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Dem Party endorses Muslim Democrat Socialist for mayor on Minneapolis (Mamdani is not a fluke).

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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This is where the Democrat Party now stands. It's "Powers That Be" are clear that they want communism.

Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/minnesota-democratic-party-endorses-omar-fateh-minneapolis-mayor

Replies to: Dem Party endorses Muslim Democrat Socialist for mayor on Minneapolis (Mamdani is not a fluke).


Thread Level: 2

Doc Maga, you're just another bigot who worships an obvious liar & traitor.

Author: ND521 (9568 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 9:39 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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You bring so much substance to the board. 🙄

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:19 am on Jul 21, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Baron conveniently forgets our Constitution's 1st Amendment...when it pleases him...

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:16 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." Muslims...like Jews, Hindus, Protestants and Catholics, etc.. have every right to practice their religions and not be discriminated against. They can even hold elective office at all levels of government. In essence, you can't be a Hypocrite and have "Rules" for others, but not yourself.

As for Socialism, I've previously posted a list of elected Socialist Mayors, who could, if they choose, run for higher office. Also, Socialism is not Communism...as evidenced by the social governance of many countries with Private Businesses.


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Why do you lie? He didn't say Dems can't do it. He used 1st Am to call attention to it.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:12 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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You guys want a Muslim socialist/communist. Your reaction indicates you are embarrassed by that, as you should be. But he has a right to call attention to where your party wants to take us.

As for socialism, please feel free to defend your party's support for it. That also calls attention to it.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Even our U.S. Medical Profession is concerned about Baron...and you...spreading "Islamophobia"...

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:42 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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...as an attorney, you should uphold the 1st Amendment's words and caution against such behavior...why won't you?

Link: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767883

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Wow, you’re a pos ty

Author: Frankx (5579 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 8:26 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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You should uphold his 1st Amendment right, and respond with substance, not fabrications.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:55 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I did respond with substance...quoted the 1st Amendment wrt Religious Freedom...no need for Baron to

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:45 am on Jul 21, 2025
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even mention the faith of that Minneapolis mayor...unless he was expressing his concern for someone else's religion. I'm guessing that you didn't see that and reflexively thought of the "Free Speech" portion of the 1st Amendment, and fabricated a different issue to distract...just curious.

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BTW, while you're preparing to justify your post...take a look at the following AI search on Muslims

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:37 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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AI Overview

Several individuals of Muslim faith have been recognized with peace awards for their contributions to peace and human rights. These include Malala Yousafzai, who received the Nobel Peace Prize for her advocacy for girls' education, and Shirin Ebadi, the first Muslim woman to receive the Nobel Peace Prize for her work in human rights.

Additionally, individuals like Mohamed Magid, Atiya Aftab, and Sheryl Olitzky have been recognized for their interfaith work and efforts to promote peace and understanding.

Recipients of Peace Awards:
Malala Yousafzai:
Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2014 for her fight against the suppression of children and young people and for the right of all children to education.
Shirin Ebadi:
Received the Nobel Peace Prize in 2003 for her pioneering efforts for democracy and human rights, particularly for women, children, and refugees.
Mohamed Magid:
Received the El-Hibri Peace Education Prize in 2017 for his work in interfaith collaboration and social justice.
Atiya Aftab and Sheryl Olitzky:
Awarded a peace prize for their work in a Muslim-Jewish sisterhood.
Abdus Sattar Edhi:
Received the Ahmadiyya Muslim Peace Prize in 2010 for his outstanding work in social welfare and humanitarian relief.
Oheneba Boachie-Adjei:
Received the Ahmadiyya Muslim Peace Prize in 2012 for his medical work promoting peace and providing hope to people in the developing world.
Nicolò Govoni:
Received the AMDA Muslim Peace Prize for his work in ensuring free education and protection for vulnerable children.
https://www.icvgroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Shirin-Ebadi-ICV-1-1.jpg
These individuals, among others, demonstrate the diverse ways in which Muslims contribute to peace and human rights globally.

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In other words...Open Your Eyes to Reality...and admit to your Biases.


