Ten Truths that should be agreed upon by all.
Repost of a response to Quest, the order is unimportant:
1. Biden was unfit to serve
2. CoVid escaped from a lab
3. Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction
4. The government spied on citizens after 9/11 and lied about it
5. Russian collusion was mostly bullshit
6. Obama was an American citizen
7. CoVid vaccines did not prevent infection or spread, and we knew that
8. The laptop was real
9. Mexico was never going to pay for the wall
10. The 2020 election wasn't stolen
Feel free to suggest your own and as the boards designated Neutral Observer, I will consider inclusion to the list.
Replies to: Ten Truths that should be agreed upon by all.
My take...
1. Up until the debate, JB did his job exceptionally well, both domestically and internationally...orders of magnitude better than Trump, who should be in prison right now.
2. Until China provides scientific data, no one can make that call...since COVID-1 was Zoonotic, the odds are that COVID-2 was as well.
3. Agreed
4. Not really...Clapper, et al, collected "Metadata"...not 'Dossier Files' of citizens.
5. 100% Wrong...as proven by the 2020 GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee Report Vol. 5 which documented multiple examples of Collusion between Trump and Putin's minions. Mueller was unable to meet the strict legal finding due to obstruction and 5th Amendment actions by the Trump campaign supporters.
6. He still is.
7. The initial mRNA vaccines exceeded expectations...~95% effective against transmission, hospitalization and death. Unfortunately, less than optimal acceptance by the U.S. public allowed variants to form that weakened the effectiveness against transmission...but not against serious illness or death. No one ever promised perfection...there were no lies promoted by the CDC, NIH, etc.
8. While MacIssac couldn't ID the person who dropped off the laptop, the hardware isn't the issue...the DATA was in unknown hands for months before the FBI got it...and computer forensic experts found files added AFTER the laptop was dropped off. "Chain of Custody" is non-existent...anything, by anyone could be on it...hence the suspicion by 51 experienced Intel Agents.
9. Agreed, but anyone with an ounce of "Critical Thinking" figured that out...unfortunately, MAGAs lack that skill.
10. Even DJT's Campaign Manager, Attorney General, White House Counsel, and 60+ Judgements attested to that fact...yet, DJT still wants someone to find those 11,780 votes in Georgia. Here's hoping he gets to plead his case to a jury once he leaves office.
Neutral? Bwahahahaha
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Agreed.
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4 and 5 are not true.
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7 is also a lie. Additionally while I think COVID was a lab leak there is no definitive proof.
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On #5
We’ve been through this many times. You can’t learn.
Collusion is a specific crime.
Russia helped Trump in 2016.
Link: https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections
There is no specific crime called "collusion", you lose.
These things are true:
1. Russia attempted to interfere in the election with limited success.
2. Trump welcomed the help publicly.
3. Crimes were uncovered and prosecuted
4. The Trump campaign did not conspire or coordinate with Russia in their efforts. - this is what makes the claim of "Russian Collusion" bullshit.
Link: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/12/what-is-collusion-215366#:~:text=Renato%20Mariotti%20is%20a%20former,those%20servers%20committed%20a%20crime.
Do you remember the timing of the WIkileaks release?
Do you remember that it just happened to occur right after the "grab 'em by the pussy" recording?
How do you think Wikileaks got that info? Who hacked the DNC?
And who released it, when asked to by Roger Stone?
Hint: The Russians
They did so work together. And Manafort provided the Russkies with internal GOP voter data so they could target their propaganda.
There were multiple lines of coordination.
Why didn't Mueller charge them with the specific crime of collusion (that doesn't exist)?
There is zero evidence anyone "colluded" with Russian hackers or WikiLeaks on the Podesta spearfishing operation that was a result of incompetence.
Manafort was essentially running a Hunter Biden scheme. Manafort was attempting to profit on his position in the campaign, everything he was charged with was related to this graft
"The Mueller report found that Manafort shared polling data with Kilimnik but couldn't definitively determine the purpose or what Kilimnik did with it, partly due to questions about Manafort's credibility. The Senate Intelligence Committee's report also stated Manafort sought to pass sensitive polling data and strategy to Kilimnik, identified as a Russian intelligence officer, but couldn't confirm the reason or what happened to the information. "
You're starting from a conclusion and trying to find supporting evidence, while ignoring or denying all other evidence. You even made up a "specific crime" which doesn't exist, but supports the bullshit that you really, really wish was true.
