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Fiscal responsibility and illegal immigration.

Author: Curly1918 (16474 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:21 am on Jul 11, 2025
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Query #1: If we have already easily stopped the inflow COLD... why do we have to spend billions on a wall?

Query #2: Rather than spend billions on ICE roundups, why can't we just cutoff all benefits for illegals and offer them a reasonable sum and a free plane ticket to return to their homeland?

We could resolve the problem and save ourselves a boatload... or are Republicans in love with this issue for political reasons?

Of course, Dems would oppose this approach... for their own political reasons.

We seem doomed by our own political system and human nature.


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Thread Level: 2

The LAST thing we should do is stop Immigration COLD...our GDP depends on them...they are a NET

Author: TyroneIrish (20569 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:25 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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BENEFIT to the USA. While our current system needs improvement...a solution was reached during Biden's term with the bipartisan Senate Border Security and Immigration Bill...which Trump killed in order to use the issue as a campaign cudgel against Biden...it worked, and is still working...even conning folks like you.

Here's an AI summary of the issue...
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Q: Are immigrants necessary in the U.S.?

In discussions about immigration, a central question arises regarding its necessity for the United States. Evidence suggests that immigrants play a crucial role in the American economy and workforce.

Here's why immigrants are considered necessary:

Filling Labor Shortages:
Immigrants often fill jobs that U.S.-born workers are unable or unwilling to do, particularly in sectors such as agriculture and construction.
They are also vital in supporting an aging population, as the U.S. faces a growing number of retirees and a shrinking native-born workforce.
Immigrant workers are essential for the direct care workforce, a sector projected to have millions of job openings in the coming decade, according to the National Skills Coalition.

Driving Economic Growth:
Immigrants contribute to the economy by expanding the labor force and increasing consumer spending.
They are more likely to start businesses, leading to job creation and economic vitality.
Immigrants are a significant source of innovation and have played a role in the development of many patents and the founding of numerous Fortune 500 companies.

Supporting the Aging Population and Fiscal Programs:
Immigrants help address the demographic challenges of an aging society by boosting the working-age population and contributing to the Social Security and Medicare trust funds.

Their contributions, including taxes paid, help support essential services and infrastructure.


In summary
Immigrants are essential to the United States for their contributions to the labor force, their impact on economic growth and innovation, and their role in sustaining essential services and support for the aging population.

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That's what the southern Democrats said about 1st slavery then civil rights.

Author: iairishcheeks (27294 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:34 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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"Virtual Slave Labor" is a NET BENEFIT!

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Those Southern Democrats are now Republicans…and today’s Democrats crafted a bipartisan Bill to

Author: TyroneIrish (20569 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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Resolve both Immigration and border security concerns…thus allowing undocumented immigrants to quickly become “Documented”…and “Legal”…no longer in the shadows being paid substandard wages.

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Apparently not, the only people here that want "virtual slave wages" are Democrats.

Author: iairishcheeks (27294 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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Fresh lettuce, fresh towels and fresh victims.

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Were you asleep or under the influence when Trump demanded the

Author: TyroneIrish (20569 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:45 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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Senate Border/Immigration Bill be killed?…or when he called on Congress in 2019 to FINALLY pass legislation and FIX our problems?…whatever the reason, you’re ignorant and clueless about this issue.

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Even John Kerry agrees, Joe shit the bed on immigration.

Author: iairishcheeks (27294 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:28 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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It’s documented fact…not opinion…that Biden’s admin worked together with Rep. Senators

Author: TyroneIrish (20569 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:34 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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to craft a Bill that exceeded what Trump called for in 2019…yet DJT killed it…to keep his #1 issue alive.

Thread Level: 9

It's documented fact that Trump solved it without Congress.

Author: iairishcheeks (27294 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:21 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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See any more immigration judges reducing the time for “documented Stu’s” from 6 years to 6 months?…

Author: TyroneIrish (20569 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:22 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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See any high speed fentanyl scanners at our border checkpoints covering each of the tens of thousands of cars and trucks going north into the U.S.?…

DJT wouldn’t have called for Congressional Action in 2019 if he didn’t need to ….now court cases are pilling up over his disregard for our laws and Constitution.

Trump has fixed NOTHING.


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Yrrrrrrrrpppppppp

Author: Frankx (5363 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 7:37 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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Brain worms, Frank?…get well soon.

Author: TyroneIrish (20569 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:25 pm on Jul 11, 2025
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I feel bad for people that live sheltered lives. There’s a big world out there

Author: Frankx (5363 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 7:36 am on Jul 12, 2025
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What specific benefits do "illegal" immigrants qualify? Also, your question is rhetorical

Author: Quest4twelve (6734 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:57 am on Jul 11, 2025
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Absolutely, MAGA loves this issue as a political football. You would think there is no crime, murder, violence before people crossed the border.

Asylum was attempted to be reformed in the bill that was turned down by Trump and his lackies last year.


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The U.S. does offer free transportation and a cash bonus to many categories of non-violent

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4620 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:51 am on Jul 11, 2025
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Illegal aliens to self deport. There is even an App for it!

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Thread Level: 3

This needs to be promoted more publicly.

Author: Curly1918 (16474 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:49 am on Jul 11, 2025
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We see it on TV all the time

Author: WoodstockIrish (14695 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:22 am on Jul 11, 2025
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Are these run on any Spanish language channels?

Author: Curly1918 (16474 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:39 am on Jul 11, 2025
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Of just on Fox to appease MAGA fans?

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spanish-language_television_networks_in_the_United_States

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And US is in process of cutting off at least some benefits incentivizing migration

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:56 am on Jul 11, 2025
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Please list the benefits they receive.

Author: Quest4twelve (6734 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:58 am on Jul 11, 2025
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Example at link for CHNV. Read past paragraph

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4620 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:55 am on Jul 11, 2025
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Link: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/06/12/dhs-issues-notices-termination-chnv-parole-program-encourages-parolees-self-deport

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