankly, I find him personally annoying, and many of his actions to be problematic...and yet he is strangely effective at many good things, and he was still the better of the two options available to us at election time.

But, you are the one who is bringing Trump into this. I commented against social justice Catholic Leftists who like to pat themselves on the back for taking money from other people...something Jesus never asked them to do.

the poorest people in the world, a program by the way not political in any way? Just something done out of basic human decency?

Charity is how I can actually help someone with my own money and time, and convert their soul to good ("You didn'thave to give that to me, and yet you did. Thank you!") and my soul to good (It feels good to make sacrifices for others.").

Social justice is how I can help someone with someone else's money, using the power of government to take money from people, which hardens the heart of potential givers ("I pay taxes! I don't have to give anything more.") and hardens the heart of the receiver ("These are entitlements. I'm entitled to your money!")

Social justice supporters forget that Jesus was not a lobbyist, and never asked the government to do anything.

Social justice supporters forget that Jesus did not come to improve the lot of the poor. Improving the lot of the poor through charity is a means to the end, not the end itself. Social justice supporters seek to make charity unnecessary, and thereby undermine one of the best, if not the best, ways to convert souls...through charity from all to all.

Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster.