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Stasi!

Author: conorlarkin (21052 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:54 pm on Jul 10, 2025
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Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/10/us/politics/fbi-polygraph-kash-patel.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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Got that feeling?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:12 pm on Jul 10, 2025
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https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.tvtropes.org%2Fpmwiki%2Fpub%2Fimages%2Fwestbatman_2713.jpg&f=1&ipt=c806672f505404b609fda540469be35540ebf0f46e6b1a9e259c30deea4f0d06

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Is that not odd to you?

Author: Domer From Hell (16417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:46 pm on Jul 10, 2025
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Several agencies do this, and the practice predated Trump.

Author: NedoftheHill (44715 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:06 pm on Jul 10, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I did answer in body of response below

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:00 pm on Jul 10, 2025
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Well yeah, Adam West looks a bit wierd in tights, but it’s Batman.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:52 pm on Jul 10, 2025
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Regarding the link from conor - it’s paywalled as always & he knows it.

But seeing just the title…..this is a fully expected consequence of thd Deep Statd activity in Trump’s first go sround….and quite necessary as they can (and have) done real damage.
Consider the pronouncement of conor himself who as a marine officer would openly brag that he would disobey the chain of command of a legal order (as determined by US courts) ftom President Trump.
Leftist fuckers are crazy.


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If the policy is true, seems paranoid and un-American

Author: Domer From Hell (16417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:16 pm on Jul 10, 2025
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Why have you stayed silent on conor’s treason vow? Does code trump allegiance for marines?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:23 am on Jul 11, 2025
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And yeah, I’m not a marine. So lets get that response out of the way.

Ned answered your query about the practice of polygraphs above.
I dont know if their accuaracy is better or whether they are now using computer evals w more sophisticated tech &parametera.

Others govt agencies have been doing it since before Trump and Deep staters who think like conor make it necessary.


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Cite where and when other agencies have done “loyalty…

Author: Domer From Hell (16417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:32 am on Jul 11, 2025
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polygraphs” in the past. It isn’t normal.

As far as Conor…I thought we covered this before. Is there something new that I missed while I was working?


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I guess we will need you to define how a "loyalty polygraph" differs from the usual polygraphs.

Author: NedoftheHill (44715 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:32 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The Normal polygraphs that the FBI, CIA, and other alphabet agencies…

Author: Domer From Hell (16417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:03 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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Are designed to test agents loyalty to the country. The one being administered by Bongino and Patel is to test agents loyalty to Trump. I’m sure you see the difference now.

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Not since the judges ruled confirming legality of Trump’s NG orders in Cali

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:41 am on Jul 11, 2025
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Please understand that I dont include you in my views of conor. As a former marine officer, he broadcast on the internet that he would break chain of command and disregard orders given to deploy his unit. Instead he would throw a beer party for his unit.

Is this the quality of the marines?

I give him no respect as he does not deserve it. I do the same for bad and unethical doctors who break their oath.


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Got it and as I stated then…

Author: Domer From Hell (16417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:54 am on Jul 11, 2025
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I would follow ALL direct orders in accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

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Ok, you won’t criticize your own.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:56 am on Jul 11, 2025
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Sure I do. I believe Conor is implying that the orders given to the NG…

Author: Domer From Hell (16417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:15 am on Jul 11, 2025
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are unlawful. As I mentioned in the past, I don’t believe they were. While I don’t believe his opinion to be treasonous, I don’t agree with his stance on the deployment of the NG.

Having said that, I also don’t believe deploying the NG was necessary, but it is the President’s prerogative to deploy them as he sees fit.


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Beyond that, polygraphs are garbage and unscientific. When I was in high school, one of my teachers

Author: MAS (21489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:27 pm on Jul 10, 2025
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invited a psych prof in every year with basically the equivalent of a polygraph, which tracked heart rate, body temp, et cetera. I volunteered to be hooked up in front of the class because I was curious about its legitimacy. In less than two minutes of being hooked up to it, I began to figure out how to lower my heart rate and body temp. He had some auditory gizmo hooked up as well, and if your heart rate and body temp rose, it would squeal higher and higher. For the kid before me, it was squealing the whole time. After a short period, I had it sounding like bass. The teacher said, "Frankly, no one has ever taken it as low as MAS." I am 100% confident in saying that bright people can figure out how to "fool" polygraph machines, and I know it has happened before in high-profile criminal cases. I may be wrong, but I believe Kenneth Bianchi, one of the Hillside Stranglers, did this at some point when detained by police.

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