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The Trump Titanic is taking on water.

Author: iairishcheeks (27356 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:19 am on Jul 16, 2025
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Remember, Barr was going to get to the bottom of it.

Everyone should want full transparency.


Link: https://share.google/lMPr2J6m7Th02h3VB

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Only because his base is consumed by a conspiracy theory in which they are the victims.

Author: conorlarkin (21073 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:28 am on Jul 16, 2025
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Trump has been masterful in manufacturing and nurturing conspiracy theories— Obama was born in Kenya; the 2020 election was stolen, Dr Fauci was to blame for COVID, — all designed to make hayseeds believe they were being played by some Deep State shadow elitist group out to screw them.

The attached article is spot on.

Some excerpts:

Having nurtured conspiracy theories for his entire political career, Trump suddenly seems in danger of being consumed by one. In many ways it’s delicious to watch, but there’s also reason for anxiety, because for some in Trump’s movement, this setback is simply proof that they’re up against a conspiracy more powerful than they ever imagined. “What we just learned is that dealing with the Epstein Operation is above the President’s pay grade,” posted Bret Weinstein, an evolutionary biologist and podcaster. An important question, going forward, is who they decide is pulling the strings.

Epstein obsessives are right to be suspicious about the weird turns the case has taken. So much about it feels inexplicable, including the sweetheart plea deal Epstein got in 2008 and the fact that he was apparently able to kill himself despite being one of the most monitored inmates in the country. Even if it turns out that a review of the case doesn’t implicate anyone who hasn’t already been charged, it should be a scandal that Bondi misled the public about the existence of a client list.

But the administration lies all the time; that alone doesn’t explain why this issue has so tested the MAGA coalition. To understand why it’s such a crisis, you need to understand the crucial role that Epstein plays in the mythologies buttressing MAGA. The case is of equal interest to QAnon types, who see in Epstein’s crimes proof of their conviction that networks of elite pedophiles have hijacked America, and of right-wing critics of Israel, who are convinced that Epstein worked for the Mossad, the country’s spy service.

Trumpism has always been premised on the idea that he’s warring against dark, even satanic globalist forces, and within the movement there’s a fierce yearning for the cathartic moment when those forces will be exposed and vanquished. The Epstein files were supposed to show the world, once and for all, the scale of the evil system that Trump’s voters believe he is fighting. “Epstein is a key that picks the lock on so many things,” Steve Bannon said at the Turning Point conference.

The way Trumpists have made this case a cause célèbre can seem bizarre to outsiders. After all, Trump’s friendship with the sex-trafficking financier has been widely documented. Epstein’s best-known victim, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, said she was recruited at Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s private club. And Trump has his own history of alleged creepiness around underage girls; several teenage contestants in one of his beauty pageants accused him of deliberately walking in on them when they were undressed. As Senator Jon Ossoff, Democrat of Georgia, said at a rally this weekend, “Did anyone really think the sexual predator president who used to party with Jeffrey Epstein was going to release the Epstein files?”

But I’ve always seen the fantasy of Trump as a warrior against sex trafficking as a way for his followers to manage their cognitive dissonance about his obvious personal degeneracy. To believe that they are on the side of light while championing a man of such low character, Trump’s acolytes have had to conjure an enemy of vast and titanic evil and invent a version of Trump that never existed.

Among those on the right who believe there’s an Epstein cover-up, few seem to be entertaining the idea that Trump is protecting himself. That, after all, would require a re-evaluation of his integrity and their judgment. But they still take for granted that Epstein was trafficking girls to powerful men and then blackmailing them and that he was killed so he couldn’t talk. Now they have to figure out why Trump won’t give them the information they long for. The most logical explanation, said Tucker Carlson on his podcast last week, is “that intel services are at the very center of this story, U.S. and Israeli, and they’re being protected.”

This notion has become so widespread that Israel’s government tried to address it. “There is no evidence — none — that Epstein was acting on behalf of the State of Israel,” wrote the Israeli minister Amichai Chikli in an open letter addressed to Turning Point’s head, Charlie Kirk. But Chikli couldn’t resist using the case against his more centrist political enemies, saying he wants to understand Epstein’s connection to “former Israeli prime ministers Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert, who both appear in previously published Epstein-related documents.”

This will not, I suspect, put theories about Epstein as a Zionist operative to bed. Without them, Trump’s followers would have to admit that they were duped, that MAGA has never been a Manichaean battle against sex criminals and that Trump glommed onto the Epstein story only to help him win an election.

The entanglement of the Epstein drama with American debates about the Jewish state portends some dark developments. I won’t pretend to know whether Epstein ever worked for the Israelis, though I can’t imagine Trump covering for them at any cost to himself. I’m worried, however, about people blaming Jews for the strange and unresolvable parts of his sordid story. Scroll through X, and you’ll see they already are.

It’s worth recalling the origin of the phrase “cognitive dissonance,” which was coined in the 1950s by Leon Festinger, an author of the book “When Prophecy Fails.” He and his co-authors studied an apocalyptic U.F.O. cult, with an eye to what happened when the spaceship didn’t appear as predicted. Some members, disillusioned, left the group. Most, however, maintained or redoubled their commitment. The problem for Trump is that some of his followers need to choose between their commitment to him and to the narrative that justified his rise.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/14/opinion/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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Explain this, a defense attorney should know a thing about evidence tampering.

Author: iairishcheeks (27356 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:29 am on Jul 16, 2025
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Link: https://futurism.com/epstein-video-metadata

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Indeed. It starts with reviewing original source documents and footage.

Author: conorlarkin (21073 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:12 pm on Jul 16, 2025
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The link includes the DOJ memorandum re the alleged "client list" and the suicide. I could not find the raw prison footage on DOJ website that is referenced in memo.

Feel free to keep running with the murder conspiracy and President Trump/DOJ cover up. I gather they are protecting their deep state/elitist co-conspirators????


Link: https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administration

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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The video was edited to remove 2:53, no explanation has been offered.

Author: iairishcheeks (27356 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:10 pm on Jul 16, 2025
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It does seems like a better strategy would be an explanation rather than flim flam

Author: LanceManion (7977 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 5:52 am on Jul 16, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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What's hilarious is the Dem left crying about transparency when they said nothing under Autopen.

Author: ELP (9623 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 8:53 am on Jul 16, 2025
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Their fake outrage is always a great source of entertainment.

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