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"Americans have made a U-Turn on immigration since 2024 election"...Trump's #1 Issue...

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:32 am on Jul 14, 2025
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...from the attached article...
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Americans’ views of immigration have swung drastically upward in the past year, with a new poll showing record-high support for immigration amid President Donald Trump’s controversial mass deportation campaign.

A record 79 percent of American adults think immigration is good for the country, according to a new Gallup poll released Friday. And the number of Americans who want immigration reduced dropped sharply from 55 to 30 percent since last year’s poll.

Meanwhile, disapproval of Trump’s immigration approach outweighs approval by 27 percent, potentially complicating the president’s strategy on a policy area that he has made a cornerstone of his presidential agenda.

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What will GOP Mid-Term candidates run on?...Epstein Files?...


Link: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/11/trump-immigration-crackdown-poll-00448342?nid=00000170-c000-da87-af78-e185fa700000&nname=politico-nightly&nrid=00000158-4a69-d56c-afdd-6a695f020000

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Replies to: "Americans have made a U-Turn on immigration since 2024 election"...Trump's #1 Issue...


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How do your handlers feel about all of the Trump voters you've created on these websites?

Author: jakers (13921 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:44 am on Jul 14, 2025
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Read the Gallup poll...I appreciate you imagining me doing the work of a cast of "Handlers" but

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:53 am on Jul 14, 2025
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I'm just one guy doing my best to provide factual and substantiated data for your and everyone else's benefit...you're welcome.

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Oh, don't misunderstand it as a compliment (i.e., you doing to work of many).

Author: jakers (13921 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:39 am on Jul 14, 2025
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I'm talking about the nonsensical propaganda ferreted out for you people to go puking up on various boards.

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As I've said many times...feel free to challenge me...but bring substance if you do...not just

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:45 am on Jul 14, 2025
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opinion.

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I brought substance - in spades - about HCQ+ and you ignored it

Author: MarkHarman (7292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:15 pm on Jul 14, 2025
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For anyone else curious about this issue, read the attached paper authored by Dr. Risch's fellow

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:01 pm on Jul 14, 2025
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Editors at the American Journal of Epidemiology, in which they explain why they criticize him for his shoddy and inaccurate paper supporting HCQ+ that they mistakenly published...be sure to click on the "PDF" button for details...for convenience, here's the Abstract..

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Abstract

In May, this journal published an opinion piece by one of the members of the Editorial Board, Dr. Harvey Risch, that reviewed several papers and argued that using hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) + azithromycin (AZ) early to treat symptomatic COVID-19 cases in high-risk patients should be broadly applied. As members of the journal's editorial board, we are strongly supportive of open debate in science, which is essential even on highly contentious issues. However, we must also be thorough in our examination of the facts and open to changing our minds when new information arises. In this commentary, we document several important errors in the manuscript by Dr. Risch, review the literature he presented and demonstrate why it is not of sufficient quality to support scale up of HCQ+AZ, and then discuss the literature that has been generated since his publication, which also does not support use of this therapy. Unfortunately, the current scientific evidence does not support HCQ+AZ as an effective treatment for COVID-19, if it ever did; and even suggests many risks. Continuing to push the view that it is an essential treatment in the face of this evidence is irresponsible and harmful to the many people already suffering from infection.

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Link: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7499476/

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Are you really this dense or do you just play that part on this board?

Author: MarkHarman (7292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:49 pm on Jul 14, 2025
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For the hundredth time, YOU KEEP LINKING TO STUFF THAT WAS WRITTEN BEFORE HE AUTHORED HIS DEFINITIVE PAPER.

In his paper, which you infamously and stubbornly refuse to read, he answers each and every one of those criticisms. He threw out the studies that proved unreliable. His critics were relying on flawed studies themselves to criticize him - something you would know if you bothered to read his paper.

All we need to know is this link states the later-proven false assertion HCQ caused cardiac issues. Ty, seriously, you are ignorant and uninformed on this issue and keep relying on outdated links to allegedly rebut Dr. Risch. Unless you're willing to read Dr. Risch's paper, you have no grounds whatsoever to be commenting on this issue.