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Yeah Ned you need to prep your response to Ty’s narcissistic idiocy. Good lord man

Author: Frankx (5579 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 5:37 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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Ha! That did make me laugh. 😀

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:56 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Glad you chimed in, Ned...perhaps you can speak for Baron as well...why is being a "Muslim"...

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:27 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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"Democrat"..."Socialist" a cause for notice...or dare I say..."Alarm", from the tone of both your posts?

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I don't speak for anyone else. Occassionally your posts are so preposterous that I comment.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:53 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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So, no denial that you are biased against Muslims...with no nod of the head toward those who care

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:51 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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for others...sometimes better than those of other faiths...like Christianity/Catholicism. That's not what the authors of our Constitution had in mind.

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Not Baron, here’s my issue…

Author: Domer From Hell (16879 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:58 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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with any Muslim in power…

While the vast majority of Muslims are against extremism, the same majority practices and supports Sharia law. Anti-gay, women are brutalized, raped, and treated like dogs, in some Muslim countries, children are wed and raped at a very young age, the majority are stuck in the 3rd century. A lot of Muslim immigrants fail to assimilate and they bring their barbaric ways to our country.

Now, I’m not against Muslims coming to our country, but they damn well need to act like Americans once they earn their citizenship.

I have a close friend who happens to be Persian. My view of Islam mirrors his. He calls himself a recovering Muslim and he no longer practices the religion.


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We're all born bald baby!
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Unfortunately, there are very few in this country who have had any personal contact with people who

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:23 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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follow the Muslim faith...nor have they read any objective articles or books about Islam and so they are easily influenced against literally anyone who is Muslim. As with you, I have a friend who is Muslim, from Iran...he has a PhD in Chemistry and upon retirement he joined the American Red Cross...flying to wherever in the U.S. there is a disaster to help organize and coordinate aid to thousands of people...many of which are probably extremely biased against Muslims. This needs to stop...judge people on what they actually DO...not on how they pray to the God of all of us.

Another experience my wife and I had was in working with Catholic Charities (managed by a Protestant) to organize people within our own Catholic parish to help an Afghan Muslim family get settled in a Bay Area apartment...upon completion we were treated by that family to a dinner that certainly had to impact their disposable income...and months later we were invited to their daughter's Muslim wedding (got Henna 'decorations on our hands ;-)) and we thoroughly enjoyed our experience...an example of our "Shared Humanity"


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You have still not addressed your lie down below.

Author: PaND (2809 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 9:45 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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Another one of many I have caught you in.

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You haven't proven there was a lie.

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:36 am on Jul 21, 2025
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Or that have lived in the Middle East to see how women and children are really treated.

Author: Frankx (5579 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 8:06 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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While many Muslim women are abused in the ME, here in the USA a political party wants to force women

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:21 am on Jul 21, 2025
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...who have been raped or coerced into pregnancies they never wanted...to carry them to term, risking harm to their physical and mental health...possibly even death. Most people here consider that misogynistic and abusive. We've got some soul searching to do as well.

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Yep. I have quite a few buddies who served in Afghanistan…

Author: Domer From Hell (16879 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:11 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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and Iraq. A lot of them said the treatment of women and children was atrocious. A buddy of mine also caught some Afghan farmers raping a goat…I shit you not! They are savages

We're all born bald baby!
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Please address Sharia, the treatment of women, children, gays,…

Author: Domer From Hell (16879 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:41 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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And non-believers. Their record ain’t pretty.

Having said that, there are Muslim moderates that have assimilated into society. My Persian friend is one of them.


We're all born bald baby!
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Wait for it

Author: Frankx (5579 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 5:27 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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You appear to be confused - Communism or socialism or authoritarian Sharia? Which is it?

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 3:01 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Can you explain the differences for us, Jim?

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:01 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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I wonder if he knows that Nazi stands for "National Socialist German Workers Party"? Both communists

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:09 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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and Nazi's call themselves "socialists".

