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If you commit yourself to following and supporting Trump, you commit yourself to Lying and Deceit,

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:59 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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Hopefully, this Epstein Affair is the "Bridge Too Far" that finally rips the blinders off MAGA eyes.

Replies to: If you commit yourself to following and supporting Trump, you commit yourself to Lying and Deceit,


Thread Level: 2

How bad must the alternative have been?

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 7:45 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Exactly.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:12 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Really?

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 11:50 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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No one is anywhere near as bad as Trump...I doubt that anyone here believes he's a "Good Person"...

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:53 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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in point of fact, he's a VERY BAD person...starting from there, it's impossible to not acknowledge the constant, never ending Lies, and Deceits for which I've offered just a few...albeit HUGELY impactful. Then there are his Criminal Acts...and pending indictments by Grand Juries of his peers. On top of that, he openly questions whether he needs to abide by the Constitution, and actively seeks...and gets...assistance from our worst enemy. In short, Trump has NO redeeming "Qualities"...therefore, there are innumerable BETTER alternatives in both parties. The only mystery is why people still support him. If you still do, then share why...I for one, will be happy to provide substantive responses.

Ball is in your court...


Thread Level: 4

It's hard to attack Trump on character when the guy who preceded him was comatose and you said nada

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 7:35 am on Jul 21, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Apparently, it was YOU who was "Comatose" during the Biden administration ;-)...

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:11 am on Jul 21, 2025
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...go to a dementia treatment center and find someone who can deliver JB's 2024 SOTU Speech...or his 2023 Speech with Mitch McConnell, et al at the beginning of the Kentucky/Ohio Bridge Project.




Thread Level: 2

Obviously not a concern for you since you supported Biden.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:49 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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As for me, I don't support a man. I support policies. Your approach of supporting a man is weird and cultlike.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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How does one ignore Trump's lying and deceit?...especially when it impacts this country so deeply...

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:06 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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> Trump speaks of a "Russia Hoax"...yet a GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee found hundreds of interactions between him and his aides with Russians leading up to the 2016 election...most notably, his Campaign Manager, Paul Manafort, handing Internal Polling Data to a Russian Operative, Konstantin Kilimnik...or Donald Trump Jr. denying meeting in Trump Tower with Russian attorney, Natalia Veselnitskaya, for the express purpose of getting "dirt" from Russia on Hillary Clinton. Working with our worst enemy to influence the election for President, then lying and deceiving the American public.

> Trump claims the 2020 election was stolen, yet even his own Campaign Manager, Attorney General, White House Counsel, 60+ Judges...and 11,780 votes in Georgia proved he lost...Lies and Deceit that lead duped Americans to later attack our Capitol for Trump's purpose of overthrowing a legally elected government.

Now we have Trump denying he ever knew of Jeffrey Epstein's pedophilia, much less participated in it in spite of 15 years of obvious close friendship in pursuing beautiful women...many of which were on the "Younger Side"...

Never mind the thousands of other Lies and Deceits, like 'Obama's Birth Certificate'...'Mexico Paying for the Border Wall'...'COVID-19 being no worse than the Flu'...All lies and deceits that harm the citizens of this country...what "Policy" of yours justifies such a man holding the most important office in America, if not the world?


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You obviously know the answer to that, since you do it for the Biden administration.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:43 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You’re drowning in a torrent of facts and truths and you think painting Biden with trump’s criminal

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:21 am on Jul 20, 2025
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activity and history is a lifeboat?

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 5

Compare and contrast Biden vs. Trump on any measure you choose...challenge me (us)...that's how we

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:01 am on Jul 20, 2025
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get to the truth.

Thread Level: 3

Your defense for supporting a lying, cheating criminal is we support someone who hasn’t those flaws.

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:31 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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Genius.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 4

Cult member posts again.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:44 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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True!

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 4:29 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Lying and deceit to the entire country was the basis of the 4 years J Biden was president

Author: Frankx (5579 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 3:56 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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Why not give it a try. You clugs have tried everything else. LOL

Author: ELP (9884 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 3:38 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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And cruelty -- which a good chunk of his voters are now rejecting.