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Let me know if Dr. Risch’s peers at Yale and the American Journal of Epidemiology change their

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:00 pm on Jul 14, 2025
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opinions and support HCQ+…or if the NYT writes an article extolling Dr. Risch's paper...or if the WHO suddenly champions the treatment.

Don't let Dr. Risch's failure drag you down...face reality and ditch him.


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What I've learned is logic, facts and reason don't work with you

Author: MarkHarman (7292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:02 am on Jul 15, 2025
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I'll ask you again. How do you explain Dr. Fareed's (and his colleagues, for that matter) great success using HCQ+ within five days of symptom onset in vulnerable-age patients?

I await your answer.


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Hardly...I showed you evidence of Dr. Risch's peers at Yale and his publication publicly rebuking

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:38 pm on Jul 14, 2025
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him for his misguided position on HCQ+...as well as scientific studies that proved the drug combo didn't...and couldn't treat COVID-19...scores of posts and links, Mark...but you refused to accept reality...NO medical institution in the USA prescribes HCQ+ for such use.

And all of this was decided before I joined UHND's Open Forum...I've just been trying to help you understand the truth regarding that matter...apparently, to no avail.


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I guess you really are that dense

Author: MarkHarman (7292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:03 pm on Jul 14, 2025
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Again, NOT ONE STUDY showing HCQ+ to be ineffective was conducted using HCQ+ the way it is supposed to be used. NOT ONE.

I challenged you, Chris and Conor a while back to find me ONE RCT showing HCQ+ to be ineffective that gave the drug combo to vulnerable-age patients within 5 days of symptom onset. None of you could find one because NONE EXIST.

Now, let me ask you this: There were more than a few who treated vulnerable-aged Covid patients with HCQ+, such as Dr. Fareed and Dr. Zelenko among the most prominent. Also locally to where I live, Dr. Stephen Herman.

Let's stick to Dr. Fareed, whose credentials are impeccable. He kept meticulous observational records and found almost none of his vulnerable-aged patients given HCQ+ within 5 days of symptom onset were dying or even going to the hospital...far, far fewer than the known percentages. How do you explain that?

Don't bother answering because I know you can't...and you wouldn't, anyway.


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It's not the government's job to run the RCTs for approval applicants...the HCQ+ promotors

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:01 am on Jul 15, 2025
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failed to do their job and present data that fit their claims...that's what Pfizer did with Paxlovid...so well that trials were halted early. You're barking up the wrong tree...go yell at Dr. Risch, or whoever want's to push HCQ+ and tell them to Put Up or Shut Up, when it comes to RCTs.

Do you understand how all this works?

BTW, have you noticed that ever larger numbers of Americans are dissing Trump's Immigration Policy?...


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If only Obama who had contol of both house and senate had followed through on his day 1 promise.

Author: Protagonist (1107 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 10:26 am on Jul 14, 2025
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Obama put all his Political Capital and time into getting the Affordable Care Act passed while he

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:08 am on Jul 14, 2025
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had the House and Senate...to the enduring thanks of Americans even in Red states...then along came Mitch McConnell's vow to make Obama a "One Term President"...didn't work, but here's an AI summary of Mitch's efforts..which included filibustering virtually every piece of legislation that Obama put forward...including Immigration/Border Security Reform.

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AI Overview

Then-Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) made a statement in 2010 that his top political priority was to prevent President Barack Obama's re-election.

While McConnell did not succeed in making Obama a one-term president, he was successful in slowing the Obama administration's legislative agenda, particularly after the Republican Party regained control of the House of Representatives in 2010 and the Senate in 2014.

Reports indicate that McConnell and the Republicans used a variety of tactics to block Obama's agenda and appointments, including:
Blocking votes on Supreme Court nominees such as Merrick Garland.
Employing filibusters on numerous pieces of legislation.
Attaching riders to spending bills to limit Obama's policies, especially on areas like the environment, healthcare, and regulations from the Environmental Protection Agency.
Using budget tactics to circumvent Democratic filibusters.

