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Democrats should shut down Government in SEPT unless GOP agrees to 60 votes for clawing back funds.

Author: conorlarkin (21090 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:00 pm on Jul 18, 2025
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Passing a budget is arguably the #1 function of Congress. It used to be the House Budget committee worked together to do the grinding and number crunching.

Once the budget passed the House, it took 60 Senators to make it law.

But, under the new game, the GOP has clawed back funding without 60 votes. And we are not even talking about what DOGE already did -- without any votes.

Shutting down the Government is a horrible remedy. But otherwise, the GOP will let Trump turn out Government into an autocracy.

Schumer needs to be replaced if he lacks the stones.


Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-vote-claw-back-9-billion-funding-npr-pbs-foreign-aid-rcna219088

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

Replies to: Democrats should shut down Government in SEPT unless GOP agrees to 60 votes for clawing back funds.


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That would be awesome. Please help Trump identify non-essential employees.

Author: NedoftheHill (44752 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:36 pm on Jul 18, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Who set the rules for "the new game" again? Oh yes, the Dems with their "Nuclear Option".

Author: BaronVonZemo (60215 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:27 pm on Jul 18, 2025
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We told you you'd live to rue the day....start "rueing".

What's further great about this reckoning for your past behavior is that you will get to find out how politically popular it is for a party to shut down the govt.
Dems will run & hide because they won't want to just hand the midterms to the GOP and give Trump a cushion with full power.


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Conor, the Dems need to stop being "The Party of No" so R's don't need to use your nuclear

Author: BaronVonZemo (60215 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:56 pm on Jul 18, 2025
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option.

If you can believe it, that was the exact argument Dems gave for justifying changing the senate rules with their "Nuclear Option" of simple majority back in 2013.
In truth, Barack Hussein Obama was too intolerant too impatient and self important to follow the decorum of over a century in the senate of the 60 vote threshold.

Your rules now.

Enjoy.

And....from 2013, I told you so......yet again.


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Mitch McConnell's vow to make Obama a "One Term President" by blocking any legislation started this.

Author: TyroneIrish (20720 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:44 pm on Jul 18, 2025
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AI Overview

Mitch McConnell, as Senate Minority Leader during the Obama administration, was known for blocking the President's legislative agenda, according to the U.S. Senator Michael Bennet (.gov) website. His strategies forced Senate Democrats to consider and eventually employ the "nuclear option" in 2013.

Here's a breakdown of the events:

Obstruction and increased filibustering: Senate Republicans, led by McConnell, frequently used filibusters to block President Obama's legislative initiatives and judicial and executive branch nominees. This strategy was particularly evident in the unprecedented obstruction of Judge Merrick Garland's nomination to the Supreme Court.

Democrats utilize the nuclear option for nominations (2013): Faced with Republican obstruction on numerous nominations, then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (Democrat) led the effort to invoke the "nuclear option." This procedural move, executed on November 21, 2013, effectively lowered the threshold for ending debate (cloture) on most presidential nominations (excluding Supreme Court nominations) from 60 votes to a simple majority of 51 votes.

Republicans expand the nuclear option for Supreme Court nominations (2017): When Republicans gained control of the Senate, and with Democrats opposing President Trump's nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court, McConnell deployed the nuclear option again in April 2017. This extended the simple-majority rule to include Supreme Court nominations, eliminating the 60-vote requirement for them as well.

McConnell's justification: McConnell defended the move by arguing that Democrats' increased use of filibusters had created gridlock and that the rules change was necessary to allow the Senate to fulfill its constitutional duty of advising and consenting on presidential appointments, according to NPR.

The use of the nuclear option has been a significant point of contention in American politics. It has been praised by some as a necessary tool to overcome legislative obstruction and criticized by others for eroding the traditions of the Senate and increasing partisanship.
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