Thread Level: 5

I understand the aim for socialism completely, but Dunbar's number prevents it practically.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:31 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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I also understand the laissez-faire capitalist approach which also succumbs to Dunbar's number at scale.

We live in a hybrid model and it's arguably the best one devised by flawed humans so far. The genius is it's inherent ability to adapt. But it can also definitely be a lot better and I'm definitely a progressive on improving the model.

It's interesting the DSA, which I individually support the concepts of as much as libertarianism, tend to get wrapped up in supporting things like Hamas.

Right idea, wrong implementation (or candidate) is a recurring theme.


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Google AI…seems reasonable to say that Nazis weren’t socialists….

Author: Domer From Hell (16879 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:26 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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The question of whether the Nazis were socialists is complex and has been a subject of debate.
Arguments for the "Nazis were socialists" perspective
Party name: The Nazi party's official name was the "National Socialist German Workers' Party" (NSDAP).
Anti-Capitalist Rhetoric: Nazi propaganda often employed strong anti-capitalist rhetoric, according to the Foundation for Economic Education.
Control over the Economy: The Nazi government asserted significant control over the economy, including industries and farms, through regulations, quotas, and the reorganization of industries, according to the Mises Institute.
Repression of Labor Unions: The Nazis suppressed independent labor unions and controlled workers' lives, wages, and employment, according to The Holocaust Explained.
Central Planning: The Nazis implemented economic planning, such as the Four-Year Plan, aimed at achieving specific goals like rearmament and autarky.
Arguments against the "Nazis were socialists" perspective
Private Property and Entrepreneurship: The Nazis largely preserved private property and entrepreneurship, albeit under strict state control.
Distinction from Marxism: The Nazis distinguished themselves from Marxist socialists in their views on class struggle and their support for private property with caveats.
Fascism as a Far-Right Ideology: Many scholars classify Nazism as a fascist movement, which is generally considered a far-right ideology that opposes socialist principles.
Focus on Racial Hierarchy: The core of Nazi ideology was based on racial hierarchy and nationalism rather than class struggle or economic equality, says The Washington Post.
Reprivatization: The Nazi regime engaged in the reprivatization of some state-owned enterprises, which is generally contrary to socialist principles.
Hostility to Democratic Socialism: Hitler and the Nazis were vehemently opposed to democracy and democratic socialism.
Nuance and complexity
Nationalism vs. Internationalism: Traditional socialism often has an internationalist focus on worker solidarity across borders, while Nazism emphasized a fierce nationalism and racial supremacy.
State control vs. State ownership: While the Nazis implemented significant state control, they did not necessarily advocate for total state ownership of the means of production, which is a key tenet of some forms of socialism.
Economic Opportunism: The Nazis adopted economic policies that served their political and military objectives, suggesting a degree of opportunism rather than strict adherence to a particular economic ideology.
In conclusion, it's not accurate to simply label the Nazis as socialists in the traditional sense, as their ideology and policies diverged significantly from core socialist tenets, especially in their racism, nationalism, and views on private property. However, their extensive state control over the economy and rejection of traditional capitalism introduce a degree of complexity to the discussion.


We're all born bald baby!
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"Democrat Socialists" are communists. It's just a more politically palatable name.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:58 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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For whatever reason, Baron revels in not telling the truth...

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:30 pm on Jul 20, 2025
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AI Overview

No, democratic socialist countries like those in Scandinavia are not communist. While they have robust welfare states and emphasize social equality, their economies are fundamentally capitalist, with free markets playing a key role in wealth generation. These countries are more accurately described as social democracies, which blend capitalist economies with extensive social safety nets.

Here's why:
Capitalist Economies:
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Scandinavian countries have free-market economies with private ownership of businesses and industries.
Social Welfare Systems:
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They have strong social safety nets, including universal healthcare, education, and generous social security benefits, funded through high taxes.
Not Command Economies:
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Unlike communist states, they do not have centrally planned economies where the government controls all means of production.
Democracy:
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These countries are democratic, with free and fair elections, unlike communist regimes which are typically authoritarian.
In short, Scandinavian countries are capitalist democracies with strong social programs, not communist states.

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