Mueller was looking for chargeable offenses
All he found was extensive cooperation and obstruction.
Which is apparently cool with you.
Link: https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/is-collusion-a-crime.html
Did you even read your own link?
"Even though collusion is not a crime itself, there are criminal offenses characterized by collusive acts."
"he [Mueller] concluded that there was insufficient evidence to show conspiracy or coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia
Case closed.
On #4
AI Summary:
Edward Snowden, a former NSA contractor, leaked classified documents in 2013 that revealed the extent of the National Security Agency's surveillance programs. The documents disclosed that the NSA was collecting data on the electronic communications of both US citizens and foreign nationals. A significant portion of the intercepted data, estimated at 90%, was from ordinary internet users, not the intended surveillance targets.
The leaked documents revealed several key surveillance programs, including PRISM, which involved the collection of data from major internet companies' servers. Another program, XKeyscore, allowed analysts to search through vast amounts of intercepted communications. Additionally, the NSA was found to be collecting metadata from phone calls, including phone numbers, call durations, and location data.
Snowden's disclosures sparked intense debate about the balance between national security and individual privacy. While some defended the programs as necessary for national security, others criticized them as a violation of privacy rights and civil liberties. The revelations also led to calls for greater transparency and oversight of government surveillance activities.
Some key points about the Snowden leaks:
Scope of Surveillance:
The NSA was collecting vast amounts of data on internet and phone communications.
Incidental Collection:
A large portion of the intercepted data was from ordinary citizens, not the intended targets.
Impact on Privacy:
The leaks raised serious concerns about the privacy of individuals' communications.
Public Debate:
The disclosures sparked public debate about the role of surveillance in a democratic society.
Calls for Reform:
There were calls for greater transparency and oversight of surveillance programs.
Link: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/07/james-clapper-apologizes-to-congress-for-clearly-erroneous-testimony
The NSA was not “spying.” There is no point in explaining it to you.
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I take the win by default.
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And of course, #10 is wrong.
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Huh? You really think the 2020 election was stolen?
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Of course he does.
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On #10
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Link: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2103619118
The suspension of ID laws was the holy grail finally provided to Dems with prolonged COVID Shut Down
It is one of the big reasons WHY dems worked to prolong Shut Down (and then they found how useful such control was and wanted it extended indefinitely - we owe DeSantis much for breaking their narrative with demonstrable proof.
The ID law suspensions in key battleground states combined with a sophisticated ballot harvesting program and innaccurate voter rolls allowed cheating with no provable evidence - the voter roll exists as it is (dead people, people who moved, etc) and such votes do not turn up on your study.
In MI, Whitmer & Jocelyn Benson resisted R requests to update the roll.
Fake names on roll, ballots mailed out to harvesters, ballots entered and counted - all looks legal…..(before COVID +harvesting, these ballots would simply have gone unused.
….or you can believe that Sleepy Joe got more turn out by far than any POTUS in history from Dems blowing away even Obama
#7 is 1/2 wrong. The COVID vax did prevent inf against strains was designed for at the time, BUT
it did NOT prevent spread to others which Fauci and the Biden CDC/NIH said that it did.
They could not make the claim that it did without studies showing it to be true, yet they said it anyways and later admitted under oath that there were no such studies.
Thus, they lied and used it as an excuse to FORCE vaccinations on people who didn’t want them…..which is called “assault” and is evil not to mention criminal (thus the Fauci pardon necessary…the whole thing would be fully exposed if Fauci faced criminal prosecution. The High Sparrow would sing like a canary.
The 87.4% effectiveness against infection was good, but the absolute declarations were false.
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Definitely so, as were the lies that it prevented spread.
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It was in line with the clinical trials. Never tested against transmission.
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Testing against spread was never part of the program...protection against Symptomatic Infection and
Serious Illness or Death, was...and the mRNA vaccines performed beyond hope and expectations.
Read the attached "Fact Check"...
Link: https://www.factcheck.org/2022/10/scicheck-its-not-news-nor-scandalous-that-pfizer-trial-didnt-test-transmission/
The problem here is that Biden and others told us it prevented transmission. You get that, right?
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Correct, and without ever being tested, Fauci stated it prevented spread- hence the lie
which was used as the excuse to force vaccinations on the unwilling at the peril of their livelihood.
Agreed.
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Pretty accurate, other than possibly number 9, as Mexico supplied much border patrol that somewhat
paid for the wall because we didn't have to. I knew a check wasn't going to be written but they would pay somehow.