The Republican strategy of obstructionism during the Obama years is viewed by some as having contributed to a dysfunctional and paralyzed Senate, and may have helped the Republican Party gain control of the government, according to a Politico Magazine article published in December 2016.
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Now you know why Obama was unable to pass Immigration Reform...btw, I'll remind you if you somehow forget ;-)


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Most Americans have always supported legal immigration policies... but not an open border.

Author: Curly1918 (16490 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:45 am on Jul 14, 2025
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The latter leads to chaos.

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oops! not fair!

Author: und67 (6805 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:12 am on Jul 14, 2025
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you threw in the word "legal" which is anathema to the liberal agenda.

yes, we already have well-defined immigration laws, which have worked for hundreds of years and are favored by people of good judgement and common sense.

the biden administration broke every one of those laws, lied to and endangered our citizens, then screams "due process" for all but the people that due process is supposed to protect.

heinous abuse and reckless endangerment.


msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
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Maybe you can explain why Trump called on Congress to "Finally" fix our border problems...failed...

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:40 am on Jul 14, 2025
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and then killed Biden's bipartisan Bill that was even better than his. Remember, only Congress can provide the funding for lasting changes.

Link: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-calls-congress-secure-borders-protect-american-people/

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You're trying to describe the sunset to a blind man.

Author: iairishcheeks (27329 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:03 am on Jul 14, 2025
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Trump called on Congress in 2019 to finally fix our border problems, but failed…then Biden in 2024

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:02 am on Jul 14, 2025
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succeeded in getting the Senate to pass an even better Bill than what DJT asked for…only to have him kill it because it was so good.

“Open Borders” = Donald Trump


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We never ever needed any bill to manage immigration flows... just the will to do so.

Author: Curly1918 (16490 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:12 am on Jul 14, 2025
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Clinton and Obama did just fine. It was the unknown actors in the Biden administration who deliberately blinded themselves to a torrent of illegal immigration.

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Not true...otherwise Trump would have "Just Done It" in 2019. Only Congress can provide the funding

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:35 am on Jul 14, 2025
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needed to implement and sustain the enduring changes needed. Do you see any High Speed Fentanyl Scanners being installed to deal with the tens of thousands of cars and trucks coming into the country every day at our border checkpoints (10,000/day just at Laredo, Texas)...have you seen any more judges funded that can hear immigration cases so that the wait time for "Documentation, or Deportation" is reduced from 6+ years to 6 months, or less?...seen those 1,500 more CBP agents at our Southern Border yet?...

The list goes on. Trump only wants chaos to feed the fear, anger and hatred of non-thinking supporters...but the American Public is catching on to the stupidity of his policies and actions...read what the Gallup poll found.


Link: https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-calls-congress-secure-borders-protect-american-people/

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The flow of illegals is now staunched... without any new Congressional funding.

Author: Curly1918 (16490 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:29 am on Jul 14, 2025
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And no improvement in processing all those "Very Nice" immigrants working in the Agriculture and

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:55 pm on Jul 14, 2025
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Hospitality Industries that DJT now appreciates (but not in a Blue state, like California)...nor do we have any High Speed Fentanyl scanners at any of our border checkpoints, etc, etc....

Your argument about "Open Borders" is bankrupt...just like so many of Trump's business ventures.

BTW, did you read Trump's own White House Announcement calling for Congress to "FINALLY Secure the Border and Create the Lawful and Safe Immigration System Americans, and those wanting to become Americans, Deserve."?...Why did DJT issue that memorandum...and not just "Do It"? (Rhetorical Question)


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They really, really wanted to codify the flow that Biden's administration was willfully allowing.

Author: jakers (13921 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:40 am on Jul 14, 2025
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One of the answers to how you lost is highlighted in that article.

Author: iairishcheeks (27329 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:46 am on Jul 14, 2025
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Yet you're still confused.

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You see a “Pony” buried in all of that? ;-)…Really?

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:14 am on Jul 14, 2025
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