Author: conorlarkin (21339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:07 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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[Alondra says her dad wept when she was first able to visit him in detention and told him that community members had contributed $25,000 to his GoFundMe — and on a later visit, she told him, “If you were crying at 25K, you’re really going to be crying now, Dad.”

Sure enough, he cried again.

Judging from what unfolded here in Yamhill County, voters may have wanted a tightening of the border and the deportation of criminals — but not the arrest of a longtime neighbor. They wanted Trump to pursue gangsters, not destroy small businesses. Many people here sought some middle ground on immigration and felt they didn’t get it from Biden, but now they find they’re not getting it from Trump, either.

Even for Americans who welcomed more deportations, there’s something chilling about the militarization of the crackdown and the echoes of police state practices: plainclothes officers wearing masks, refusing to give their names, grabbing people off the streets and hustling them into unmarked vehicles. Something like that happened to me once in China — but State Security there treated me far better than ICE treats immigrants here.

Consider also the financial cost of all this. ICE says that “the average cost to arrest, detain and remove an illegal alien is $17,121.” Thus the administration’s goal of one million deportations would cost $17 billion — and presumably be repeated annually. For comparison, that’s more than all 50 states spend together on pre-K.

Trump has more than tripled the annual ICE budget to $28 billion, making it the most expensive law enforcement agency in the federal government. Indeed, that’s more than the current annual budgets for the F.B.I., the Bureau of Prisons, the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives put together. Trump is also using officials from other law enforcement agencies to build a deportation army, meaning that fewer law enforcement officers are left to deal with homegrown criminals.]


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/19/opinion/immigrants-ice-deportation.html

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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 3

Trump's got to have his own "Brown Shirts"...what self-respecting Autocrat wouldn't?...and I do mean

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:15 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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SELF-Respecting.

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Brown shirts as in antifa and BLM? Remember the fun they gave us a few summers ago?

Author: ELP (9884 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 4:02 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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Always running from uncomfortable truths…Trump has created a police force that is cruelly

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:43 pm on Jul 19, 2025
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terrorizing American citizens. This is Autocracy in action…and you turn your back to it.

Your attempted “Whattabout” bears no resemblance to state sponsored terror.


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What is the name of this police force.

Author: PaND (2809 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 11:02 am on Jul 20, 2025
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That Trump supposedly created.

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DSPTF

Author: Frankx (5579 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 12:43 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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It appears you're programmed to run from your own uncomfortable truths.

Author: ELP (9884 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 8:26 am on Jul 20, 2025
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Like I said, whatever you're trying to do here isn't working. You and your fellow travelers need to do an autopsy on what is going on in your party's ranks.

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Take a look at what Trump's BBB has given to "ICE" (see link)...the stated goal is 7K arrests/day...

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:00 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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for the rest of Trump's term in office...that amounts to 2.5M/yr...do you really think there are that many criminal immigrants in this country?...btw, Trump thinks there are many 'Good and Hard Working Undocumented Immigrants In (red state) Agriculture and Hospitality Industries, that shouldn't be deported'...apparently, based on recent ICE raids, they're all in Blue States and Large (Blue State) cities....Millions of criminals there....Really?

Here's an excerpt from the linked article to give you a sense of how much he's spending of your tax dollars on this domestic terrorism,...
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So, total, there's more than $160 billion that are going to immigration enforcement and the deportation operation. So when you break it down, that means $46.5 billion to building the rest of the border wall, $45 billion to immigration detention centers, nearly $30 billion to hiring and training ICE staff, and $3.3 billion to immigration court judges and attorneys.

Now, some of those pots of money can be moved around. If they don't want to spend that much on the border wall, they don't have to. They can transfer it to other parts of ICE. But ICE plans to hire an additional 10,000 new agents to the tens of thousands they already have. And also they want to have at least 80,000 new detention beds.

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